I am Groot Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 51 minutes ago, herbie said: Unskilled, uneducated people from Glasgow or Birmingham more to your preference? Maybe Appalachia and Nairobi? My preference would be for ZERO unskilled people coming in from anywhere. However, if I had to choose I'd choose Glasgow. At least the cultural differences would be minimized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: Indians coming in under the IWP program went from 9,000 in 2010 to 355,000 last year. Most are unskilled, uneducated people from the Punjab. You think this is a good idea? Nope. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 31 minutes ago, I am Groot said: If the Jews don't have the same culture, values, heritage and traditions then how can they be involved in the grand conspiracy to exterminate the white race? And why do they want so many Muslims - who hate them - over here? The fake economic growth we get from government spending and importing millions of poor people is not going to be to our benefit in the medium or long term. Hell, it's not to our benefit NOW. Jews don't have the same culture. For one thing, there is an obviously different historical legacy. Jews and white feel a different kind of connection to the 'holocaust', for example. Also, for centuries, jews had a very different way of life and survival strategy to white gentiles living in Europe. This had reproductive pressure on their population and made them into a fundamentally different people. Also, jews far prefer Muslims being in the west than next to israel...Muslims next to Israel are more dangerous. In the west Muslims become accustomed to decadence and product consumption and forget their blood and soil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 5 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Jews don't have the same culture. Are you saying Jews do not have any unique cultural traits and values? If so, how can they conspire against gentiles? 5 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Also, jews far prefer Muslims being in the west than next to israel...Muslims next to Israel are more dangerous. In the west Muslims become accustomed to decadence and product consumption and forget their blood and soil Are you saying Jews in the West like it that more Muslims come here and beat them and shoot at their schools and temples and make them fear walking around wearing Jewish religious outfits? Is this masochism part of their unique heritage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: Are you saying Jews do not have any unique cultural traits and values? If so, how can they conspire against gentiles? Are you saying Jews in the West like it that more Muslims come here and beat them and shoot at their schools and temples and make them fear walking around wearing Jewish religious outfits? Is this masochism part of their unique heritage? I feel like you are asking these questions in a post that already answered them. Yes jews are different and no, Muslims in the west are less of a threat than Muslims in gaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 10 minutes ago, Five of swords said: I feel like you are asking these questions in a post that already answered them. Yes jews are different and no, Muslims in the west are less of a threat than Muslims in gaza But most of the Muslims in the West aren't coming from Gaza. They're coming from Afghanistan and India, and Pakistan and Bangladesh and Egypt and Iraq and North Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: It's not racist to be concerned, even upset that suddenly everywhere you go in your own country everyone is a foreigner It's not is it? What makes you decide they're even foreigners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 7 minutes ago, herbie said: It's not is it? What makes you decide they're even foreigners? Statistics Canada and the Census Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: But most of the Muslims in the West aren't coming from Gaza. They're coming from Afghanistan and India, and Pakistan and Bangladesh and Egypt and Iraq and North Africa. Sure, most people in Gaza want to stay. Israel is trying to give them no choice. But regardless all Arab countries are ultimately a threat to Israel, and they woukd rather 'confuse the nations' as senecherib did according to the talmud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: We can have economic growth without any substantial growth in people. There isn't a mainstream economist in the land who believes that. Only ecofreak zero growth types like me. 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Too many immigrants now mostly from third world with substantially different culture especially those non-Christian or non-Europeans will create a chaos in our society and kind of clashes we now witness in Europe so it is not all about lack of infrastructure but more so about cultural backlash. But people are afraid of talking about it. Ha, you should see how people freak out at the thought of a zero growth economy! In any case I'm against immigration too but out of concern for the impact that population growth has on our already over-subscribed environment. 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: The fake economic growth we get from government spending and importing millions of poor people is not going to be to our benefit in the medium or long term. Hell, it's not to our benefit NOW. I agree. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: There isn't a mainstream economist in the land who believes that. Only ecofreak zero growth types like me. Ha, you should see how people freak out at the thought of a zero growth economy! In any case I'm against immigration too but out of concern for the impact that population growth has on our already over-subscribed environment. I agree. The greatest economic growth in history was simply the result of the invention and development of the steam engine. It had nothing to do with population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 2 hours ago, Five of swords said: Sure, most people in Gaza want to stay. Israel is trying to give them no choice. But regardless all Arab countries are ultimately a threat to Israel, and they woukd rather 'confuse the nations' as senecherib did according to the talmud But sending them to the West deeply weakens Western support for Israel. Witness the Democrats in the US, Liberals and NDP in Canada, Labour party in UK, etc. Same thing in France and Germany. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Five of swords said: The greatest economic growth in history was simply the result of the invention and development of the steam engine. It had nothing to do with population. No, it was clearly the other way around. The steam engine accelerated human population growth and helped spread us everywhere. We're the weediest most invasive species on the planet bar none. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: But sending them to the West deeply weakens Western support for Israel. Witness the Democrats in the US, Liberals and NDP in Canada, Labour party in UK, etc. Same thing in France and Germany. Israel owns the elite in the west, who don't care about public opinion 2 hours ago, eyeball said: No, it was clearly the other way around. The steam engine accelerated human population growth and helped spread us everywhere. We're the weediest most invasive species on the planet bar none. Dude...the steam engine does not require nor necessitate population. The biggest factor in economics is technology. Always has been. Population is trivial in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Five of swords said: Dude...the steam engine does not require nor necessitate population. I know. As I said, steam engines propelled population growth. Quote The biggest factor in economics is technology. Always has been. Population is trivial in comparison. Economists define four factors of production: land, labor, capital and entrepreneurship. These can be considered the building blocks of an economy. How these factors are combined determines the success or failure of the outcome.Dec 22, 2020 https://www.wichita.edu/academics/business/CIBA/wtc/documents/FourFactorsOfProduction_Investing101_USNews.pdf Land, labor, capital and entrepreneurship employ technology which is obviously important but its just a tool they use. Its certainly not been trivial as it pertains to population growth. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradox34 Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 Greatness is the result of a shared vision and effort. Immigration from countries with contrary goals, views and ethics contribute nothing but strife and division. How diversity became a "strength" is astounding. All one has to do is look in a non-woke dictionary to discover the root meaning of diversity is divisive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 42 minutes ago, paradox34 said: Greatness is the result of a shared vision and effort. Immigration from countries with contrary goals, views and ethics contribute nothing but strife and division. How diversity became a "strength" is astounding. All one has to do is look in a non-woke dictionary to discover the root meaning of diversity is divisive! This is true. History is fairly clear, you don't all need to have the same vision and beliefs, but you must have a block of them in common. It is less and less the case these days in Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 17 hours ago, Five of swords said: Israel owns the elite in the west, who don't care about public opinion You're mixing up your Jewish conspiracy theories. Almost all the influence Israel has in the US is based on the Jewish vote there as well as donations from wealthy Jewish donors, remember? These people live in the US, and if they had any control over immigration I think the majority would probably prefer to screen out Muslims given that religious group's noted antipathy for Jews. The idea that millions of American Jews would willingly fill their neighborhoods with potentially violent people who hate them just to ever so slightly ease the number of Arabs in the middle-east is almost laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: You're mixing up your Jewish conspiracy theories. Almost all the influence Israel has in the US is based on the Jewish vote there as well as donations from wealthy Jewish donors, remember? These people live in the US, and if they had any control over immigration I think the majority would probably prefer to screen out Muslims given that religious group's noted antipathy for Jews. The idea that millions of American Jews would willingly fill their neighborhoods with potentially violent people who hate them just to ever so slightly ease the number of Arabs in the middle-east is almost laughable. You are under the impression that public opinion matters. If that were true then integration never would have happened, for example. But some decades after integration, it was forbidden to question it. Culture follows law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted September 3 Author Report Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, I am Groot said: You're mixing up your Jewish conspiracy theories. Almost all the influence Israel has in the US is based on the Jewish vote there as well as donations from wealthy Jewish donors, remember? These people live in the US, and if they had any control over immigration I think the majority would probably prefer to screen out Muslims given that religious group's noted antipathy for Jews. The idea that millions of American Jews would willingly fill their neighborhoods with potentially violent people who hate them just to ever so slightly ease the number of Arabs in the middle-east is almost laughable. No point in even debating him. He is just recycling the same antisemitic driver that has been done since Medieval times. It's intellectually lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 (edited) On 8/26/2024 at 1:52 PM, DUI_Offender said: A record number of South Asians has come too Canada over the past two years. Housing supply is not adequate, and ads for homes, apartments, and room are advertising to "Indians only." Is it time we stopped the flow of Indians and other South Asian groups? Completely agree. I do not care about the housing situation and if they live up in the trees. It simply has changed the population in the country to the point we may not want to stay. Imagine what your pol results will look like a few years from now when 90% of the forum members are East Indians Edited September 3 by cougar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 15 hours ago, I am Groot said: You're mixing up your Jewish conspiracy theories. Almost all the influence Israel has in the US is based on the Jewish vote there as well as donations from wealthy Jewish donors, remember? These people live in the US, and if they had any control over immigration I think the majority would probably prefer to screen out Muslims given that religious group's noted antipathy for Jews. The idea that millions of American Jews would willingly fill their neighborhoods with potentially violent people who hate them just to ever so slightly ease the number of Arabs in the middle-east is almost laughable. Regardless, you don't need to wonder why they are doing it. You can confirm that they are in fact doing it. Israelaid is an ngo that is largely responsible for the movement of arabs into europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 On 9/1/2024 at 2:54 PM, I am Groot said: The funny thing about this cliche'd statement is your kind make the exact same argument in the UK about the British. Ah yes you got me there, one can't forget the longstanding and abiding historical unity between the English, Scots and Irish. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Ah yes you got me there, one can't forget the longstanding and abiding historical unity between the English, Scots and Irish. Or even the Irish and the other Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: No point in even debating him. He is just recycling the same antisemitic driver that has been done since Medieval times. It's intellectually lazy. Medieval times? Like when the jews opened the gates of toledo for the berber invaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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