Old boring liar

[myata]

Whenever he opens his mouth, lies are bursting out as though he has real trouble holding them in himself. Wherever he goes, the message is always the same: hatred wrapped in lies, mixed and adorned with more lies and hatred. When is it enough? Where, beyond the obvious absence of ideas, the dead end of hope it's just plain old boring? To the toothache. What, this, again?

A lying clown who wants to lead his troupe over the field of fires with his lying tambourine. Such an old, lying story.

Sure there are real problems; they aren't going anywhere and need to be solved and repaired: by thinking, responsible citizens who care about their country, and their posterity. But hiring lying clowns is not an smart way to attend to such problems: they'll ruin everything that still works, and create more dire ones. No musings, history itself tells and shows us that very clearly.

Only an old lying clown with a tambourine of hatred and lies. Boom, boom, boom. Unfit, obviously. But so terribly old and boring, too.

 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Whenever he opens his mouth, lies are bursting out as though he has real trouble holding them in himself. Wherever he goes, the message is always the same: hatred wrapped in lies, mixed and adorned with more lies and hatred. When is it enough? Where, beyond the obvious absence of ideas, the dead end of hope it's just plain old boring? To the toothache. What, this, again?

A lying clown who wants to lead his troupe over the field of fires with his lying tambourine. Such an old, lying story.

Sure there are real problems; they aren't going anywhere and need to be solved and repaired: by thinking, responsible citizens who care about their country, and their posterity. But hiring lying clowns is not an smart way to attend to such problems: they'll ruin everything that still works, and create more dire ones. No musings, history itself tells and shows us that very clearly.

Only an old lying clown with a tambourine of hatred and lies. Boom, boom, boom. Unfit, obviously. But so terribly old and boring, too.

 

Again...you accuse a lot but identify nothing.

WHAT LIES?

Come on...man up.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Unfit, obviously.

People were seeing Biden as a better alternative. He's literally a corpse that happens to have a pulse.

Also, Trump isn't so powerful because of anything he did.

He's the result of the failed Democrat policies, that have left many disillusioned. 

He's masterfully harnessed that anger, and used it to fuel his ascent.

Humble, would be the politician understanding that anger, and addressing it.

Lacking awareness, would be pointing to racism, discrimination and anger, dismissing it, and letting it grow.

Blaming Trump is akin to me, to blaming guns for the crime in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Not challenging the policies that have created the generational poverty, and cultural influences that accept it, and even glorify it.

[User]

If you care so much about lies, lets see it by your own actions here. Stop lying. 

You ran away from me because I called out your repeated lies. 

 

[gatomontes99]

36 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Again...you accuse a lot but identify nothing.

WHAT LIES?

Come on...man up.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Whenever he opens his mouth, lies are bursting out as though he has real trouble holding them in himself. Wherever he goes, the message is always the same: hatred wrapped in lies, mixed and adorned with more lies and hatred. When is it enough? Where, beyond the obvious absence of ideas, the dead end of hope it's just plain old boring? To the toothache. What, this, again?

A lying clown who wants to lead his troupe over the field of fires with his lying tambourine. Such an old, lying story.

Sure there are real problems; they aren't going anywhere and need to be solved and repaired: by thinking, responsible citizens who care about their country, and their posterity. But hiring lying clowns is not an smart way to attend to such problems: they'll ruin everything that still works, and create more dire ones. No musings, history itself tells and shows us that very clearly.

Only an old lying clown with a tambourine of hatred and lies. Boom, boom, boom. Unfit, obviously. But so terribly old and boring, too.

 

Look, I don't like Joe Biden either, but you should be happy that he dropped out of the race. I know I'm happy about that. 

[myata]

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

[User]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

Well, so far her campaign has consisted a lot on lying about Trump. 

[myata]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

He's the result of the failed Democrat policies, that have left many disillusioned. 

Well, you just ruined the chance for an honest conversation. Disillusionment is very real, almost palpable and not only in America who could deny that? It is a result of one party's policies and decisions? Beep. Doesn't make much sense, does it? In this century there were three Republican administrations: exactly as many as Democrat's. These are the facts. The reality cannot be twisted and beat.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, myata said:

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

Yes, the insults are getting desperate and stale.

 

[Deluge]

13 minutes ago, myata said:

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

Harris is a prosecutor and she plans to prosecute from the WH. that'll be a sight, won't it? 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, the insults are getting desperate and stale.

 

And will end when you Libbies stop insulting us with accusations and lies. Until then...

Have a nice day.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

 

He's the result of the failed Democrat policies, that have left many disillusioned. 

 

This is like blaming the neighbourhood for you becoming a criminal...

People have to take responsibility for their votes.

[ironstone]

43 minutes ago, myata said:

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

Why isn't she running on the actual Biden/Harris record? 

Securing the border? Hitting 40 year highs in inflation? A resurgent Taliban? An enriched and more belligerent Iran? A costly proxy war with Russia?

[CouchPotato]

4 hours ago, myata said:

A lying clown who wants to lead his troupe over the field of fires with his lying tambourine.

No one could ever accuse you of being overdramatic.

Edited August 1 by CouchPotato

[myata]

Every one would be a good item for an open, objective discussion. Including who engineered the rise of Taliban. Who weakened the positions of the West in Syria, resulting in the rise of ISIS and strengthening of Iran. Who did nothing in for his four year in office to stop the aggressive ambitions of the new alliance of dictators? And what future awaits us if they are encourage to advance and spread?

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, myata said:

Every one would be a good item for an open, objective discussion. Including who engineered the rise of Taliban. Who weakened the positions of the West in Syria, resulting in the rise of ISIS and strengthening of Iran. Who did nothing in for his four year in office to stop the aggressive ambitions of the new alliance of dictators? And what future awaits us if they are encourage to advance and spread?

Cite? No?

Lyin' coward.

[impartialobserver]

Yes, I will agree the topic of Trump is boring. Same old stuff, same old impassioned but overly simplistic responses. Same people saying the same things every day. Yawnnn....

[CouchPotato]

56 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is like blaming the neighbourhood for you becoming a criminal...

People have to take responsibility for their votes.

I think many people see Trump as the better choice. They are taking responsibility for their votes.

They don't see Trump as being any more criminal than the rest of Washington. 34 felonies over a hush money payment? Being in possession of classified documents when Biden was guilty of the same thing?

It's not just the Democrat party that pushed people out. It was the Republican party as well. The principled, stately conservatives ignored the concerns of their own voters. What good are principles if you never stand for them? They were more concerned with appearing principled than actual principals. Voters saw this. They saw that the principled conservatives cowered the second they got challenged in the media or someone accused them of racism.

Edited August 1 by CouchPotato

[myata]

3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

They don't see Trump as being any more criminal than the rest of Washington.

How can one explain "the race to the bottom" any better? Is it really the only choice?

No: of course not. We just have to choose.

[CouchPotato]

Just now, myata said:

How can one explain "the race to the bottom" any better? Is it really the only choice?

No: of course not. We just have to choose.

I think the democrat party is far more dangerous.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

1. I think many people see Trump as the better choice. They are taking responsibility for their votes.

2. They saw that the principled conservatives cowered the second they got challenged in the media or someone accused them of racism.

1. I was talking about the analogy not about every voter. 

2. Cowed?  How? Conservatives have held the presidency exactly 50% of the last 40 years.  Trump's tactics worked for him, barely, in 2016.  I'll bet Jeb Bush could have beat Hillary Clinton too.

[CouchPotato]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Cowed?  How? Conservatives have held the presidency exactly 50% of the last 40 years.  Trump's tactics worked for him, barely, in 2016.  I'll bet Jeb Bush could have beat Hillary Clinton too.

We aren't talking about the last 40 years.

Jeb Bush may have beaten Hillary. But that has nothing to do with the fact that conservatives back away from what they believe in when they are challenged or called racist for their principles in the media. They become apologetic. No fight. Maybe you don't see it. But other people do. They feel that the mainstream, principled conservatives are not much different than Hillary. They view their base as largely a basket of deplorables. They see that voters are leaving them and going to Trump, but refuse to understand why. Why it can't possibly have anything to do with us! Utter absurdity! We didn't lose these voters. Trump just stole them. Trump is a pied piper, and the people are just stupid.

Sometimes when people tell you they are taking the high road the truth is they are really just on a high horse.

Edited August 1 by CouchPotato

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

 But that has nothing to do with the fact that conservatives back away from what they believe in when they are challenged or called racist for their principles in the media.  

So Trump being outright racist is a solution to that? If you say so...

 

If you can find me an example of another candidate proposing something, then retracting it when it was called racist by the media then let me know. 

Trying to chase down these things ends up being an exercise in futility. I find. The goal posts move all over the place and then you end up finding some edge case. 

You have to agree that it's very difficult prove things like the influence of a single statement or A media figure. 

 

Maybe I can accept your general assertion that the discussion is very clean to the point of being antiseptic and people can't relate to it.  That explains Trump's appeal in terms of seeming genuine and relatable. 

But it's just another form of what Trudeau does in the end. It's surface. His appearances and his manners.... On one case the deplorable God, on the other case the woke hair boy. 

I find it both sides to be deplorable because they are selecting leaders as they would a shampoo

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Harris should run on the message, and vision of renewal and hope. Enough of this old lying stuff. Just boring.

She's the incumbent - if there's a need for renewal and hope it's because her and biden left things stagnant and dispair. 

How do you run on a message of renewal and hope when you're the reason people need renewal and hope?

 I see trump is up again in the polls.