blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) This link is about the horrors of abortion. Did you know preborn babies feel the pain of abortion? Horrors Of Abortion! (jesus-is-savior.com) " Satan is laughing at all the gullible women who kill their own baby. “I was told a lie from the pit of hell: that my baby was just a blob of tissue. The aftermath of abortion can be equally deadly for both mother and unborn child. A woman who has an abortion is sentenced to bear that for the rest of her life.” —Actor Jennifer O'Neill Planned Parenthood Doctor Admits To Selling Aborted Baby Body Parts (Disturbing Video!) “Thou shalt not kill.” —Exodus 20:13 Planned Parenthood Caught Red-Handed Selling Baby Body Parts! (Hell will be hot enough!) Psalms 36:1, “The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.” The American Holocaust: Abortion http://www.lovethetruth.com/jis_images/slaughtered_child-abortion.jpg Satan Laughs as mothers murder their own babies in the name of “freedom of choice”; Please notice that the Holy Bible says “THE BABE LEAPED,” not the fetus... Luke 1:44, “For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.” Black Lives Matter Hypocrites Say Its Okay To Kill Lives In The Womb, But Not On The Street! Edited August 4, 2024 by blackbird 1 1 Quote
zzbulls Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 It's a lot of evil in this world. I can understand abortion for rape and incense. Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 I think you're doing a grave disservice to people, by only posting propaganda. Human fetuses cannot feel pain at a certain level of its development. A Canadian abortion is considered legal, below that threshold. Removing a woman's right to her body, isn't progress. In fact, you're essentially better aligning yourself with a developing nation where those rights are unexistent. News flash. Women who are desperate, will still be willing to pay a quack doctor under the table to remove the fetus. This is quite common in countries where abortion is illegal, and highly lucrative. This makes a relatively safe procedure become a harrowing and very deadly nightmare. Especially if the woman experienced the trauma of rape. Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: I think you're doing a grave disservice to people, by only posting propaganda. Defending human life is not propaganda. Murdering pre-born babies is genocide. Defending it is promoting evil and killing of the innocent. 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Human fetuses cannot feel pain at a certain level of its development. 1st TRIMESTER @ 18 days: ***Eyes start to develop. (2) @ 20 days: ***Foundations of brain, spinal cord and nervous system are laid. (2) @ 24 days: ***Heart begins to beat. (2) @ 28 days: ***Muscles are developing along the future spine. Arms and legs are budding. (2) @ 30 days: ***Brain has human proportions. (2) @ 35 days: ***Pituitary gland in brain is forming. Mouth, ears and nose are taking shape. (2) @ 6-7 weeks: ***Brain coordinates movement of muscles and organs. Reflex responses have begun. (2) ***Brain waves detected. (2,3,4) @ 8 weeks: ***“…the neuro-anatomic structures are present…. [a] a sensory nerve to feel the pain and send a message to [b] the thalamus… and [c] motor nerves that send a message to that area… The pain impulse goes to the thalamus. It sends a signal down the motor nerves to pull away from the hurt.” (5) ***Sticking the fetus in the palm of the hand with a sharp object causes him to open his mouth and pull his hand away. (5) ***Lip tactile response may be evoked (2,5) ***Spontaneous movements have begun. (2,3,6) ***Taste buds are forming. (2) ***Steady heartbeat heard with an ultrasound stethoscope. (7) @ 9 weeks: ***Eyelids are sensitive to touch. (2) ***Child will bend fingers around an object placed in the palm. (2,7) ***Thumb sucking occurs. (2,8) @ 10 weeks: ***Body is sensitive to touch. Child squints, swallows, puckers up brow and frowns. (2,4) ***More body movement observed, such as jumping. (8) @ 11 weeks: ***Face and the upper and lower extremities are sensitive to touch. (5) ***Makes some facial expressions, such as smiling. (2) ***Makes a fist. (4) @ 12 weeks: ***Squinting is observed. (7) ***Draws knees up to the chest. Kicking begins. (2,9) ***Arms wiggle and head moves. (9) ***Leaps about in uterus. (6)" Horrors Of Abortion! (jesus-is-savior.com) Yes they can feel pain. Why wouldn't they. They have nerves and brains the same as any other human. Watch the video on it. One method of abortion is to bring the baby part way down and then stick an instrument into the back of its head with the belief it will be dead when it comes all the way out. This accommodates the law that would prohibit killing the baby after it comes out. 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: A Canadian abortion is considered legal, below that threshold. Making something legal does not make it right or change the fact it is murder and genocide. The Nazis legalized the genocide of the Jews in the gas chambers. That did not change the fact it was still horrendous evil. Canada is largely a heathen country which does not respect the sanctity of human life. We have widespread abortion and now doctor-assisted suicide. We have a failing health care system with reports that 8,000 to 15,000 people die a year waiting for medical care. You can expect the disrespect for the sanctity of life to permeate everything in society. What comes around goes around. 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Removing a woman's right to her body, isn't progress. In fact, you're essentially better aligning yourself with a developing nation where those rights are unexistent. Progress is not murdering babies and assisting people to commit suicide. There is no such thing in God's view of a right to take the life of pre-born babies. What about the right to life of pre-born babies? Canada is on a downward path of darkness and evil. Edited August 4, 2024 by blackbird 1 Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 3 hours ago, blackbird said: Defending human life is not propaganda. Then you should present an objective picture. The good, the bad, the ugly. Otherwise the clear direction you are seeking to push people in, devoid of all facts can only be seen as propaganda. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: Defending it is a promoting evil. How so? Be specific. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: Yes they can feel pain. This is something that is medically refuted. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: Making something legal does not make it right Makes it legal, though. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: What comes around goes around. I think you have that saying backwards, like the propaganda you're peddling. 3 hours ago, blackbird said: God's view God is irrelevant to policy. Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: 5 hours ago, blackbird said: Defending it is a promoting evil. How so? Be specific. It is the murder of humans. God has said "thou shalt not kill" Exodus ch20:13 KJV This has been enshrined in laws throughout history. Killing of humans or murder is evil. Some of the people that do this, when they realize what they have done, suffer mental anguish the rest of their lives because they know what they did is wrong. Those who become Christians receive forgiveness. Edited August 4, 2024 by blackbird 1 Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: God is irrelevant to policy. That is what the Nazis thought. Only to a reprobate, wicked way of thinking could killing humans or genocide be irrelevant.. Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, blackbird said: It is the murder of humans. God has said "thou shalt not kill" Exodus ch20:13 KJV This has been enshrined in laws throughout history. Killing of humans or murder is evil. Some of the people that do this, when they realize what they have done, suffer mental anguish the rest of their lives because they know what they did is wrong. Those who become Christians receive forgiveness. Tell that to the Israelis that have been killing women and children since 7 October but hey, you defend them habitually. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 Only unregenerate people promote killing pre-born babies. It is evil depravity. "1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:1, 2 KJV Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Tell that to the Israelis that have been killing women and children since 7 October but hey, you defend them habitually. There is a war going on there and they are targeting the terrorists who killed 1,200 of their people and took 250 hostages first. They are not targeting innocent people. But the evil Hamas are hiding behind and around other people. Why do you defend Hamas? They must be eliminated because their only aim is to kill Israelis. That is their purpose for being. You with your way of thinking are trying to divert to another subject of course. Edited August 4, 2024 by blackbird 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, blackbird said: There is a war going on t...... You with your way of thinking are trying to divert to another subject of course. Killing is killing. EDIT: Killing babies and kids one way is better than killing them the other way??? Even your book does not differentiate LOL It is your topic...killing. Edited August 4, 2024 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, blackbird said: It is the murder of humans. Your logic, would have a family needing to make the painful choice of pulling the plug on a vegetative relative. Essentially, to you, they are murderers. Extending the life of someone who literally is a drooling mess, would and should be imperative. This isn't about murder, but rather the suppression of rights. I don't agree with abortion, but I agree a woman should legally be entitled to choose what she does with her body. Your view is precisely how some conservative leaders lose the room. 53 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Killing is killing. Basically, if we can't even set the standard on which killing is wrong or right, then it has nothing to do with the act. Everything to do with the desired narrative being targeted. Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Only unregenerate people promote killing pre-born babies. It is evil depravity. Some people notice that you can't apply the same standard to all situations. IE a victim of rape. Telling her that an abortion is murder, is akin to telling her she has less legal say on her body than a person illegally violating it. It defies logic. Just because it says it in a book that was written long ago, doesn't make it fact. Just like seeing a parking sign during heavy flooding. On the sign, you're good to go. The two feet of water, sort of dictates otherwise. Metaphor for adaptation and being pragmatic with solutions that consider the current challenges being faced, vs ones back in a time where people probably f***ed with goat skin condoms. Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: Your logic, would have a family needing to make the painful choice of pulling the plug on a vegetative relative. No that is not what I said. It is not wrong for medical authorities to withdraw extraordinary life support in certain situations. That is not murder. We are not talking about that. Murder is taking steps to actively take someone's life. Assisted suicide is murder because it is actively doing something to end someone's life, such as injecting something that will kill them. Natural death from an incurable medical condition is not the same. Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: Some people notice that you can't apply the same standard to all situations. IE a victim of rape. Telling her that an abortion is murder, is akin to telling her she has less legal say on her body than a person illegally violating it. It defies logic. There is no such thing as a moral right to kill a preborn baby. A depraved government passing a law or enabling the killing of unborn babies and allowing assisted suicide does not make it right. 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: to telling her she has less legal say on her body You are ignoring the baby that she is carrying. That is not her body in the sense she can kill it. That is ridiculous and depraved thinking. Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: EDIT: Killing babies and kids one way is better than killing them the other way??? No, I don't think babies or children should be killed any way and never said they should. It is your depraved mind that is so mixed up. Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, blackbird said: No, I don't think babies or children should be killed any way and never said they should. It is your depraved mind that is so mixed up. Hmmm, you are OK with Israeli bombing.... My "depraved mind"??? Now that is a laugh LOL Killing babies with bombs, rockets and gunfire is OK by you. Edited August 5, 2024 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 First it takes the ability to distinguish between a baby and a fetus. Second it takes a lot of gall for a man to demand he rule on what a woman can do. Third it takes a special kind of stupid to take moral opinions of someone who repeatedly espouses his Christianity but shows none of it at all. 1 1 Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 30 minutes ago, herbie said: First it takes the ability to distinguish between a baby and a fetus. Second it takes a lot of gall for a man to demand he rule on what a woman can do. Third it takes a special kind of stupid to take moral opinions of someone who repeatedly espouses his Christianity but shows none of it at all. How is someone with no morals and is totally depraved able to comment on what is right and wrong? Quote
Five of swords Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 16 hours ago, blackbird said: This link is about the horrors of abortion. Did you know preborn babies feel the pain of abortion? Horrors Of Abortion! (jesus-is-savior.com) " Satan is laughing at all the gullible women who kill their own baby. “I was told a lie from the pit of hell: that my baby was just a blob of tissue. The aftermath of abortion can be equally deadly for both mother and unborn child. A woman who has an abortion is sentenced to bear that for the rest of her life.” —Actor Jennifer O'Neill Planned Parenthood Doctor Admits To Selling Aborted Baby Body Parts (Disturbing Video!) “Thou shalt not kill.” —Exodus 20:13 Planned Parenthood Caught Red-Handed Selling Baby Body Parts! (Hell will be hot enough!) Psalms 36:1, “The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.” The American Holocaust: Abortion http://www.lovethetruth.com/jis_images/slaughtered_child-abortion.jpg Satan Laughs as mothers murder their own babies in the name of “freedom of choice”; Please notice that the Holy Bible says “THE BABE LEAPED,” not the fetus... Luke 1:44, “For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.” Black Lives Matter Hypocrites Say Its Okay To Kill Lives In The Womb, But Not On The Street! So what do you think about your country having a military? Are you going to quote Moses about not killing for that? Quote
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Five of swords said: So what do you think about your country having a military? Are you going to quote Moses about not killing for that? I'm not sure what your point is. A military is necessary to deal with the threats in the world. Sometimes people are killed in military action in defence against evil aggressors and terrorists. We live in an evil wicked world. Quote
Army Guy Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Tell that to the Israelis that have been killing women and children since 7 October but hey, you defend them habitually. I think any nation that goes to war is guilty of the same not just Israel but every nation on the planet as some time in their history....we could include Canada on that list.... I do think there is a huge difference between killing in a war and killing a fetus because teenagers were to stupid or lazy to use birth control...with no consequences, I mean all we really missing at this time is a drive through clinic, that you don't even have to get out of your car....I mean what damage could be done if the baby is carried to term , then given up for adoption, which has long waiting lists...it has economic bonuses as well we grow our population, provide good homes for all these children....the consequences is they carry that baby to term for 9 months... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) Our country is divided and unity is impossible when there is so much evil. Many people hold some kind of secular humanist belief systems which are contrary to our historic Judeo-Christian beliefs. This conflict of beliefs is unlikely to disappear anytime soon. Edited August 4, 2024 by blackbird Quote
taxesanddeath Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 6 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Some people notice that you can't apply the same standard to all situations. IE a victim of rape. Telling her that an abortion is murder, is akin to telling her she has less legal say on her body than a person illegally violating it. It defies logic. Just because it says it in a book that was written long ago, doesn't make it fact. Just like seeing a parking sign during heavy flooding. On the sign, you're good to go. The two feet of water, sort of dictates otherwise. Metaphor for adaptation and being pragmatic with solutions that consider the current challenges being faced, vs ones back in a time where people probably f***ed with goat skin condoms. I consider myself liberal, but I believe we need to revisit abortion once in a while. Anyway, I never understand the "victim of rape" angle. We are in 2024, what happens to the morning-after pill? Quote
Five of swords Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 1 hour ago, blackbird said: I'm not sure what your point is. A military is necessary to deal with the threats in the world. Sometimes people are killed in military action in defence against evil aggressors and terrorists. We live in an evil wicked world. So...thou shalt not kill unless vietnam goes communist? Quote
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