I Need to Ask Millennials--Why Are your Kids so Awful?

[Michael Hardner]

And let's talk about how Republicans never point this fact out.... 

Breast implants for children approved by parents... 

https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2022/9/28/more-teens-get-breast-implants-trans-top-surgery

 

Probably because it's rich Republicans buying their kids t1ts...

[DUI_Offender]

9 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

One of my nephews will have epic meltdowns if he isn't provided pasta. No toppings. Just plain.

I would rather eat rice cakes. That latter world is shamefully false advertising.

Look at suicide rates. Amount of kids chopping their balls off. T**s off.

This isn't just a "worse than the last" generation.

Suicide rates have pretty much remained unchanged, and increase at the same rate as the  North American population. As for men removing their testicles, I am unsure where one would get their stats from, but my guess is operations to do that were unavailable to the public until after the sexual revolution. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Have you produced a cite yet? Okay 

... it's like getting blood from a stone...

And please something relevant to your claim, the kids are getting their genitals removed.

I didn't ask for that... 

Now you're moving somebody else's goal posts? 

 

What are you talkin' about?

You asked how many...I showed you.

Edited August 31 by Nationalist

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

the kids are getting their genitals removed

Where did I mention kids getting their entire genitalia removed? You can't even troll properly.

[Guest]

16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

As for men removing their testicles, I am unsure where one would get their stats from

A more telling stat in my opinion, would be those reversing the sex reassignment surgery.

Quite a few famous influencers have come out, citing regret.

Another, would be looking at the sheer volume of youth battling mental health issues. Drug addiction. Suicidal ideation.

[TreeBeard]

Everyone’s kids are awful to older generations.   Why should you think any differently about younger generations than your grandparents’ generation thought about you?

[Guest]

On 9/1/2024 at 7:19 PM, TreeBeard said:

Everyone’s kids are awful to older generations.   Why should you think any differently about younger generations than your grandparents’ generation thought about you?

I would look at how much worse each generation was. How extreme.

Yes, it is a common view point, but I would want to know how accurate that it was or which generation afterwards was the worst one, ultimately.

[impartialobserver]

What I laugh at when it comes to this whole , "my generation was great and the ones after that are cr_p" line is that they always conveniently forget that the world is not the same for these kids. When I grew up in the 80's, there was no public internet, cell phones were clunky and mostly impractical, the 3 major networks ruled the airwaves, and life moved at a much slower pace.

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

What I laugh at when it comes to this whole , "my generation was great and the ones after that are cr_p" line ..

Me too, since so many here appear to be younger 🤣 

[Guest]

13 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

What I laugh at when it comes to this whole , "my generation was great and the ones after that are cr_p"

No such thing as a great generation. All generations had their issues.

However, I think its a fair judgment to make, that something is deeply troubling about a generation, when it is statistically demonstrable.

IE our reading ability declining, when other G7 countries have seen such skills increase.

Basic comprehension skills.

Loneliness, and many other metrics that point to socially inept, and academically stunted individuals. 

Am not even touching up on many other issues.

You can't expect anything good to come about a participation trophy generation.

Look at crime. You don't have to deal with consequences in the same way. What do you expect?

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

No such thing as a great generation. All generations had their issues.

However, I think its a fair judgment to make, that something is deeply troubling about a generation, when it is statistically demonstrable.

IE our reading ability declining, when other G7 countries have seen such skills increase.

Basic comprehension skills.

Loneliness, and many other metrics that point to socially inept, and academically stunted individuals. 

Am not even touching up on many other issues.

You can't expect anything good to come about a participation trophy generation.

Look at crime. You don't have to deal with consequences in the same way. What do you expect?

I agree that statistics are a valid starting point.  

( By the way, have you got any regarding literacy?)

But participation trophies have been around for 40 years now. 

You can't make the jump from observation to cause just by saying so.

[impartialobserver]

10 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

No such thing as a great generation. All generations had their issues.

However, I think its a fair judgment to make, that something is deeply troubling about a generation, when it is statistically demonstrable.

IE our reading ability declining, when other G7 countries have seen such skills increase.

Basic comprehension skills.

Loneliness, and many other metrics that point to socially inept, and academically stunted individuals. 

Am not even touching up on many other issues.

You can't expect anything good to come about a participation trophy generation.

Look at crime. You don't have to deal with consequences in the same way. What do you expect?

Your simplistic perspective is that it is due to faulty morals and ethics alone. They live in a different world than you did growing up. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Your simplistic perspective is that it is due to faulty morals and ethics alone.

Parenting, teaching in school, lack of socialization. A common fear of consequences, socially. Whether its crime, when failing. 

There are so many metrics in play.

[Goddess]

Make of this what you will:

Sex offending rate of women: 3 per one million

Sex offending rate of men: 395 per million

Sex offending rates of transwomen: 1,916 per million

Source in screenshot.

[impartialobserver]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Parenting, teaching in school, lack of socialization. A common fear of consequences, socially. Whether its crime, when failing. 

There are so many metrics in play.

and none of this is affected by the ubiquity of the internet, smart phones, automation, etc?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

and none of this is affected by the ubiquity of the internet, smart phones, automation, etc?

We have poorly socialized kids. 

We have a loneliness epidemic. Not among seniors, but among some of the youngest in our society.

Social media creates a disconnect.

You need to socialize as a child, to build key skills like empathy. Communication. 

Lacking among many kids. No surprise there are so many school shootings in the US. Its not a gun issue. 

[impartialobserver]

16 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

We have poorly socialized kids. 

We have a loneliness epidemic. Not among seniors, but among some of the youngest in our society.

Social media creates a disconnect.

You need to socialize as a child, to build key skills like empathy. Communication. 

Lacking among many kids. No surprise there are so many school shootings in the US. Its not a gun issue. 

So then it is not purely an issue of moral superiority on your part and them being inferior.. the environment that they are growing up in is not the same so expecting the same outcomes is foolish. 

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

the environment that they are growing up in is not the same so expecting the same outcomes is

Ok, so if as an employer am noticing high entitlement.  Lack of reliability. High unrealistic expectations.  

Employment agencies are noting this, so its not in my mind. 

So me saying anything about it, is me feeling am morally superior?

Vs pointing out something I have seen personally, and have heard loud industrial echo about?

Not only this, have seen national employment firms pointing to this issue.

So its an environment issue?

Are you serious?

I grew up among the city slums. People see people like me, like trash, based on environment. 

How am I now, nowhere near this environment. My behavior has evolved from it?

Moral superiority? Or the fact your environment can't be used as an excuse, when those preceding you who came from the same environment,  aren't showing the same issues.

[impartialobserver]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Ok, so if as an employer am noticing high entitlement.  Lack of reliability. High unrealistic expectations.  

Employment agencies are noting this, so its not in my mind. 

So me saying anything about it, is me feeling am morally superior?

Vs pointing out something I have seen personally, and have heard loud industrial echo about?

Not only this, have seen national employment firms pointing to this issue.

So its an environment issue?

Are you serious?

I grew up among the city slums. People see people like me, like trash, based on environment. 

How am I now, nowhere near this environment. My behavior has evolved from it?

Moral superiority? Or the fact your environment can't be used as an excuse, when those preceding you who came from the same environment,  aren't showing the same issues.

The environment in this case is not just a neighborhood or city.. Its the entire planet. I love how folks like you call it excuses when I point out simple objective reality. its 90 degrees here in Carson City..but by your logic, I am whining about the heat. Too funny

[Guest]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Its the entire planet.

So why is this behavior more extreme in parts of the planet than others?

Good luck behaving like this in a place where this isn't tolerated. 

Good luck stealing a luxury car, and getting slapped on the wrists in say, Texas or countries where this isn't tolerated. You would get a bullet between the eyes.

The environment you are pointing to, is conducive to the behavior, and no. Its not a global issue.

There are plenty of countries where merit is still a thing. 

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

its 90 degrees here in Carson City

This is you stating a fact.

Anyone with common sense could see it. If you went on to gripe about summer being too long, it being too hot, then this could be taken differently.

I don't think I am the one with the logic issue.

 

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

So why is this behavior more extreme in parts of the planet than others?

Good luck behaving like this in a place where this isn't tolerated. 

Good luck stealing a luxury car, and getting slapped on the wrists in say, Texas or countries where this isn't tolerated. You would get a bullet between the eyes.

The environment you are pointing to, is conducive to the behavior, and no. Its not a global issue.

There are plenty of countries where merit is still a thing. 

This is you stating a fact.

Anyone with common sense could see it. If you went on to gripe about summer being too long, it being too hot, then this could be taken differently.

I don't think I am the one with the logic issue.

 

Your whole schtick is that that the kids of millenials are inferior. And yet you fail to take into account that they do not live in the same environment/conditions as you did. We are products of our environment mostly with some genetics built in. 

[Michael Hardner]

35 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Your whole schtick is that that the kids of millenials are inferior. And yet you fail to take into account that they do not live in the same environment/conditions as you did. We are products of our environment mostly with some genetics built in. 

The whole "blaming" thing is very low-brow to me.

Blaming other generations, blaming cultural groups, blaming political ideologies even.

Good politics should cross demographic lines to produce best of breed solutions...

[Goddess]

Child psychologists who weren't captured by Pharma predicted that the prolonged school closures would negatively affect children and teens.  This was ignored, of course.  Or minimized.

 

Ready or not, here they come – Winnipeg Free Press

More children are showing up to kindergarten without being fully potty trained, knowing how to share with others and meeting early development milestones.

That’s according to the first study of school readiness in Manitoba in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

“A slightly higher percentage of children in this cohort than earlier cohorts is not quite developmentally where they should be for their age,” said Magdalena Janus, a professor and researcher at the Offord Centre and co-developer of the EDI.

Janus noted some aspects of children’s behaviour, including aggressive outbursts, are impacted by “social learning,” meaning they come to understand what is and is not appropriate by interacting with peers.

The most significant slide happened in students’ abilities to concentrate on tasks, help others, show patience and regulate their emotions and aggression. The drop in boys’ readiness is marginally greater than the one between the pre-pandemic and mid-pandemic cohorts of girls.

While cautioning against panic, the researcher said the latest data should prompt schools to keep a “very watchful eye” on local development indicators and make programming adjustments accordingly.

“The EDI vulnerabilities are highly predictive of later academic success,” she added.

“If we have slightly higher percentages of children who are vulnerable in language and cognitive development in kindergarten, it’s quite likely that there will be slightly higher percentages of these children struggling with aspects of reading and mathematics in Grade 3 or 4, but that doesn’t mean that has to happen.”

This will be quite a burden for teachers and for society in the years to come.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 This was ignored, of course.  Or minimized.

Why do you think that ?  Parents were quite worried about it.  I was.  But we didn't know how bad Covid would be on them either.

It's pretty near-sighted to look back at everything and frame it as the powers that be forcing ideas on us.  We were all Googling and looking at what was happening it and discussing it - everywhere.

 

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

We were all Googling and looking at what was happening it and discussing it - everywhere.

I guess that distraction explains why so many kids went without potty training.