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3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Cause he didn’t say it. 

So, you are unable to google or admit you have not actually read all of his works... 

 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

What language was it originally written in? 

You seem to be having trouble here, so, here you go. Not just Clement, but it shows you many early thoughts that occurred long before the 1970's as you ignorantly tried to claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christian_thought_on_abortion#:~:text=Abortion%2C it is true%2C was,Basil.

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5 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I disagree. Jesus loves everyone. But he didn't think we'll of liars (like those who pretend climate change is not real) and those who tried to have dominion over others. Look at what he said about the money-changers 

You shouldn't disagree. Jesus is a loving God, but He doesn't tolerate your climate deception and undying compulsion to slaughter our unborn and control everyone's speech. Murderers and left-wing authoritarian sluts will be thrust down to hell.

The question that remains is, will you repent in time? 

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2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

So maybe you can answer how long it takes for anxiety from instability and political unrest to show up in grocery shelf prices. Seems to align precisely with the peak of inflation early in Biden's term. Which was the point autism-boy above is desperately trying to avoid by obsessing on how Trumpsters so cherish the Truth. 😂 

So you think that Trump held things together perfectly for four years and then the dam just burst a few months into 2021? And the inflation lasted for years? And after all that reaching you're trying to say that I'm the desperate one lol.

Biden went to war on American energy ON DAY 1. Not only that, he bragged about it. He was a hero to leftists. He unilaterally shut down new permits for fracking on gov't land on day1. He also went to war on American coal. 

Here's a perfect example of what happens when the leader of a country openly declares war against their own economy: in Canada we had $135 billion dollars worth of oil infrastructure investments approved when Trudeau was elected in 2015, which all disappeared on a project-by-project basis. All he did was say that he was intent on phasing out gas and oil production in Canada eventually, and investors simply made plans for their money elsewhere. A $30B plan was scrapped  here, a few weeks later another $35B project shut down, then another, then another, and by the end of it there were a hundred thousands jobs lost in one year in Alberta alone. Not cheap-ass jobs either, they were the rare types of jobs where 1 was enough for a whole family to live comfortably on. 

Biden's war on domestic energy came at a time when Russia was demanding Ukraine be barred from ever entering NATO, and Europeans were looking to find alternate sources for natural gas. Trudeau screwed Canada out of grabbing some of that market, just like you'd expect, but all of these energy problems happened at the same time Biden was devaluing the USD with his own spending spree. 

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If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. 

Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. 

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8 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I disagree. Jesus loves everyone.

I apologize to Deluge.  I mis-directed my comment to him.

I meant this to be to you.

That is interesting.  That statement that Jesus loves everyone should be clarified  or it could be misinterpreted.  It is a broad subject.

May I ask, do you know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?  

What do you believe about Him?

If you would like more information and some help in learning more about what I am talking about, you could go to this website and watch some of the messages.  Message 297 and 298 should be particularly interesting.   It might be extremely valuable to you.  Let me know if you do and if you found the messages helpful.

LTBS TV Broadcasting | Let the Bible Speak

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12 hours ago, Rebound said:

No. In the Bible, the Lord refers to knowing a person before they were even conceived. So the Bible teaches us that life begins before conception. 

I think you are adding something that the Bible doesn't teach.  You appear to be misinterpreting "knowing a person before they were even conceived" as meaning they are alive before they are conceived.  But it doesn't say that.

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7 hours ago, blackbird said:

I think you are adding something that the Bible doesn't teach.  You appear to be misinterpreting "knowing a person before they were even conceived" as meaning they are alive before they are conceived.  But it doesn't say that.

That’s adding a WHOLE lot less than concluding the statement means birth begins AT conception. The Bible definitely does NOT say “Life begins when sperm hits an egg”. It does say that you should give an accused adulteress a poison which will kill the unborn if it was conceived out of wedlock, so, yes, the Bible actually ORDERS abortion.  Sorry, but it just plain does, and you know it.  
 

You are welcome to your religious belief. You truly are. I mean, there are people who will only have sex through a sheet with a hole in it.  If that’s how they want to live their life, good for them, just don’t tell everybody else they have to live that way.  It’s called “Mind your own business.”
 

Legally forcing 10 and 12 year-old rape victims to carry babies to term isn’t religion, it’s cruelty, and it’s evil.  You are not going to heaven because of standing up and saying “Good Lord, I forced a 10 year old rape victim to deliver a baby, so please let me in heaven.”  

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19 minutes ago, Rebound said:

That’s adding a WHOLE lot less than concluding the statement means birth begins AT conception. 
 

You are welcome to your religious belief. You truly are. I mean, there are people who will only have sex through a sheet with a hole in it.  If that’s how they want to live their life, good for them, just don’t tell everybody else they have to live that way.  It’s called “Mind your own business.”
 

Legally forcing 10 and 12 year-old rape victims to carry babies to term isn’t religion, it’s cruelty, and it’s evil.  

If you are a non-believer, you are opposing God and his word so it is useless to try to reach agreement on anything to do with it.  You need to get over that hurdle first.  We are all lost sinners and need God's Son to save us.  

I would suggest you listen to some sermons and take them seriously.  To summarize, you need to be saved from hell.  There is only one way to do that.  God can save you.

Go to this link and start watching the video messages.

Home Page | Let the Bible Speak (ltbs.tv)

A good place to start is on this link to watch LTBS TV program 302. If you scroll down you will find it.

 

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God through his Son, Jesus Christ, will save anyone.  But we must realize we are lost sinners in need of a SAvior.

We must come to him with a humble heart.  That is why these gospel message are a life line.  Do not pass the opportunity to be saved for eternity.  Life is short.  Grab the lifeline now while there is still time.

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49 minutes ago, blackbird said:

If you are a non-believer, you are opposing God and his word so it is useless to try to reach agreement on anything to do with it.  You need to get over that hurdle first.  We are all lost sinners and need God's Son to save us.  

I would suggest you listen to some sermons and take them seriously.  To summarize, you need to be saved from hell.  There is only one way to do that.  God can save you.

Go to this link and start watching the video messages.

Home Page | Let the Bible Speak (ltbs.tv)

A good place to start is on this link to watch LTBS TV program 302. If you scroll down you will find it.

 

That’s nonsense.

Because that’s you deciding that you understand G-d perfectly and nobody but you does and only if people agree with you 100% can they possibly be right.  That is just make-believe. Maybe some preacher sold you that bill of nonsense, or you’re truly crazy and you think G-d talks to you through your dog, but it’s nonsense.

Jesus is very clear about many of these very things in the Sermon on the Mount. He tells us to beware of those who preach loudly on street corners or in church, for the rewards come to those who pray in silence at home. Do you choose to not believe that? Do you really think that he intends heaven for a flamboyant jerk like Joel Osteen and his Ministry of Money? 

This isn’t even difficult. Faith is between you and the Lord. It’s not a count of how many people you convert. Walk the walk. Prove the beauty of your faith through your acts of goodness. Christ, more than anything, was forgiving, not intolerant. And salvation is the Lord’s decision, not yours. There are many, many commandments which you violate in your life. As one famous rabbi once said: Too many of my congregants are too concerned about their material well-being and their neighbor’s salvation, when they should be more concerned with the material well-being of their neighbors and their own salvation. That comment has Christ written all over it. It is precisely what he means.

Your faith is between you and the Lord, and your piety and your good acts. Forcing others to bow to your will is not an act of faith. 

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Because that’s you deciding that you understand G-d perfectly and nobody but you does and only if people agree with you 100% can they possibly be right.

I never said or suggested I understand God perfectly.  I have pointed you to Jesus Christ because you gave no evidence you are a born again believer.  If you are, give us your testimony how you came to be a Christian and what exactly you believe.

Do you think it was wrong for the Apostles and disciples of Christ in the early church to go out into the world to preach the gospel to every person?  Should they have just kept to themselves?  

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Your faith is between you and the Lord, and your piety and your good acts. Forcing others to bow to your will is not an act of faith. 

Jesus said "15  And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. "  Mark 16:15 KJV

Are you saved?  How do you know?

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Maybe some preacher sold you that bill of nonsense, or you’re truly crazy and you think G-d talks to you through your dog, but it’s nonsense.

The Holy Scripture was given to men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

" 16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."  2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

The Bible is therefore God's revelation to man.  It is God speaking to man.  How is it crazy then to believe that God does not speak to man through his Holy Scripture.  That is how God the Holy Spirit communicates with people, through his written word, the Bible.  If you don't believe that, why do you mention the Bible?  What does it mean?

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Jesus is very clear about many of these very things in the Sermon on the Mount. He tells us to beware of those who preach loudly on street corners or in church, for the rewards come to those who pray in silence at home. Do you choose to not believe that?

This is similar to what you already said.  You want to silence anyone and stop them from talking about what God says in his word.  As I said, do you oppose the apostles, prophets, disciples of Christ who spread the gospel to the world after Christ?  Do you oppose the missionaries that went out into the world through the centuries and spread the message of Christ and preached the Bible?  It sounds like it.  Countless people gave their lives to spread the gospel of salvation by faith in Jesus Christ.  Were they wrong to do that?  They were martyred by being burned at the stake, crucified, and various other ways.

 

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Do you really think that he intends heaven for a flamboyant jerk like Joel Osteen and his Ministry of Money? 

Really?  Are you really in a position to judge Joel Osteen?  I don't think I am qualified or in a position to judge him.  I have a million other things in life to do and don't know much about him.  People make their choices about who they want to support.

 

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

This isn’t even difficult. Faith is between you and the Lord. It’s not a count of how many people you convert. Walk the walk. Prove the beauty of your faith through your acts of goodness. Christ, more than anything, was forgiving, not intolerant.

Of course faith is between me and the Lord.  Never said it wasn't.

But it makes sense to share the gospel and help others be saved and receive eternal life doesn't it?  Why would you want to silence believers and let people blindly go to hell?  If you saw someone in danger would you not want to warn them if you had the chance?  Your reasoning is seriously flawed.

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Too many of my congregants are too concerned about their material well-being and their neighbor’s salvation, when they should be more concerned with the material well-being of their neighbors and their own salvation.

We are not even talking about material wealth so I don't really get your point.  Salvation is strictly by faith in Jesus Christ, not by works.  Nothing wrong with voluntary charity.  That is a good thing.  But you can't earn your way into heaven.  See Ephesians 2:8, 9 KJV  If you are saying one must do good works or support Socialism to earn salvation, that is completely false.  That is a false gospel.  Socialism is evil anyway because it is stealing from those that have to give to others.  The Bible condemns stealing.

 

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Forcing others to bow to your will is not an act of faith. 

I am not forcing anybody to do anything.  A conversation doesn't force anybody to do anything.  You choose your own path.  But you must accept the consequences of your own decisions.

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9 hours ago, Rebound said:

It does say that you should give an accused adulteress a poison which will kill the unborn if it was conceived out of wedlock, so, yes, the Bible actually ORDERS abortion.  Sorry, but it just plain does, and you know it.  

Tell me you have not read the Bible without telling me you have not actually read the Bible... hell, not even the scripture you think you are quoting. 

That is not what the scripture says at all. 

9 hours ago, Rebound said:

Legally forcing 10 and 12 year-old rape victims to carry babies to term isn’t religion, it’s cruelty, and it’s evil.  You are not going to heaven because of standing up and saying “Good Lord, I forced a 10 year old rape victim to deliver a baby, so please let me in heaven.”  

But... if they have the baby and later decide they can't live with it, you are totally cool with them killing their 1 year old child?

 

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8 hours ago, Rebound said:

Jesus is very clear about many of these very things in the Sermon on the Mount. He tells us to beware of those who preach loudly on street corners or in church, for the rewards come to those who pray in silence at home.

You are conflating preaching with praying. What do you think Jesus did? He went around preaching to the masses. 

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

Faith is between you and the Lord.

No, it is not. Jesus spent his life teaching disciples to go out and spread the word. His entire misison was evangalism. Jesus did not just stay home and never say a word about God to anyone. 

You literally have no clue what you are talking about. 

 

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On 8/23/2024 at 6:21 AM, blackbird said:

"Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had.

On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” 

Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. 

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.

The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. "

Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner

The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S.  They hold pretty much the same belief systems.

Kamala Harris in her final DNC speech proudly boasts of her support for abortion as a national right or killing of pre-born babies as freely as possible.  She was wildly cheered by the DNC.  This is a complete rejection of Christian belief in the sanctity of human life.

FREEDOM demands the first amendment: "Congress shall make NO LAWS RESPECTING an establishment of RELIGION."

Our right to PRIVACY means citizens' religion is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT's business. 

And NONE OF YOURS, TOO.

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4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And NONE OF YOURS, TOO.

Freedom means others are free to engage with you about your religion or lack thereof if they want to. 

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On 8/23/2024 at 1:23 PM, West said:

So you support selling harmful substances? 

So you support government being the solution instead of family and personal responsibility?

On 8/23/2024 at 1:28 PM, Deluge said:

Jesus has nothing to do with abortion loving climate nazis, comrade. I think you had better get acquainted with the Bible before you and the devil get on a first name basis with each other. 

You're LYING. You NEVER THINK, JUST BELIEVE your own BULLSHIT.

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On 8/23/2024 at 1:42 PM, Rebound said:

I’m afraid that it violates many principles of Christianity, and additionally, calling the downtrodden and poor “animals,” “not human”, “rapists” and “murderers” is particularly anti-Christian. 

IINM, Jesus was born to immigrants in a manger. AKA not at home.

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Just now, robosmith said:

IINM, Jesus was born to immigrants in a manger. AKA not at home.

It is amazing how desperate you folks are to try to lie and twist what the Bible says to suit your political narratives. 

Jesus parents were not immigrants. They were in Bethlehem on business and then went back to Nazareth to raise Jesus. 

Not that you will see this, because you are cowardly hiding from me. Because I routinely call you out for the dumb things you say like this. 

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So you support government being the solution instead of family and personal responsibility?

The solution to securing our borders? Yes. 

That is not a matter of individual responsibility. 

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

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