blackbird Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) "Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had. On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity. The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. " Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S. They hold pretty much the same belief systems. Kamala Harris in her final DNC speech proudly boasts of her support for abortion as a national right or killing of pre-born babies as freely as possible. She was wildly cheered by the DNC. This is a complete rejection of Christian belief in the sanctity of human life. Edited August 23 by blackbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 35 minutes ago, blackbird said: "Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had. So your solution is to vote for a rapist adulterer who has had four kids with three different wives, all of whom he’s cheated on. Yeah. Spare me your so-called moral superiority. Let’s talk about sex, shall we? What did Jesus say about sex? He said one thing and only one thing: DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY. What other Christian Values did Jesus Christ himself teach us? Feed the poor Be modest and pray in private, not loudly on the street corner Be forgiving Be loving Love thy neighbor as thyself Pray (psst! Can you show us one picture of Trump going to church to pray? No) Serving people is equal to Serving the Lord The Republican Party fights against all of those values! The only “Christian value” you hold up is sex. If your neighbor is gay, what does Christ tell you to do? He tells you to love him. Not sexually, but lovingly. But you want to hate those people. Christ created them the same as he created you. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.” Edited August 23 by Rebound 3 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 55 minutes ago, blackbird said: "Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had. On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity. The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. " Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S. They hold pretty much the same belief systems. Kamala Harris in her final DNC speech proudly boasts of her support for abortion as a national right or killing of pre-born babies as freely as possible. She was wildly cheered by the DNC. This is a complete rejection of Christian belief in the sanctity of human life. This is true. Yet there are left wing atheists dumping big money into marketing campaigns to make their causes seem like "gospel issues". https://www.amazon.ca/Shepherds-Sale-Evangelical-Leaders-Leftist/dp/0063413442 Right now I'm making my way through this eye opening book in light of whats happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 17 minutes ago, West said: This is true. Yet there are left wing atheists dumping big money into marketing campaigns to make their causes seem like "gospel issues". https://www.amazon.ca/Shepherds-Sale-Evangelical-Leaders-Leftist/dp/0063413442 Right now I'm making my way through this eye opening book in light of whats happening. Interesting book. To quote: “Many evangelical leaders are pushing their members to “whisper” about sexual sins, reconsider the importance of abortion, lament the effects of climate change, and repent of “perpetuating systemic racism.” Tell me, what is un-Christian about coming to terms with climate change and systemic racism? For that matter, when did Christianity begin taking a position on abortion? In 1972? George Washington didn’t talk about it. Abraham Lincoln didn’t bring it up. Martin Luther didn’t write it down on a note he put on the door of a church. Jesus didn’t mention it… It is a made-up invention of modern day Christians and far, far, far from the oore teaching of Christianity. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rebound said: What other Christian Values did Jesus Christ himself teach us? Feed the poor Be modest and pray in private, not loudly on the street corner Be forgiving Be loving Love thy neighbor as thyself Pray (psst! Can you show us one picture of Trump going to church to pray? No) Serving people is equal to Serving the Lord I've got a bridge to sell you. The cunning Democrats claim this is what they are all about but this is just a smokescreen to hide their real agenda. Some may actually believe these points you quoted, but they are over-ruled by the woke and progressives in the Democratic Party. Just listen to their new candidate talk about "reproductive rights". Nothing Christian about killing pre-born babies. Jesus would not be happy about that. Socialism is another anti-Biblical ideology strongly pushed by the radical liberals / Democrats. State-ordained wealth redistribution or Socialism has nothing to do with voluntary charity which you correctly quoted Jesus as teaching. Charity has to be voluntary by individuals or charitable organizations. That is totally different than Socialist government policies. quote Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity. unquote The Democratic party is all about pushing their secular humanist agenda on society and this is totally contrary to what Jesus and the Bible teach. The Bible condemns any sexual relations outside marriage between a husband and wife. Jesus is also called the word. The word refers to Holy Scripture or the Bible, in English the King James Bible. That means the Bible was written by Jesus who is God. So what the Bible teaches is what Jesus teaches even though it may not be a direct quote of Jesus' words as in the gospels. " 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. " John 1:14 KJV Edited August 23 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rebound said: when did Christianity begin taking a position on abortion? In 1972? George Washington didn’t talk about it. Abraham Lincoln didn’t bring it up. Martin Luther didn’t write it down on a note he put on the door of a church. Jesus didn’t mention it… It is a made-up invention of modern day Christians and far, far, far from the oore teaching of Christianity. That is a lie. God speaks through the Bible where he recognizes the pre-born fetuses or whatever you want to call them as human beings or persons. Google it and you can find many verses that show God considers them as persons. God says thou shalt not kill in the Bible, and that includes everyone born or preborn. This has been part of the Holy Scripture (Holy Bible) for several thousand years since it was written. It may not have been a political issue in past centuries because abortion was not legitimized by the state or authorities. But there is nothing new about pre-born being persons. Edited August 23 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rebound said: Interesting book. To quote: “Many evangelical leaders are pushing their members to “whisper” about sexual sins, reconsider the importance of abortion, lament the effects of climate change, and repent of “perpetuating systemic racism.” Tell me, what is un-Christian about coming to terms with climate change and systemic racism? For that matter, when did Christianity begin taking a position on abortion? In 1972? George Washington didn’t talk about it. Abraham Lincoln didn’t bring it up. Martin Luther didn’t write it down on a note he put on the door of a church. Jesus didn’t mention it… It is a made-up invention of modern day Christians and far, far, far from the oore teaching of Christianity. If you read the book, nothing really. Honest Christians can have disputes over fossil fuel usage as an example and how to best move forward on economic development. It's not just as simple as saying that Climate Change is a "gospel issue" though. She uses the Sri Lankin example in the book where they basically destroyed their economy and impoverished everyone because they demanded they give up fossil fuel usage. The cobalt mining is also unregulated and done largely by child labor so there's another issue with it why a Christian may oppose it. If the people who are dumping a bunch of money into these Christian front groups are profiting off of it that's also an issue with what they accuse Christian Nationalists of doing. Keep politics out of it unless they agree with it then they can bring politics into it.. it's dishonest Edited August 23 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Quote Support for the Democratic Party is a complete rejection of Christian values in society. Good. Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 False prophets who love Satan often try to denigrate the teachings of Christ and portray him as evil like them. Jesus was clear about how he thought of them and he would never have supported an evil like Trump, and no real Christian does either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: False prophets who love Satan often try to denigrate the teachings of Christ and portray him as evil like them. Jesus was clear about how he thought of them and he would never have supported an evil like Trump, and no real Christian does either. Just like Democrats trying to make the poor starve because of climate change. Sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Rebound said: Interesting book. To quote: “Many evangelical leaders are pushing their members to “whisper” about sexual sins, reconsider the importance of abortion, lament the effects of climate change, and repent of “perpetuating systemic racism.” Tell me, what is un-Christian about coming to terms with climate change and systemic racism? For that matter, when did Christianity begin taking a position on abortion? In 1972? George Washington didn’t talk about it. Abraham Lincoln didn’t bring it up. Martin Luther didn’t write it down on a note he put on the door of a church. Jesus didn’t mention it… It is a made-up invention of modern day Christians and far, far, far from the oore teaching of Christianity. Since the first century, Christians have had positions against abortion. I swear, the amount of ignorance in your post is astounding. 1972? Try Clement of Alexandria. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, blackbird said: That is a lie. God speaks through the Bible where he recognizes the pre-born fetuses or whatever you want to call them as human beings or persons. Google it and you can find many verses that show God considers them as persons. God says thou shalt not kill in the Bible, and that includes everyone born or preborn. This has been part of the Holy Scripture (Holy Bible) for several thousand years since it was written. It may not have been a political issue in past centuries because abortion was not legitimized by the state or authorities. But there is nothing new about pre-born being persons. No. In the Bible, the Lord refers to knowing a person before they were even conceived. So the Bible teaches us that life begins before conception. Edited August 23 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Rebound said: Pray (psst! Can you show us one picture of Trump going to church to pray? No) Trump praying in Church, Google is your friend: Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 13 minutes ago, User said: Since the first century, Christians have had positions against abortion. I swear, the amount of ignorance in your post is astounding. 1972? Try Clement of Alexandria. Clement of Alexandria argued for the equality of the sexes, and also wrote that Christ was neither male nor female and that the Lord has traits of both sexes. If we look at the beginning of this thread, @blackbird says that’s precisely the sort of value today’s Christians abhor: “Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society.” As for the rest: I don’t care. F*ck whoever you want, as long as they’re over 18 and it’s consensual. If you want to jump into a 50-man orgy, go right ahead. Be my guest. If you want to live a Christian life and remain faithful only to your wife, you’re welcome to. Neither one is a “war” upon the other. You do what you want, and I’ll do what I want, and the Lord is more than capable of choosing who He will and will not save. It’s not up to me or you. Edited August 23 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Just now, Rebound said: Clement of Alexandria argued for the equality of the sexes, and also wrote that Christ was neither male nor female and that the Lord has traits of both sexes. If we look at the beginning of this thread, @blackbird says that’s precisely the sort of value today’s Christians abhor: “Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society.” In other words, rather than admit how beyond ignorant your claim was... you change the subject. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 15 minutes ago, User said: Trump praying in Church, Google is your friend: That’s not going to church, that’s a photo op, clear as day. The pews are empty. Trump doesn’t belong to any church and he doesn’t even identity with any Christian denomination. He couldn’t quote a single Bible verse when asked. Edited August 23 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 20 minutes ago, Rebound said: That’s not going to church, that’s a photo op, clear as day. The pews are empty. Its a church, they went there, they prayed. Now, all you can do is run away instead of admitting you made a dumb challenge. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, West said: Just like Democrats trying to make the poor starve because of climate change. Sad Actually it's the Republicans who were paid by the oil and gas industry to ignore climate change, causing people to starve. And you thought immigration was bad now. Just wait till the climate wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: False prophets who love Satan often try to denigrate the teachings of Christ and portray him as evil like them. Jesus was clear about how he thought of them and he would never have supported an evil like Trump, and no real Christian does either. If you're not WITH Jesus, then you're AGAINST Jesus. That means you and any other abortion/open borders slut. 30 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Actually it's the Republicans who were paid by the oil and gas industry to ignore climate change, causing people to starve. And you thought immigration was bad now. Just wait till the climate wars. There is no climate change, wokejob. Come on outside; the weather's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Jesus loved everyone. He would never demonize illegal immigrants. Those who do are not living in Christ. Jesus never said anything about abortion, but he did believe in the freedom for a person to choose their own path in life. Those who seek to dictate control over others' bodies are not living in Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 54 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Jesus loved everyone. He would never demonize illegal immigrants. Those who do are not living in Christ. Jesus never said anything about abortion, but he did believe in the freedom for a person to choose their own path in life. Those who seek to dictate control over others' bodies are not living in Christ They are ILLEGAL. You can love someone while also caring about enforcing your countries borders and laws. Jesus devoted his life to following the path of God and instructing others to do the same. You are free to choose otherwise, doesn't mean that is what Jesus instructed or taught. Jesus never said anything specifically about beating someone to death with a rubber hose... doesn't mean it is not covered under the whole thou shall not murder and love your neighbor commandments... The unborn child is its own body. Women have all the control they want BEFORE they put one inside of them. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: Jesus loved everyone. He would never demonize illegal immigrants. Those who do are not living in Christ. Jesus never said anything about abortion, but he did believe in the freedom for a person to choose their own path in life. Those who seek to dictate control over others' bodies are not living in Christ The gospel according to Oprah right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy1979 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Deluge said: If you're not WITH Jesus, then you're AGAINST Jesus. There is no climate change, wokejob. Come on outside; the weather's fine. Jesus also didn't lie, as you are doing. There is still time to accept Christ over Trump and save your immortal soul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 this thread is nothing but a desperate search for affirmation. The OP is quite evangelical and can't accept that the world could possibly not embrace his values. He is in for quite a bit more upsetting times. Automation, technology, and such are going to continue changing the younger generation.. not in ways that he likes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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