Dictators destabilizing world

[Deluge]

20 hours ago, myata said:

Putin set out to do way more that grab a piece of the neighbor country, more even than controlling it. His plan and intent was to do away with the order in world that is based on rules and law. And his plan and influence is already spreading through the world as poisonous emanations. Coups in Africa, that at some point were seemingly sliding into the forgotten past. Dictators throughout the world blatantly stealing elections and using extreme force to quell protests: Bjelorus, Iran, most recently, Venezuela. Each of these cases and examples is building up stepping stones for the new order of aggressive totalitarian dictatorships. And a bunch of aspiring thugs and dictators are watching it closely.

That can be done to stem the trend? First and primarily: admit the reality. Words did not change it and cannot change anything. We need to stop making excuses, take and understand things for what they are. And it begins with honesty. Anyone who tries or will try to undermine democratic election or usurp the power in any other way is a dictator and needs to be treated as such. No, there's no middle ground and half-tones. Nothing is gained by shrugging such facts and precedents away or trivializing them. It has real, serious consequences that are already spreading in the world and they can be worse.

Putin's the least of our problems. It's the woke, Orwellian globalist a$$holes, that are the real threat to liberty. 

Edited August 12, 2024 by Deluge

[myata]

Well you heard it, what's there to add? Hitler of our time "the least of problems". Democracy is (in that universe)

[User]

28 minutes ago, myata said:

Well you heard it, what's there to add? Hitler of our time "the least of problems". Democracy is (in that universe)

The only thing we hear is your absurd nonsense about "Hitler of our time" when you can't even get basic facts right and run away when corrected. 

Keep running. 

[Deluge]

30 minutes ago, myata said:

Well you heard it, what's there to add? Hitler of our time "the least of problems". Democracy is (in that universe)

I'm sorry, comrade, but despite what your groomers have told you, Democracy & Marxism are not one and the same.  

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, myata said:

You're being dishonest and my patience is running low when folks are showing deliberately dishonest behavior. You are stating an assertion at best, more likely: a lie as a fact and that is dishonest. "Meddling" does not mean a free and legitimate choice of a European nation. It does not mean giving assistance to them, and especially in defending themselves against a brutal aggression. Dictators, like Putin do not have a veto over the choice of free, independent people. Hitler did not have the right to invade Poland whatever his justifications. Who is it not clear to?

You thinking is your own. Without factual or logical arguments it has no bearing on what others may think. The facts are that he ran away from every single confrontation with dictators. Anti-Isis was an international coalition where US didn't play the main role. He engineered the chaotic transition in Afghanistan by literally pulling the rug from under the existing government. He did nothing to make Vlad observe the international law: his troops were in Ukraine, blatantly violating international law all the time he held the office. All these facts obviously contradict your thoughts and feelings. "Trumps is strong against dictators" is only a myth that he himself pumps. In reality, he cowers (Kim) and runs away (Asad, Vlad, Afghanistan). He said not on one occasion that he would try to appease Vlad - a total equivalent of Hitler in our time, a war criminal under international warrant all facts, at the expense of other people. Where's strength, toughness in this? - a myth, gum bubble - or a plain, blatant lie.

Yes it is. All the instances your quoted were the aftermaths, consequences of WWII and long past. After WWII in Europe and into this century was established the convention and notion of the rules-based order and international law. Putin's invasion not only violated it but effectively broke it - it doesn't exist anymore how could it? In what world will we and our children live from now on, if this kind of behavior becomes acceptable and normal?

Who are those "guys"? No need to respond to vague musings.

Why would anyone sane respond to every piece sh*t one could pull from somewhere? Do you believe everything that you hear or read? Turning your brain off isn't great for you, as learned by generations.

And so, if you're still living in this, rational and real universe you have to pick one, the facts or insinuations and imaginations. No they don't work together very well.

 

Perhaps you and MH should retreat to your 'safe space'.

[myata]

8 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Perhaps you and MH should retreat to your 'safe space'.

The only ones retreating here are the dead brains into their imaginary universe. OK no meaningful responses, so noted.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Perhaps you and MH should retreat to your 'safe space'.

I love how do many on here think they're discussing something with me!

I'm not even on this thread!

[myata]

For the real situation with military aid to Ukraine one can check AP fact check and Congressional reports.

It is true that Trump initiated direct U.S. state military assistance to Ukraine; it is not true that it was the first lethal aid to Ukraine, nor that it has any decisive impact. Ukraine military assistance funding, in two streams remained mostly constant across Obama and Trump administrations (Congress report). While aid flowed to Ukraine during Trump years he's done nothing extraordinary halting Russia's aggression and making it respect the international law.

It's a different conversation about Obama's position on Russia's first invasion and lethal aid. But it was characteristic of the Western wishful thinking in that period and hardly partisan. The roots of Russia's first aggression against Ukraine in 2014 go to its invasion of Georgia in 2008, for which it escape all responsibility and that was under Republican G.W. Bush administration.

[User]

13 minutes ago, myata said:

The only ones retreating here are the dead brains into their imaginary universe. OK no meaningful responses, so noted.

Keep running.

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I love how do many on here think they're discussing something with me!

I'm not even on this thread!

No, just pointing out that you hide from people on here. 

[ironstone]

19 minutes ago, myata said:

The only ones retreating here are the dead brains into their imaginary universe. OK no meaningful responses, so noted.

I wanted to see how Kamala Harris would describe the root causes and nuances of the Russia/Ukraine war.  Oh.....now I completely understand the situation in much greater detail.🤔

[myata]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

how Kamala Harris

Aka bullsh*t. That is, no answers. It's sad to see seemingly reasonable folks hand over their brains voluntarily and in good faith but oh well. Happens all the time. What can you do.

[User]

10 minutes ago, myata said:

Aka bullsh*t. That is, no answers. It's sad to see seemingly reasonable folks hand over their brains voluntarily and in good faith but oh well. Happens all the time. What can you do.

You are not reasonable. I gave you a detailed response refuting what you said yesterday, and you ran away. 

 

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, myata said:

Aka bullsh*t. That is, no answers. It's sad to see seemingly reasonable folks hand over their brains voluntarily and in good faith but oh well. Happens all the time. What can you do.

Must you always be such a drip? Is there no thought process at all going on in your head? I mean really myata...Hitler...Putin...Trump. that's the extent of you timid little mind?

Edited August 12, 2024 by Nationalist