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Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of foreign workers | Financial Post

Youth unemployment at highest level in over a decade outside of COVID-19 pandemic

 

Entry-level jobs for students and recent graduates are much harder to find as the economy weakens, yet the country has also imported hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers for jobs, many of them in the food and retail sectors.

That’s contributing to a soaring rate of youth unemployment. Two years ago, the jobless rate for people 15 to 24 years old was a little over nine per cent. Now it’s 14.2 per cent — the highest level in more than a decade outside of the COVID-19 pandemic.

An analysis of government data by Bloomberg News shows explosive growth in the number of temporary foreign workers in food and retail over the past five years. The number of them approved to work in those two sectors jumped 211 per cent between 2019 and 2023.

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I'm sure there's an economic case for TFWs in Fast Food.  But people should generally understand it and support it, in a democracy.

I studied Economics and Business, and while I generally get what a rationale might be... I don't have a good feeling about it.

 

The real question is... why doesn't the public understand that program and see any benefit whatsoever?

Our Public Sphere is ailing...

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-tfw-program-canada-low-wages/

 

A good article that highlights the impact of lobbying efforts to get enhancements to the TFW programs for the past few governments.

 

Trudeau wrote an op-ed criticising the excesses of the program, then supercharged it when in office...

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They're busy spreading the myth of "Cheap foreign workers" as being "paid less" and exempt from any labour laws.
It's not the fact some employers rip them off, but the myth govt lets them so they don't have to hire locals.

And as for the farm workers, you now pay 5X more for a handful of berries than we got for picking a whole flat back in high school. Go find THE young local student that would work for that. KFC and McDonalds here has trouble finding them at $17.40 an hour. My own kid did 11 years at 7-11 asst manager and worked her way to almost as much as I earned when she was f*cking born.
We gave preference to any kid who's resume included a couple years at MsDonalds as that meant they knew how to eat shit and that j-o-b and f-u-n are totally different things.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

A good article that highlights the impact of lobbying efforts to get enhancements to the TFW programs for the past few governments.

Trudeau wrote an op-ed criticising the excesses of the program, then supercharged it when in office...

Lobbyists...shouldn't they by rights be littering the bottom of the sea at least as thickly as lawyers? I know there's good ones too but sheesh...

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm sure there's an economic case for TFWs in Fast Food.  But people should generally understand it and support it, in a democracy.

Poilievre says lobbyists are useless unless they lobby the electorate directly, while he's still hosting lobbyists directly behind closed doors and at his fundraisers.  You're right about what people should do but so many would probably still freak out. 

Right-wingers have to struggle so hard to woke up and I suppose its why there really is no such thing as a simple miracle.

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It's happening. I work at a manufacturing plant that has been taken over by a certain ethnic group. Canadian born Caucasians are the enemy (unless it is the owner or manager). The new Canadians don;t respect Canadian laws or our way of life, taking in their language, and sticking to their own kind.

Keep in mind, this excludes Ukrainians, as they are assimilating. I'm taking about all the Asians coming in here. They only know one thing- the iron fist. It's sad, really. The only way they listen, is if we use our size, and get in their faces. Otherwise they would push us all around.

F**k Trudeau for not sticking with the time tested "allow 1% of the current population- 400,000 to come in, and continue to prosper. Instead he allows 4x that much, and we don;t have the infrastructure to support them. They also will literally work anywhere for under $20, so they drive wages down. Time to close the borders for 3 years, and go from there. 

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1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

I work at a manufacturing plant that has been taken over by a certain ethnic group.

The trucking industry is having big problems with a certain ethnic group, too.

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I heard how a group of TFWs were brought in to work in some kind of mill.  They paid thousands of dollars to be brought in and were promised $30 an hour.  They were not paid that.  They were given accommodations worse than for animals.  They washed their dishes in a ditch.  The place stunk like a sewer.  A charity organization rescued them and put them up in a shelter in another town.  How is this allowed to happen in Canada?  I think the government is negligent.  Some TFWs are treated like slave labour and live in inhumane conditions.

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35 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The trucking industry is having big problems with a certain ethnic group, too.

Not going to say which group, but I know what you mean. was employed in construction in Calgary. We took turns one day each guiding trucks into the construction zone. Canadians who went through Gov't approved trucking schools, were easy, and would require little effort. However, ethnic group "X"  were all trained in fly-by-night trucking "schools" usually of the same ethnic group, and were taught next-to-nothing, as long as their cheque cleared, they were given their diploma. It was a job in itself spotting these drivers, as I often thought I could drive better than them, given a few hours training.

Keep in mind, this was a few months after the Humboldt tragedy, and there were drivers who went to the same Calgary trucking school, that trained the person responsible for the bus crash that killed all those teenage hockey players. The most ridiculous thing was, that the owner of the trucking school was forced to close down, opened a new school a week later, and AFAIK, is still in operation.

Trudeau did absolutely nothing to clamp down on this. 

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4 hours ago, Boges said:

Tim Hortons is always hiring. 

https://www.careers.timhortons.ca/

How many Caucasians or second generation Canadians does Tim Hortons hire? They make up 5-10% of the company workforce.  None of these companies (i.e Walmart, McDonalds, etc) want Canadian born, and especially Canadian-born White people, since we know our rights, and know how the system works.

These companies hire new Canadians, mainly from 3rd World countries, since they have no idea how our system works, and are used to horrible retaliation, if they express displeasure with working conditions. Companies know this, and will hire new Canadians over born Canadians, since most people born here won't be pushed around too much.

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4 hours ago, Legato said:

Only if you speak Punjabi or Urdu.

II find Filipinas good at customer service. They are 100x better than East Indians. 

 

In my experience at Tim Hortons or McDonalds drive ins, in order of best-to-worst:

1. Filipinos

2. Caucasians

3. East Indians

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16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Not going to say which group, but I know what you mean. was employed in construction in Calgary. We took turns one day each guiding trucks into the construction zone. Canadians who went through Gov't approved trucking schools, were easy, and would require little effort. However, ethnic group "X"  were all trained in fly-by-night trucking "schools" usually of the same ethnic group, and were taught next-to-nothing, as long as their cheque cleared, they were given their diploma. It was a job in itself spotting these drivers, as I often thought I could drive better than them, given a few hours training.

Keep in mind, this was a few months after the Humboldt tragedy, and there were drivers who went to the same Calgary trucking school, that trained the person responsible for the bus crash that killed all those teenage hockey players. The most ridiculous thing was, that the owner of the trucking school was forced to close down, opened a new school a week later, and AFAIK, is still in operation.

Trudeau did absolutely nothing to clamp down on this. 

Yup.  This article is from 2021, so it's likely worse now. Trucking accidents up 40% in just Ontario alone.

(Sorry, for some reason the link won't copy/paste for me.  You'll have to google the article.  And there's other articles on it, too.)

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I have a friend who is a heavy duty mechanic, works on the big rigs.  They turn down working on a lot of trucks because they cut holes in the floor to 💩 out of.  He says the bottoms are caked in feces, it's so gross, they just refuse to work on them.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Yup.  This article is from 2021, so it's likely worse now. Trucking accidents up 40% in just Ontario alone.

(Sorry, for some reason the link won't copy/paste for me.  You'll have to google the article.  And there's other articles on it, too.)

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I have a friend who is a heavy duty mechanic, works on the big rigs.  They turn down working on a lot of trucks because they cut holes in the floor to 💩 out of.  He says the bottoms are caked in feces, it's so gross, they just refuse to work on them.

 

 

A couple of times i've had it where the forum won't let me paste a link and i have no idea why .  Most of the time it's no issue. The link pastes fine when i try it elsewhere, it's not the link.  Just this weird little glitch that pops up once in a blue moon. 

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Most of the time it's no issue.

Ya, it happens occasionally.  Not an issue except there's always one bonehead here who demands the actual link because google is too difficult for them, then ignores it when I spend 20 mins trying to make the link work 🙄

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Trudeau was surprised by this news. Apparently, after almost 10 years on the job, he's still just learning the basics.

"Import cheap labour, drive the cost of labour down."  

Trudeau: "Huh? Who knew?"

Not only do they drive the cost of labour here down:

  1. if 10 Canadians work up north and bring in $1M, the majority of that money gets spent in Canada, creating spin-off jobs and driving our economy.
  2. if 10 temporary foreign workers do that work for $700K, the vast majority of that money gets spent somewhere else, creating spin-off jobs and driving the economies of foreign nations.  

If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. 

Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. 

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23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Trudeau was surprised by this news. Apparently, after almost 10 years on the job, he's still just learning the basics.

"Import cheap labour, drive the cost of labour down."  

Trudeau: "Huh? Who knew?"

Not only do they drive the cost of labour here down:

  1. if 10 Canadians work up north and bring in $1M, the majority of that money gets spent in Canada, creating spin-off jobs and driving our economy.
  2. if 10 temporary foreign workers do that work for $700K, the vast majority of that money gets spent somewhere else, creating spin-off jobs and driving the economies of foreign nations.  

It's not even good for the workers in many cases. 

Canada Immigration Scams Are Costing Migrant Workers Their Life Savings - Bloomberg

Desperate for a chance at a new beginning, newcomers are paying tens of thousands of dollars for mainly low-level jobs

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20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's not even good for the workers in many cases. 

Canada Immigration Scams Are Costing Migrant Workers Their Life Savings - Bloomberg

Desperate for a chance at a new beginning, newcomers are paying tens of thousands of dollars for mainly low-level jobs

Oh great, we're Dubai now....

 

Please tell me we're not withholding their passports and forcing them to stay... or keeping them here past their 'release date' and forcing them to work like Kamala's prisoners.

If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. 

Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. 

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17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Oh great, we're Dubai now....

 

Please tell me we're not withholding their passports and forcing them to stay... or keeping them here past their 'release date' and forcing them to work like Kamala's prisoners.

Ok.  I won't tell you about that then :) 

 

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23 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of foreign workers | Financial Post

Youth unemployment at highest level in over a decade outside of COVID-19 pandemic

 

Entry-level jobs for students and recent graduates are much harder to find as the economy weakens, yet the country has also imported hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers for jobs, many of them in the food and retail sectors.

That’s contributing to a soaring rate of youth unemployment. Two years ago, the jobless rate for people 15 to 24 years old was a little over nine per cent. Now it’s 14.2 per cent — the highest level in more than a decade outside of the COVID-19 pandemic.

An analysis of government data by Bloomberg News shows explosive growth in the number of temporary foreign workers in food and retail over the past five years. The number of them approved to work in those two sectors jumped 211 per cent between 2019 and 2023.

Well that was a huge part of the whole motive for immigration so I guess it is just working as intended

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2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Well that was a huge part of the whole motive for immigration so I guess it is just working as intended

It seems there are jobs, for young people ,but doing them seem to be beneath them.

Seems immigrants realize they need to work and they do. They take those jobs because they need to and don't have Mommy and Daddy providing for them.

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There's no postal home delivery here, like in many small towns. Everyone goes to the Post Office to get mail, amazon pkgs, etc.
It was closed all day Monday because of worker shortage. You could get to your mailbox, but not the counter for packages or services.
Went back Tuesday, the Postmaster was working all by herself, catching up on two days work....
The supermarket had one out of three tills open and a lineup of 15 or so people.
The Subway has 3 TFWs and is the only place you can get food after 7pm in the whole town. The last TFW crew from there all got permanent status, with references from local people and now man Service BC and are at the banks.
Some of those jobs were posted Canada wide for over a year and nobody applied, nor anybody local with better qualifications than the TFWs.

They want to work, they have to work. Unlike the last two local hires that I could've short paid if I wanted to as all they ever looked at on their pay stubs was their EI qualifying hours. Hell, they both thought they got a "raise" when the company stopped deducting MSP after their probation period.

The TFWs rent a house that was empty from people I know, they bought phone chargers and parts in my store, clothes and supplies from the local stores and sell home made Filipino, Mexican and Indian foods at the Farmers Market on Fridays.
And they're criticized for sending money home to their Mom by people who shop at WalMart and cross the border to buy gas. Who's the "good" Canadians?

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