ironstone Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Okay. You're complaining about the efficacy of the status quo in which sanctions are our only leverage, having abandoned the multilateral deal. You are complaining about the result, but you want to blame someone else for the status quo Trump created. Talk about "verbal gymnastics." I repeat, if you didn't like Iran's accelerated nuclear trajectory, point your finger at the man who dismantled the deal to slow and manage it. Again, he broke it and walked away, as he did with a good many things. Nuclear weapons are only a part of the problem. Since Biden/Harris freed up billions for Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah are at war with Israel now. We shouldn't forget the Houthis, who are also sponsored by Iran. The Middle East wasn't nearly this bad while Trump was in office. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, herbie said: Oh no, that's not a bigoted and insulting thing to ask someone to do, not according to obnoxious arseholes too stupid to know better. So in other words you can't think of a logical argument against it and are just butthurt? Quote Who gives a shit what ethnicity she is? She's running on it as an election issue. So... everybody who votes i guess. She getttin shizzle wit it nizzle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, herbie said: Who gives a shit what ethnicity she is? Certainly none of Trump's business. If that concerns you, you're definitely a bigoted arsehole. Once again, he is not concerned what ethnicity she is. He is saying she uses it to play politics. You may think he is incorrect. But it is not bigoted. Edited August 2 by CouchPotato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 He had no idea she was black until she decided to be black. What is she black or Indian? No matter how much you SQUEAL AND WIGGLE those are the words out of the Oaf's fat mouth. So it was important to him. And insulting to everyone else other than the bigots that support him for that exact reason. Utterly amazing that America could follow up a President with as much class as Obama with one with no class at all, and even more sickening to know that many want to elect the boor and world laughing stock again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 The liar is also a coward: "why should I debate". Nothing here we didn't know. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, herbie said: He had no idea she was black until she decided to be black. What is she black or Indian? Depends who she's talking to it seems. Quote No matter how much you SQUEAL AND WIGGLE those are the words out of the Oaf's fat mouth. So it was important to him. And insulting to everyone else other than the bigots that support him for that exact reason. No matter how much you squeal and wiggle she previously promoted herself as an 'indian' woman and now presents herself as black, complete with accent. And she deserves to be called on it. Of course you don't like it, you thrive on hypocrisy. Utterly sick that you'd pretend this was anything but disgusting racial pandering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 So they want to claim that inability to count to two should somehow exonerate them of playing the medieval-old race card. Stupid or just lying? Possibly, both? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, herbie said: 15 hours ago, herbie said: Utterly amazing that America could follow up a President with as much class as Obama with one with no class at all... What did they have in common though? They had far fewer qualifications than presidents of the past. Before them, you had a long string of former governors and vice presidents. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: far fewer qualifications than presidents of the past Obama was in the Senate for a decade and headed a committee before presidency. Trump had just zero, plain and pure. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, myata said: Obama was in the Senate for a decade and headed a committee before presidency. Trump had just zero, plain and pure. He was only in the senate for 3 years. He was a state senator before then but.... I wouldn't count that as much. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 10 hours ago, myata said: So they want to claim that inability to count to two should somehow exonerate them of playing the medieval-old race card. Stupid or just lying? Possibly, both? Trump is claiming that she is playing the race card. You are, in turn, claiming that by doing so Trump is playing the race card. By that logic, accusing someone of playing the race card is the same as playing the race card. By extension, accusing someone of stealing is the same as stealing. If accusing someone of stealing is not the same as stealing, then Trump did not play the race card. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit! Edited August 3 by CouchPotato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Shocking! This is the old boring liar the public is not supposed to know about. The man that they say is the next Hitler.. 2 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Come ON 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, CouchPotato said: Trump is claiming that she is playing the race card. You are, in turn, claiming that by doing so Trump is playing the race card. By that logic, accusing someone of playing the race card is the same as playing the race card. By extension, accusing someone of stealing is the same as stealing. If accusing someone of stealing is not the same as stealing, then Trump did not play the race card. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit! The real question is do wookies live on endor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Seriously though, Trump has got to stop worrying about stuff like whether she is playing the race card. It's stupid. He has to talk about the issues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, CouchPotato said: Seriously though, Trump has got to stop worrying about stuff like whether she is playing the race card. It's stupid. He has to talk about the issues. For sure. This isn't a winning strategy for him, and if it's like this for the next 3 months then she wins. Right now she's not in front of any cameras because she does not know how to talk without a teleprompter. Nobody is asking her any hard questions. They're not forcing her to have to address issues. He's lobbing up this softball crap and it's just not going to gain any ground. He's got to be forcing her to answer questions about all of these videos surfacing showing that she thinks nobody should ever wish anyone a Merry Christmas, or how she's going to ban all guns on the first day, or how she wants to end all fracking, or any of the other billion crazy things she said and painter as a radical which she is Everyday he wastes talking about whether she passed some exam for something she's not even doing anymore or what race she is for the debates moves her closer to victory and him farther from it. He's got to get serious again and make this about her and her ability to govern the nation not just her ability to drop her g's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 3 hours ago, CouchPotato said: Seriously though, Trump has got to stop worrying about stuff like whether she is playing the race card. It's stupid. He has to talk about the issues. Sorry, you must be thinking of someone else. Trump is clueless on the issues. That's why everything is terrible or awful or amazing and the best. He's not curious, doesn't read the briefs and is much more comfortable just slinging mud for the cheering cultists. That's his zone. Couldn't come up with an actual fact or policy to save his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchPotato Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Sorry, you must be thinking of someone else. Trump is clueless on the issues. All he has to do is point out that Democrats are not doing a great job on a lot of issues that are very important to Americans. Illegal immigration is one of them. Then, as CdnFox mentioned, he can point out that Kamala has taken all kinds of different positions on issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Sorry, you must be thinking of someone else. Trump is clueless on the issues. That's why everything is terrible or awful or amazing and the best. He's not curious, doesn't read the briefs and is much more comfortable just slinging mud for the cheering cultists. That's his zone. Couldn't come up with an actual fact or policy to save his life. Huh... Issue 1: The border is open and about 20 million illegal aliens has waltzed into the USA thanks to Brandon and Kamala...the border czar. Trump hits on this daily. Closing the border is one of his first priorities. Issue 2: The economy is in shambles and making good use of America's fossil fuel industry will turn that around. Thus "drill baby drill" is a trump slogan. He certainly knows this is a priority issue. Issue 3: Wars are tearing at east Europe and the Middle East. Zelinsky sees Trump coming and all the sudden, he's gonna meet with the Russians to negotiate a peace deal. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/trump-zelenskyy-ukraine-call-00169905 Sub-Issue: Kamala Harris...the VP with an approval rating of less that 40%...has been put in the position of presidential candidate, by a Democrat party that lied to the entire world about Brandon's mental state...until the world saw the truth and then slid a knife in Brandon's back and installed Kamala. Very undemocratic. Kamala is widely known as being far-left politically. Farther even than Bernie Sanders. That's a long way left. For years Kamala called herself Indian. People clearly see Indian genetics when they look at her, so it was believed. Then she became the first black VP. Wait...what? People look at her and do not see a black person. They see an Indian. Kamala Harris is playing racial musical chairs. Trump has called her on it. Tweenkies are outraged. But they have no argument but to scream "RACISM!" which of course is...asinine. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 8 hours ago, CouchPotato said: He has to talk about the issues. He can't and that's his problem. With so much sh*t in his luggage, he's way past normal politics and one can't just pretend it didn't happen. The moment he tries a normal conversation (if he could that isn't a fact) all the sh*t will be coming right back as questions with no answers. "Stolen election", "find me those votes" how do you answer that, in any honesty? So distractions, pumping up hatred and fear is all what' left. How can it be any easier to understand? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, myata said: He can't and that's his problem. With so much sh*t in his luggage, he's way past normal politics and one can't just pretend it didn't happen. The moment he tries a normal conversation (if he could that isn't a fact) all the sh*t will be coming right back as questions with no answers. "Stolen election", "find me those votes" how do you answer that, in any honesty? So distractions, pumping up hatred and fear is all what' left. How can it be any easier to understand? Dude...did Trump jilt you or something. You come off like a jilted lover. When were you his lover? I didn't know Trump swings both ways. Do tell. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 Watch a liar pretending to be dumb, again and over. Funny or boring, at what point? The questions, the facts, the reality: it's not going away no it cannot. Either this will be the new standard from now on and all the way to Maduro; or it is condemned and rejected, utterly. And no other options, in the sane universe. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 36 minutes ago, myata said: Watch a liar pretending to be dumb, again and over. Funny or boring, at what point? The questions, the facts, the reality: it's not going away no it cannot. Either this will be the new standard from now on and all the way to Maduro; or it is condemned and rejected, utterly. And no other options, in the sane universe. Ok so not your lover. Whew...glad of that. So...your biological daddy then? Did Twumpy-Wumpy leave your mommy a little gift? Or wait...was it... Hunter? Edited August 4 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 Honestly... is it the brain or all of the sensory channels at once? The sh*t: the facts; questions; the reality: it isn't going anywhere. No, it doesn't no matter how deep you dig your head in, and how much lies pour over. The reality isn't going anywhere.. but you, sure can. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 47 minutes ago, myata said: Honestly... is it the brain or all of the sensory channels at once? The sh*t: the facts; questions; the reality: it isn't going anywhere. No, it doesn't no matter how deep you dig your head in, and how much lies pour over. The reality isn't going anywhere.. but you, sure can. I will myata. I volunteer to notify Hunter and let him know he's got a son. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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