Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, User said: LOL, you made a bad argument, I refuted it and now you run away. Yet again, you refuse to answer a direct simple question about vaccines being safe or not. No, it was not. And again... when you assert that sources didn't cover something, showing you that they did is in fact still proving you wrong even if you don't like CNN. You can't engage honestly, all you can do is play this dumb game of dismissing the source. The fact that Congress is asking questions doesn't make your false assertions true... This is basic logic, just like your stupid example with the apples. OK. Two to three pages of replies and trying to reason with you is "running away." As I said before, hopefully when Cuomo is questioned in Congress, we will find out why there are discrepancies between what was reported from NYC in the media and what really happened. My reasoning is that there must be a reason why they're questioning what happened there. Your reasoning is that everyone is id1ots except you and CNN. Have a wonderful day. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Goddess said: OK. Two to three pages of replies and trying to reason with you is "running away." You repeatedly refuse to answer simple, direct questions. 1 hour ago, Goddess said: As I said before, hopefully when Cuomo is questioned in Congress, we will find out why there are discrepancies between what was reported from NYC in the media and what really happened. What do you think really happened? You have offered no alternative to consider here, you only make false assertions. 1 hour ago, Goddess said: Your reasoning is that everyone is id1ots except you and CNN. This was never my reasoning. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 my last point on this is that the amount of information on any given health topic is nearly infinite. I had shingles during summer 2020 and when I started looking around for information/remedies.. the amount of information was overwhelming. A lot of bizarre views on the topic. One video said that if I drank lemon juice.. my shingles would go away in days. Did not happen. And when you (gasp!) state that you do not know something.. the onslaught comes. BTW.. Shingles was 100 times worse than covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 27 minutes ago, User said: You repeatedly refuse to answer simple, direct questions. They are not simple questions. The answers are not simple and if you were truly interested in finding out the level of corruption in Pharma, I provided you with ample information to look for yourself. Honestly, if you don't already know it is heavily corrupted just from what you see on MSM, I find that very bizarre. The problem is - you are not interested in finding that out. You want to defend Pharma from accusations of corruption, why I don't know. You want specific vax I think are dangerous and I've repeatedly said I believe they should ALL be reevaluated by independent labs and scientists. I'm sorry that's not an acceptable answer for you. 32 minutes ago, User said: What do you think really happened? You have offered no alternative to consider here, I believe I was clear on what I think happened. Because you argued against each point I made and provided CNN links to back yourself up. Maybe go back and read again? 33 minutes ago, User said: This was never my reasoning. Uh huh. 🙄 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 On 9/5/2024 at 10:35 AM, gatomontes99 said: Willful ignorance. ^Empty EVIDENCE FREE claim. Uncorroborated is NOT FALSE. Discredited is NOT FALSE. You post a lot of BS here, destroying your credibility, but that does not make what you post false, it makes it highly suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 44 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: my last point on this is that the amount of information on any given health topic is nearly infinite. I had shingles during summer 2020 and when I started looking around for information/remedies.. the amount of information was overwhelming. A lot of bizarre views on the topic. One video said that if I drank lemon juice.. my shingles would go away in days. Did not happen. And when you (gasp!) state that you do not know something.. the onslaught comes. BTW.. Shingles was 100 times worse than covid. How many die from shingles? I take it you would recommend getting vaxxed for that. I'm currently on the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 51 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Shingles was 100 times worse than covid. That's what I've heard. I did have chicken pox as a kid, so I carry the dormant virus which can be reactivated. I worry about it a bit as I get older, but I do take extremely good care of my immune system. **fingers crossed** Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: How many die from shingles? I take it you would recommend getting vaxxed for that. I'm currently on the fence. I do not know about the death count. I would recommend getting the vax. You may never have a break out but if you do.. you will never forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: That's what I've heard. I did have chicken pox as a kid, so I carry the dormant virus which can be reactivated. I worry about it a bit as I get older, but I do take extremely good care of my immune system. **fingers crossed** It is largely triggered by stress, lack of sleep, and such combined with your immune system getting attacked. Lets just say that if you have a break out, you will never forget it. Its like the worst sunburn that you can ever imagine, combined with the feeling that you are getting shocked everytime something touches you even in the slightest. Sunburn lasts 1 to 3 days at worst... this can last 6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 7 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It is largely triggered by stress, lack of sleep, and such combined with your immune system getting attacked. True. I should stay away from here, less stress 🤣 I know people who've had shingles, it really is horrible. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 8 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It is largely triggered by stress, lack of sleep, and such combined with your immune system getting attacked. Lets just say that if you have a break out, you will never forget it. Its like the worst sunburn that you can ever imagine, combined with the feeling that you are getting shocked everytime something touches you even in the slightest. Sunburn lasts 1 to 3 days at worst... this can last 6 weeks. They don't give you painkillers to deal with that pain? I think I would go to Mexico and get some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: They don't give you painkillers to deal with that pain? I think I would go to Mexico and get some. ibuprofen was only minimally effective. Only remedy that I encountered was some antivirus medication even though it was too late in my case. You are supposed to start taking the antiviral meds before you see the bumps. And then there was some overpriced ointment that supposedly was designed to dull the nerve sensations. Did not sleep much for a week. Probably TMI but whatever.. I had them on the abdomen from navel to spine on the right side.. just laying in bed felt like I was laying in boiling water. Edited September 6 by impartialobserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, impartialobserver said: ibuprofen was only minimally effective. Only remedies that I encountered were some antivirus medication even though it was too late in my case. You are supposed to start taking the antiviral meds before you see the bumps. And then there was some overpriced ointment that supposedly was designed to dull the nerve sensations. Ok, thanks. I guess I'll be heading to urgent care immediately. How do you know when to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: They don't give you painkillers to deal with that pain? I think I would go to Mexico and get some. I do a lot of natural oil blends and when friends asked, I made one from lavender, clove, ravintsara, geranium and manuka oils. Those are anti-inflammatory and analgesic oils and my friends said it did soothe and help with pain. Baking soda and cornstarch pastes help with the itching. I also have blends for cold sores, diaper rash, eczema and one for hemorrhoids - I get asked for those ones the most. Lots of repeat customers, although I never charge for my blends. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Ok, thanks. I guess I'll be heading to urgent care immediately. How do you know when to go? not sure if this is the place but I digress. The first sign (at least to myself) was the sensation like I had just touched something with static electricity. Except that the sensation was not on the surface but rather an inch down. Two situations triggered this.. being in the shower or sudden exposure to cold. This persisted for 4 to 5 weeks before the bumps showed up. Along with this was an odd intermittent cold-like feeling. It came and went. Hope that helps. Edited September 6 by impartialobserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: not sure if this is the place but I digress. The first sign (at least to myself) was the sensation like I had just touched something with static electricity. Except that the sensation was not on the surface but rather inches down. Two situations triggered this.. being in the shower or sudden exposure to cold. This persisted for 4 to 5 weeks before the bumps showed up. Along with this was an odd intermittent cold-like feeling. It came and went. Hope that helps. It will help in that I will high tail it to urgent care if I experience those symptoms. Thanks. And demand some Oxy if the antivirals don't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: It will help in that I will high tail it to urgent care if I experience those symptoms. Thanks. And demand some Oxy if the antivirals don't work. Well, lets hope that no on on here ( @Goddess included) encounters this problem. In my case, it was mostly too late in my case so just toughed it out. The areas that had shingles have little to no nerve sensation. Edited September 6 by impartialobserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Goddess said: They are not simple questions. They were all very simple questions, but since this is what you are going with: 1 hour ago, Goddess said: You want specific vax I think are dangerous and I've repeatedly said I believe they should ALL be reevaluated by independent labs and scientists. So, you think all vaccines are dangerous. But, you get really really mad if someone were to call you an anti-vaxxer. What am I missing here? You are very clearly opposed to vaccines. 1 hour ago, Goddess said: I believe I was clear on what I think happened. Because you argued against each point I made and provided CNN links to back yourself up. Maybe go back and read again? No, not really, you questioned a few different facts about what happened, but you have not offered any explanation about what reality it is you think is going on here. My hunch, since you won't be courageous enough to just say it, is that you don't believe very many people died from COVID (maybe you don't believe anyone died?), you think it was all a big conspiratorial lie. You realize how dumb that sounds and how easily torn apart such a claim is, so you banter about with rhetorical questions loaded with lies to sow doubt. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, robosmith said: How many die from shingles? I take it you would recommend getting vaxxed for that. I'm currently on the fence. After two people close to me got shingles, one of them on their face, I went and got the vaccine. It seemed like the only reasonable thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 25 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: After two people close to me got shingles, one of them on their face, I went and got the vaccine. It seemed like the only reasonable thing to do. Same here. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 46 minutes ago, User said: So, you think all vaccines are dangerous. I said I think they should all be re-evaluated. 🙄 47 minutes ago, User said: My hunch, since you won't be courageous enough to just say it, is that you don't believe very many people died from COVID LOL. Wow, I've posted repeatedly about the use of vents and remdesivir (which started in NY), lots of links and references. The US stopped using vents because that's what was killing people. It's why Canada's vents sat un-used and were just recently sold for scrap. You pretending to not know what I think is pretty lame-o. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, robosmith said: ^Empty EVIDENCE FREE claim. Uncorroborated is NOT FALSE. Discredited is NOT FALSE. You post a lot of BS here, destroying your credibility, but that does not make what you post false, it makes it highly suspect. Dude, 2 second Google search: A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele’s sources. And that is CNN for fks sake. Everyone that lives in this little realm called reality knows Steele's dossier was DNC paid propaganda. You aren't one of those people. I don't get it. Why do you choose to not be aware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 38 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: After two people close to me got shingles, one of them on their face, I went and got the vaccine. It seemed like the only reasonable thing to do. Like I told the other two.. if you get shingles, you will never forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 50 minutes ago, Goddess said: I said I think they should all be re-evaluated. 🙄 LOL. Wow, I've posted repeatedly about the use of vents and remdesivir (which started in NY), lots of links and references. The US stopped using vents because that's what was killing people. It's why Canada's vents sat un-used and were just recently sold for scrap. You pretending to not know what I think is pretty lame-o. Wow! My mom was on a ventilator for MONTHS after her stroke and resulting pneumonia destroyed her lungs. The vent didn't kill her, her CHOOSING to remove it did. My friend's brother got COVID early, flying back from Africa before COVID was widely known. He was in the ICU for 2 weeks on a ventilator, because HE COULD NOT BREATH without one. The vent saved his life and he was one of the lucky ones who survived COVID. Whoever is telling you that ventilators kill people is LYING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 54 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Dude, 2 second Google search: A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele’s sources. And that is CNN for fks sake. Everyone that lives in this little realm called reality knows Steele's dossier was DNC paid propaganda. You aren't one of those people. I don't get it. Why do you choose to not be aware? As I previously posted: Discredited is NOT FALSE. Unreliable is NOT FALSE. I am aware what it takes to prove FALSE and you ARE NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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