The truth about the liberal left in Canada and the U.S.A.

[blackbird]

"

Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had.

On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” 

Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. 

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.

The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. "

Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner

The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S.  They hold pretty much the same belief systems.

This is how the western world which was once far more of a Judeo-Christian society is under attack.

Edited August 23 by blackbird

[herbie]

So long as you insist the Liberals are leftists the more credibility you lose with your rants.
And perhaps Christians who think like you are abandoning that Party, but they aren't and weren't ever Liberals and certainly don't think or act like Christians at all.
So you're yelling at clouds.

Edited August 24 by herbie

[Michael Hardner]

10 hours ago, herbie said:

So long as you insist the Liberals are leftists the more credibility you lose with your rants.
And perhaps Christians who think like you are abandoning that Party, but they aren't and weren't ever Liberals and certainly don't think or act like Christians at all.
So you're yelling at clouds.

They are right about one thing. Narcissism and self-centeredness has risen to the point where they can't coexist with our idea of a Nation. 

 

If you're not willing to do anything at all to help your countrymen, there's no point. If you're not willing to engage in politics because you reject values that aren't identical to yours, then there's no point. 

The idea that the Democrats own narcissism is a culture war talking point. To me, such values come on the back of the Public Sphere.  In this case, I would blame Advertising and it's century-long tradition of flattery for creating a mass of superego consumers and destroying the concept of citizenry.

We don't think about other people anymore.

Edited August 24 by Michael Hardner

[Zeitgeist]

Unfortunately Canada is run by radical left activists who dominate all mainstream political parties, including the Conservatives.  In the US there’s still some hope for the Republican Party.  I say some hope because the trajectory for Western Civilization, which was founded on Judeo-Christian values, legal precedents, and democratic rights, is towards extinction.  Simply put, a civilization that renounces the foundational principles that caused it to thrive and grow is on a bad path.  That civilization now provides free infertility drugs, hard drugs, unhealthy prescription drugs, provides assisted suicide, relies on mass immigration to perpetuate its economy (even when some imported cultural ideas clash with Western Judeo-Christian values), makes basic necessities unnecessarily expensive (through carbon taxes and redistributive socialist high taxes), has chemically altered the environment and food supply in concerning ways, and has created new rights that undermine the family and natural reproduction.

The high cost of living urban West has forced individuals to work harder for less, such that both parents have to work in order to raise kids who are often perceived as a burden.  Efforts to provide more than the basic necessities are stymied by an increasingly draconian and activist government and tax structure that is aided by greater surveillance and digital tracking. Education systems are undermining parents and families by facilitating unnatural narcissism and Marxist values.

All of these changes are happening so fast and furious that we don’t know what hit us.  We haven’t even absorbed the implications.

Edited August 24 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Unfortunately Canada is run by radical left activists ...

I'm two seconds in and I stopped reading.

Culture Warriors, please do me a favour and stop posting about the Culture War as if you're not fighting in it 

 

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm two seconds in and I stopped reading.

Culture Warriors, please do me a favour and stop posting about the Culture War as if you're not fighting in it 

 

You stopped reading because you’re willfully ignorant and in denial. Your mentality is trapped in 1995.  That world is gone.  

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

You stopped reading because you’re willfully ignorant and in denial. Your mentality is trapped in 1995.  That world is gone.  

I know it is.

I stopped reading because I saw where it was going.  It's not that interesting to read rants about how 1/2 the country is crazy 

 

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I know it is.

I stopped reading because I saw where it was going.  It's not that interesting to read rants about how 1/2 the country is crazy 

 

I never said half the country is crazy.  I said that radical left activists have infiltrated the major political parties.  It’s the main reason we’re in these culture wars, because the mainstream electorate is starting to wake up.  I say starting because I think the mainstream media and the activists continue to push an agenda that’s essentially antithetical to healthy values.  What are healthy values? Values that strengthen and develop democracy (especially at the local level, including the family), competence, prosperity, and virtuous action.

The affirmation of destructive behaviour is the result of undemocratic and anti-Judeo-Christian policies and practices.

Not anything goes, but that’s not the same thing as inordinate censorship and the ability to question and debate.  It’s clear that the US Democratic Party is stifling debate and free speech.  The Liberal Party of Canada’s track record on this over the past several years is dismal and documented across hundreds of pages on this site.

It’s important not to be an apologist for bad policy and positions.

He who stands for nothing falls for everything.

I think the main reasons we got here are that most people assumed that government advanced their interests and wouldn’t cower to radicals.  Most people are busy, afraid of losing what they have, and simply aren’t equipped to take on the professional politicians and upper managerial class who have revealed themselves to be largely self-serving.  Some will even advance policies that work against constituents in order to win favour with unaccountable elite bodies.

Frankly I’ve stopped posting much here anymore because the sleepy willful blindness is painfully obvious. Until most of the electorate are aware of the problems, we won’t do much to address them. I do see an awakening happening, but it’s slow-going and tends to get buried in the hysteria over Trump or similar bellicose figures who are checkered people trying to sort through the mess. No politician is perfect. We’re often choosing the lesser of evils.  

Edited August 24 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US.

If you are calling the left narcissistic...how do you account for Trump on the repuglican right LOL

[Zeitgeist]

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US.

If you are calling the left narcissistic...how do you account for Trump on the repuglican right LOL

Trump’s frailties are obvious and relatively harmless.  He isn’t going after free speech or supporting strange radical agendas.  He’s basically a small government tycoon who wants to retain American living standards and Judeo-Christian values, even if he fails short of them in his personal life. I don’t think any of the politicians running are great.  I do value debate of policies and open dialogue. There’s simply less of that on the left now.  

Edited August 24 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Trump’s frailties are obvious and relatively harmless.  He isn’t going after free speech or supporting strange radical agendas.  He’s basically a small government tycoon who wants to retain American living standards and Judeo-Christian values, even if he fails short of them in his personal life. I don’t think any of the politicians running are great.  I do value debate of policies and open dialogue. There’s simply less of that on the left now.  

As I said "The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US. "

What debate?? From any side?

And "If you are calling the left narcissistic...how do you account for Trump on the repuglican right LOL "

Oh and, what and where have your free speech rights been taken away?

Also, what "strange radical agendas:? Please name them.

 

Edited August 24 by ExFlyer

[herbie]

5 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Unfortunately Canada is run by radical left activists who dominate all mainstream political parties,

Deserving of even less credibility than birdbrain....

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

If you are calling the left narcissistic...how do you account for Trump on the repuglican right LOL

More of the I know you are but what am I childish mentality of those that purport to be conservatives. As with other things those that proclaim loudest, are the least.

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Deserving of even less credibility than birdbrain....

More of the I know you are but what am I childish mentality of those that purport to be conservatives. As with other things those that proclaim loudest, are the least.

So lost

[Five of swords]

On 8/23/2024 at 12:24 AM, blackbird said:

"

Because it has chosen narcissism as its foundation for faith, the Democratic Party has cast out whatever Christian elements it may have once had.

On Friday, former President Donald Trump spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention, in which he said, “How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” 

Given the values and beliefs held dearest by the Democratic Party, it is hard not to agree. Radicals have gradually pushed it further left, which has also been shifting the goalposts of society in a more secular direction ever since the Progressive Era of the late 19th century. 

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.

The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. "

Christianity is incompatible with the Democratic Party - Washington Examiner

The liberals and NDP are the equivalent of the Democratic party in the U.S.  They hold pretty much the same belief systems.

This is how the western world which was once far more of a Judeo-Christian society is under attack.

There are more homosexuals in the gop than the dnc

[taxme]

On 8/24/2024 at 8:35 AM, ExFlyer said:

The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US.

If you are calling the left narcissistic...how do you account for Trump on the repuglican right LOL

Neigh-neigh. Giddy-up, boy. 😬

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

Neigh-neigh. Giddy-up, boy. 😬

What a pathetic feeble post.

What end of your rocking horse is that bit of wisdom coming from LOL

[herbie]

On 8/22/2024 at 9:24 PM, blackbird said:

“How any Christian can vote for a Democrat, Christian or person of faith, how you can vote for a Democrat is crazy.” 

Said the convicted criminal, sexual predator, fraudster, man that added a nationalist testament to the Bibles he hawks for profit and can't even hold right side up.
How can a Christian vote anything other than Democrat and think themselves a Christian at all?

Edited August 25 by herbie

[blackbird]

What you say about Trump does not change the nature of the Democratic Party. What the Democratic party supports  speaks for itself.

"

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct from yet complementary to one another. 

By destroying marriage and the distinctions of the sexes, the party helped craft sexual activity into a vital expression of choice and liberation. These are the party values over the Christian practices of restraint and modesty. It has removed the incentives to abstain from sex and promoted perverse sexual behavior. In doing so, it has helped to normalize sexual depravity.

The idol of abortion also affirms the desire of the Democratic Party to exempt society from taking responsibility for its actions. By dehumanizing children as “parasites” and framing abortion as a right, the party encourages people to blame others for their decisions to have sex. This is despite Christians asserting that all life is sacred and formed by God upon conception. "

Why would anyone support this kind of depravity?  I don't see the Republican Party into all this stuff.

Edited August 26 by blackbird

[August1991]

On 8/23/2024 at 12:24 AM, blackbird said:

...

The Democratic Party has fully embraced feminism and its natural descendent, the LGBT movement. Both have propagated the idea that men and women are indistinguishable. This justifies the party’s attempts to mix and match the roles of the two sexes in society. They are opposed to the Christian idea that man and woman were made distinct

....

Here, I disagree, Feminism - to my mind - is that the State should be blind to a person's sex, gender, whatever.

===

Christian idea? Here too I disagree. Religions call this marriage. Don't call this mayonnaise when there are no real eggs. Salad dressing, it is.

[CdnFox]

On 8/24/2024 at 7:18 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I'm two seconds in and I stopped reading.

Awww.... do we need to get you to a safe space  

Weren't you the one who JUST said "If you're not willing to engage in politics because you reject values that aren't identical to yours, then there's no point. "?

I guess what you're saying is ... you're kinda pointless.    

Do better. 

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

Weren't you the one who JUST said "If you're not willing to engage in politics because you reject values that aren't identical to yours, then there's no point. "?

 

Well, yes.

Do you think that people who espouse views left of yours are unreasonable maniacs?  I don't.

So..

When people start out a post demonizing an entire block of their countrymen they're saying that they don't believe in politics, in effect.  And I block them because it isn't worth my time.

You discuss things, presumably because you are looking for some good points in your opponent's posts.

[blackbird]

On 8/24/2024 at 10:25 AM, ExFlyer said:

As I said "The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US. "

Really.  You must mean Canada is much further left than the U.S.  which is a fact.

We have had carbon taxes for years now.  I don't think the U.S. ever dared to put carbon taxes on people. 

Canada seems to be a leader in interventionist type of policies.  That has scared away a lot of investment and helped drive up the price of everything.

Canada seems to be a leader on MAID (medical assistance in dying or assisted suicide).  Another Marxist policy.

The government imposed a tanker ban on the B.C. north coast and they banned the construction of several major pipelines.  Again government intervention in a major way.

Canada brings in mass immigration from the third world without any regard to culture or our historic Judeo-Christian civilization.  There is very little assimilation of these third world immigrants.  They pretty well stay in their own ethnic groups.  Each group thinks differently and supports their own culture.  We are losing what historic Judeo-Christian culture we ever had.  Now we are a conglomeration of foreign cultures that do not mix.

We are a post-national state which blindly follows the U.N.

Canada is much further left than the U.S.  

[ExFlyer]

43 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Really.  You must mean Canada is much further left than the U.S.  which is a fact.

.....

Canada is much further left than the U.S.  

Read my post again.

I said "The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US.

I did not say who was left or right, I said they are different than in the US.

So, your blather is once again, useless. LOL

 

[blackbird]

On 8/24/2024 at 10:25 AM, ExFlyer said:

As I said "The "left" and "right" in Canada is far far from the the US. "

 

7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I did not say who was left or right, I said they are different than in the US.

You didn't explain what you mean at all.  Nobody knows what you are saying.

So who is blathering?

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

 

You didn't explain what you mean at all.  Nobody knows what you are saying.

So who is blathering?

Not that I have to, but in the US the right have Trump and we have no equivalent here in Canada. If that is not clear, then you are full of biblical BS....oh wait, you are LOL

You are blathering...again LOL