Kevin Falcon moves to suspend BC United’s campaign, will work with BC Conservatives

[CdnFox]

Kevin Falcon moves to suspend BC United’s campaign, will work with BC Conservatives | Globalnews.ca

Hooooleeeyyy crap. 

Well that might just be the end of the NDP's time in power. Coulnd't happen soon enough. 

But the story of the conservatives meteoric rise is pretty astounding.  Eby has made some mistakes that have made him unpopular so a little backlash is to be expected but to watch United go down in flames that hard so fast is unbelievable. 

SHould be an interesting election  

[herbie]

Spineless wimp. Gives in to the man who betrayed him without consent of his own Party or its constituents.
Did Rustad make him by his own Vaseline?

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Spineless wimp. Gives in to the man who betrayed him without consent of his own Party or its constituents.
Did Rustad make him by his own Vaseline?

 

Biden = majestic hero for stepping aside for good of the country!

Falcon= spineless lube boy  

It was obvious they weren't going to  win and eby is taking the province down the wrong path hard. 

So he did the right thing. It was inevitable, but honestly i thought it would happen after the election. 

The ndp is not out of the fight yet, but i think it's going to be either a weak ndp minority or a Conservative win. 

[herbie]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So he did the right thing

Yep we know you'll concede your own principles if it mean "Winning" just like Falcon did. West coast surrender monkey.
Screwed every centrist free enterprise voter in BC in his own concept of 'owing the libs'.

The right thing would've been to run the election and hope that between United & Cons they could pull what the NDP/Greens did and take power.

THEN enter merger talks at the Party level.

Once Party leader now low man on the totem pole.

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, herbie said:

Yep we know you'll concede your own principles if it mean "Winning" just like Falcon did. West coast surrender monkey.

Loving those salty tears   Didn't notice you getting this upset when the dems did the same thing strangely  

 

IT's not about wining, in fact this is literally them conceding the loss.  They won't win, they're out of the race. 

But the current ndp is a complete disaster and they need to be defeated and thrown from power, they're a freaking menace.  I had no love for horgan and thought  he was a slime ball but at least he kept things moderally under control.  I had great respect for harcourt and his time in office even tho i disagreed with many of his policies.  

But eby is horrific and i will tolerate the relatively minor injustice of conceding defeat and leaving the stage that falcon did to see the conservatives have a fair chance at taking eby out of office. 

They'll still have to win an election.  They'll still have to have a madate. The parties aren't merging.  So at the end of the day what's the "sell out " here? He's conceding he can't win.  And he's right. So he's clearing the field for someone who has a chance. 

 

There's no 'abandoning of principles here. A party is conceding defeat and leaving the field.  It's not like when the ndp AFTER the election chose to prop up a corrupt gov't without a mandate to do so.  Thats your side

 

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Screwed every centrist free enterprise voter in BC in his own concept of 'owing the libs'.

The ndp are not the libs. And didn't screw a single person. 

 

Sorry kiddo - i know you're angry because now your party might lose but thats politics.  They can still make their case to the public. 

[herbie]

Spoken like a true dupe that can't tell the difference between a Liberal, Conservative or NDP, let alone conservativism and the populist extremism you think it should be.
KIDDO
Your infantile perception of politics and awareness of the wishes of fellow Canadians is well reflected on this forum among your fellow either or political deviants.
While you were waddling in diapers, I worked on the campaign to rid BC of the corrupt and incestuous Social Cretins and later twice was on the local constituency and campaign for our local BC Liberal candidate. Who won in a landslide.
I also live in Rustad's riding and watched him slide into his current dementia of climate denial, antivax BS from the local redneck Churchies in his home base in Jesusland, adopt a reversed position on Native matters in a riding that's at least 40% First Nations and bag lick almost every divisive social issue that politics can't solve as he panders to sheer populism vs actual policy issues.
KIDDO
He's been the MLA for 12+ years and his entire riding has faded into a mere shadow of what it was in the 1990s both economically and socially. Take a drive down Hwy 16  West and see the shuttered shops, where the plants, stores and mills used to be and tell me that's the guy who's gonna fix things for all BC.

Damn rights I'll vote NDP come October, then I may well agitate to reform an actual middle of the road Liberal party out of genuine liberals and other Blue Democrats, even invite Christie Clark to help. Simply because 3 terms of anybody is enough.

Edited August 30, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Spoken like a true dupe that can't tell the difference between a Liberal, Conservative or NDP, let alone conservativism and the populist extremism you think it should be.

Oh noeees!!!! Butthurt woke leftie is Butthurt!!!!!!   

Kid you have zero respect from anybody sane on this board and have proven a billion times over you know nothing of politics and what little you might know you'd lie about. 

Your emotional melt down aside,  You'll likely be represnted by rustad again and quite possibly the conservatives provincially. And if it doesnt happen this time it'll be 10 times more right wing next time. 

That's what happens when you allow your woke ideology and lies to run rampant for so long. People wind up broke and starving and they'll do anything to stop that. 

Nobody is interested in woke politics anymore. And Eby is trying to backpedal as hard as he can and pretend that he's not so radical but it's too late.

Sorry loser. You leftist socialists had your way eventually and federally for 10 years and you have left an absolute unmitigated disaster behind with no benefits to outweigh or offset you're absolutely tragic destruction of the country

So you go bye-bye now. But by all means, Continue to freak out about it. I love to see the salty tears  

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Spoken like a true dupe that can't tell the difference between a Liberal, Conservative or NDP, let alone conservativism and the populist extremism you think it should be.
KIDDO
Your infantile perception of politics and awareness of the wishes of fellow Canadians is well reflected on this forum among your fellow either or political deviants.
While you were waddling in diapers, I worked on the campaign to rid BC of the corrupt and incestuous Social Cretins and later twice was on the local constituency and campaign for our local BC Liberal candidate. Who won in a landslide.
I also live in Rustad's riding and watched him slide into his current dementia of climate denial, antivax BS from the local redneck Churchies in his home base in Jesusland, adopt a reversed position on Native matters in a riding that's at least 40% First Nations and bag lick almost every divisive social issue that politics can't solve as he panders to sheer populism vs actual policy issues.
KIDDO
He's been the MLA for 12+ years and his entire riding has faded into a mere shadow of what it was in the 1990s both economically and socially. Take a drive down Hwy 16  West and see the shuttered shops, where the plants, stores and mills used to be and tell me that's the guy who's gonna fix things for all BC.

Damn rights I'll vote NDP come October, then I may well agitate to reform an actual middle of the road Liberal party out of genuine liberals and other Blue Democrats, even invite Christie Clark to help. Simply because 3 terms of anybody is enough.

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[Aristides]

On 8/29/2024 at 3:16 PM, CdnFox said:

Biden = majestic hero for stepping aside for good of the country!

Falcon= spineless lube boy  

It was obvious they weren't going to  win and eby is taking the province down the wrong path hard. 

So he did the right thing. It was inevitable, but honestly i thought it would happen after the election. 

The ndp is not out of the fight yet, but i think it's going to be either a weak ndp minority or a Conservative win. 

If the Greens get wiped out (which seems likely) there can't be a minority if there are only two parties with seats.

[Aristides]

The stars have aligned for the provincial Conservatives with the Liberal's botched name change, dissatisfaction with Eby and the current popularity of the federal Conservatives. It may end up putting them in government but they will have to move closer to the centre if they want to form multiple governments. That process could be helped with more former Liberals in the party.

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If the Greens get wiped out (which seems likely) there can't be a minority if there are only two parties with seats.

I"m not sure they're going to be wiped out.  I don't expect them to do particularly well or anything  but they may hold their 2 seats, and there's currently 2 indies.  It's a little hard to say from the polls because their votes are weirdly concentrated, it's  like looking at the bloc's polls federally.  The numbers don't really reflect the seat results. 

So a minority is possible. It could potentially be that close.  But i think you're right that we're far more likely to get a clear winner. 

I would have said previously that even if the Conservatives were polling ahead of the ndp that they were still at a disadvantage because the NDP has a  moderately well polished GOTV machine in place whereas the conservatives are still brand new and won't  but i understand that a lot of "United" people are going to jump over and help man the trenches and that could bring a lot of the missing infrastructure and experience to that party. 

I dunno, could be a weird one to call. 

 

[herbie]

The Greens will not get wiped out.
So the retards that think Singh should pull support for JT and let them wreck everything they ever stood for can follow the same pipe dream that the Greens would ever support a climate denying f*ckwad like Rustad.

Yeah the guy who's entire riding spent summer watching for evac alerts and listening to helicopters overhead, and was in charge of forests when winters suddenly didn't get cold enough for the first time since the province was settled to kill the bugs that killed all the trees and caused almost all the jobs to disappear doesn't "believe" climate change is real.
Good choice for a leader if you want to destroy things completely.

Ya remind me of my Scot relatives, drink until you get miserable, drink more and get more miserable, keep going until you broke some furniture, punched out your brother and told your wife she was a cow sent the children off to the bootlegger to get more booze.
Grab your morning copy of the Nazional Post to read more about how shitty and hopeless everything is and how it's (Trudeau's, leftists, Singhs, progressives, Ottawa's fault - pick at least one). Convince yourself over coffee how liars, opportunists and the uneducated will save you.

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, herbie said:

The Greens will not get wiped out.

And thank goodness, we need them out there splitting the vote as always  

 

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So the retards that think Singh should pull support for JT and let them wreck everything they ever stood for can follow the same pipe dream that the Greens would ever support a climate denying f*ckwad like Rustad.

uhhh... no.  No i believe that the idea would be they would potentially support the ndp. Like the last time. Not the conservatives . 

LOLOLOL!!! Holy shit man... how in god's name did you POSSIBLY eff that up!!??  You seriously thought we were talking about the greens supporting the Cons in a minority?!?!? 

Damn dude, every time i think you've reached peak stupid you go and prove me wrong    That was freaking hilarious

Oh  and i guess the first part of your hissy fit there is that the ndp have always stood for a broken economy, corruption and graft, extreme inflation, lower quality of life, union busting and crime? LOL Good to know!  I see they're down in the polls federally too, no wonder if they're supporting all of that      

[herbie]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No i believe that the idea would be they (Greens)would potentially support the ndp.

OMG one brain cell is working!

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

OMG one brain cell is working!

One of yours you mean?  Well.... maybe but it doesn't look like it's working very hard considering you needed me to explain to you that the greens would support the ndp  in a minority   

[herbie]

Ya know BC United would've kept the carbon tax and removed all provincial income tax on the 1st $50,000 income for everyone.

Another party might have kept it and offered to reduce ICBC premiums, rebate it on home heating and keep EV incentives and build more chargers.

But Mr Appeal-to-simpletons merely stole the taxes=bad, carbon tax-worse so we'll throw away that revenue and not reduce services thru Divine Intervention federal Tory policy.

As dumb as his Prairie counterparts.

[SpankyMcFarland]

The good thing about this is that it illustrates the creative destruction in our political system. Parties should come and go as they fail to satisfy the demands of voters. Pity the poor Americans who seem stuck with the same two parties for the foreseeable future. That’s better than one party but it’s not ideal. 

[CdnFox]

On 8/31/2024 at 5:00 PM, herbie said:

Ya know BC United would've kept the carbon tax and removed all provincial income tax on the 1st $50,000 income for everyone.

Another party might have kept it and offered to reduce ICBC premiums, rebate it on home heating and keep EV incentives and build more chargers.

But Mr Appeal-to-simpletons merely stole the taxes=bad, carbon tax-worse so we'll throw away that revenue and not reduce services thru Divine Intervention federal Tory policy.

As dumb as his Prairie counterparts.

Suuuuuureeee, thats why you were going to vote for them right?  Right? You were going to vote for them but now you can't right?

Hypocrite. 

Get rid of the tax, cut spending, get rid of USELESS programs such as the safe supply program which has killed thousands and addicted thousands more,  and work to make the province affordable again 

Edited September 2, 2024 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

 

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The good thing about this is that it illustrates the creative destruction in our political system. Parties should come and go as they fail to satisfy the demands of voters. Pity the poor Americans who seem stuck with the same two parties for the foreseeable future. That’s better than one party but it’s not ideal. 

 

You are not wrong. Parties become stagnant. Of course, in Canada conservatives voters have been more than happy to wipe out their parties when they become corrupt and need to be redone. Even the NDP in many provinces have all but wiped out there party and forced to rebuild.

Liberal voters on the other hand seem to feel that corruption and poor management is a prerequisite  

[herbie]

I'mm baaaacccckkk.... after at run to the Mainland and missing the KoolAid drinking babble of ideologues who'd cut off their own nose because it smelled a 'leftist' walk by.
Left Rustads riding of shuttered businesses and for sale signs, no transit, one 3 car passenger rail per week per direction where the ONE thing accomplished during his tenure to brag about was a new McDonalds.
To gas up in the Fraser Valley for TWENTY EIGHT CENTS A LITRE LESS for the imported refined gasoline.
To see on the news about all the emergency room closures, but not in Johnny Boy's riding because they call them 'diversions' to keep them out of the news, The doors are locked and no doctors inside, but they're not officially 'closures'.
To hear the main employer Canfor is shutting down (500 jobs poof!) in his home town of Hooterville, plus more in its once touted super-mill one town over...
To return through the choking smoke from Quesnel onward as half his riding burns in a new out of control fire just south of there. But climate change is bullshit, right Johnny Boy?

Oh yes, imagine what he can do for a whole province! Don't save the fruit co-op, sell the Okanagan to real estate developers, let Skytrain crumble, fix BC Ferries by selling it to a US company for $1.00, cure homelessness by locking them up, save us all 17c a litre by letting us pay 50c more to the oil barons - but maybe Vancouver will get a Chick-Fil-A out of it all!

 

Edited September 7, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, herbie said:

I'mm baaaacccckkk....

 

Great!  who were you again?   

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Left Rustads riding of shuttered businesses and for sale signs, no transit, one 3 car passenger rail per week per direction where the ONE thing accomplished during his tenure to brag about was a new McDonalds.

Rustad hasn't been in power ....  you're saying the ndp left it that way?  

Well one more reason to vote them out of power i guess. 

 

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To gas up in the Fraser Valley for TWENTY EIGHT CENTS A LITRE LESS for the imported refined gasoline.

Thanks to regional taxes in your area.  We have a more conservative local gov't in the lower mainland  

Rustead wants to reduce gas taxes. One more reason to vote out the ndp. 

 

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To see on the news about all the emergency room closures, 

Yeah, the ndp have left our health care system pretty effed up after 10 years in power.  one more reason to vote them out.  (maybe we shouldn't have fired those 2500 workers during covid?)

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To return through the choking smoke from Quesnel onward as half his riding burns in a new out of control fire just south of there. But climate change is bullshit, right Johnny Boy?

But we've been paying our carbon tax for SIXTEEN YEARS now!!!!!  I guess all that money was pointless and it didn't work.   One more reason to vote the ndp out. 

 

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Oh yes, imagine what he can do for a whole province! Don't save the fruit co-op, sell the Okanagan to real estate developers, let Skytrain crumble, fix BC Ferries by selling it to a US company for $1.00, cure homelessness by locking them up, save us all 17c a litre by letting us pay 50c more to the oil barons - but maybe Vancouver will get a Chick-Fil-A out of it all!

Uhhhhh.. riiiiiggght. those are all in his policy documents i think right?

 

 

it is amazing that you are so stunningly stupid that you do not realize that literally every single thing you said was under NDP control and the fact that it's as bad as you say are all reasons to get rid of the NDP.

Did you not know how government worked? What kind of !diot says things are really terrible we should keep the same people in power? 

Well there you go folks, vote woke go broke. Time for a change in government

[herbie]

You are a complete 1diot, aren't you?
Think if you're a 3 term MLA the collapse of your own riding is the other guy's fault.
Unable to see sarcasm and hyperbole, let alone what's written in front of your eyes through that milk like cloud of perception.

Commenting on BC politics without the slightest knowledge of geography, history, ridings or who represents what just the memory of Daddy beating into you Conservative=good, NDP=bad. Adjust for United, Socred, Liberal or whatever their name that week.

And just like a good Trumpalo, calling the other guy stupid when you're the Forrest Gump in the room. Double down tell us all how NOT paying metro tax means you pay more.
Do go on and tell us how paying 28c to fill an oil company's pocket is so much better than paying 17c to the govt that people get back in some benefit or another. How that's saving you money.
Tell us how those so dim they can't see the problem in the first place are the same ones claiming they don't already see the solution as 'proof' the tax doesn't work.

With your compulsion to instantly reply no matter how m0ronic it makes you look, perhaps you should also be tested for autism while you're at it

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

You are a complete 1diot, aren't you?

ohh noes!!   Enraged commie leftie loser is enraged!!!!    well fair enough - i know how much truth and facts hurts you. 

 

 

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Think if you're a 3 term MLA the collapse of your own riding is the other guy's fault.

Think if you're in opposition it's your fault?  Are you THAT stupid? 

And then you go right off the rails.  I hope you were wearing a bib when you wrote that, the foam and dribble will ruin your shirt  

Hey stupid - if the economic climate isn't to your liking then you've got the NDP to blame. IF stores are shuttering because business isn't interested in investing then thank the ndp. If gas prices are higher than you want the ndp's tax policy is why. 

If We get rid of the ndp, a lot of that goes away. 

All you did was explain why to vote AGAINST the ndp.  And now you realize what you said and you're big mad. 

The ndp is a disease, and its' time for the cure. You literally pointed out why yourself. 

 

[herbie]

Another former BC United MLA has announced she will run against Rustad's BC Conservatives as an Independent.
https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/local-news/coralee-oakes-to-run-as-an-independent-in-prince-george-north-cariboo-9513742

Maybe they can talk Shirley Bond out of retiring and run too.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

Another former BC United MLA has announced she will run against Rustad's BC Conservatives as an Independent.
https://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/local-news/coralee-oakes-to-run-as-an-independent-in-prince-george-north-cariboo-9513742

Maybe they can talk Shirley Bond out of retiring and run too.

A decent number of the united have already put a ton of energy into their ridings and if they weren't selected to run by the conservatives they're obviously going to be reluctant to let all of that work go. If they win is independence then they can always take a look at being absorbed by these conservatives whose candidate would have lost.