Trans Influencer Roasted for Humiliating Waiter

[Guest]

"The incident, which made the rounds on social media", to be noted, that Jude Balcaso is a trans influencer.

"the food server at a restaurant addressed Bacalso as "sir.""

"Bacalso came under fire after a social media post claimed she had the food server stand for two hours after the incident."

The below picture (on the left) was taken by another patron and posted, forcing her to backpedal her stance among growing condemnation:

[Michael Hardner]

Identity politics.  Not worth the time of day.

Imagine somebody posts a story about an asexual somewhere who parks illegally.

The collective response should be to ignore, or at most to ask "why do we care ?"

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Imagine somebody posts a story about an asexual somewhere who parks illegally.

It wouldn't be news worthy  unless they ran over a baby, got a car wash, and took off to get groceries.

This is how low you would have to go seemingly, to come close to misgendering someone who looks and sounds like a man, inadvertently. 

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

"why do we care ?"

Because if if wasn't for the evidence, that influencer likely would have had her way.

The employee, would likely have been terminated. Cebu has strict anti discrimination laws, quite progressive considering there are only two genders legally considered in the Philippines.

He was standing for two hours, mortified at his mistake, quickly apologized, and stood there, while she berated him and refused to accept his apology.

Took it to social media to further roast him, and minimum wage workers for not having common sense.

Why we care?

Pushing for rights, is perfectly fine.

Pushing to bully people who don't abide with your self identification, should be swiftly denounced.

You're free to identify as you see fit. I am free to refuse to buy it.

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

1. It wouldn't be news worthy  unless they ran over a baby, got a car wash, and took off to get groceries.

2. Why we care?

1. That would be a little more interesting. 

2. Because we like Petty things. Because we like fighting.  That's the answer. There's no high regard for rights discussions at play.

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. That would be a little more interesting. 

2. Because we like Petty things. Because we like fighting.  That's the answer. There's no high regard for rights discussions at play.

Why then are those who support such things so fanatics about it?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

That would be a little more interesting. 

Also pointing to the sad state of affairs, socially.

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Because we like Petty things

Nothing more petty than trying to get someone fired and nationally humiliated for the abhorrent act of accidentally misgendering you. So you're onto something here.

23 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Why then are those who support such things so fanatics about it?

Its almost as if they are living down white guilt.

Jimmy Kimmel is one of the most fanatical out there, regarding famous talk show hosts.

However, he literally did the f*** out of black face:

mocking women, obesity (while black fac...body?:

and seems only by being this extreme, can he redeem himself from cancelation.

[herbie]

More upset about trannies existing  than "influencers".

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

More upset about trannies existing  than "influencers".

Maybe more upset by the tranny fanatics.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/woman-sues-bell-customer-rep-090000645.html

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Why then are those who support such things so fanatics about it?

It's hard to say if this is true or not. A large percentage of people support that the basic rights should be granted. Are they fanatics? I don't know how you would ever prove that... And that's the reason why these stereotypes persist and are endless media fodder. 

 

[Guest]

16 hours ago, herbie said:

More upset about trannies existing

Nope. 

I don't think most have a problem with trans people.

Their rights, or their existence.

The issue, highlighted by this story, is the insanely vocal minority, making life harder for the respectable majority.

Most trans people, simply want to exist. Nothing wrong with that.

Welcome to my life as a minority, constantly having to live down the d**b s**t others do.

Nobody has an issue with that trans woman existing.

The issue, is her feeling entitled to have others see her self identity, just by looking at her. Looking at her, she could he a cross dresser, a drag queen, gay, you don't know.

But to be dismayed at people not seeing a biological woman, and feeling entitled to getting you nationally humiliated for it, is precisely what people are sick and tired of.

You do you. Don't expect others to play along in your self identity. You're not entitled to this. 

Going to a restaurant entitles you to patron their business free of discrimination. The restaurant did the the right thing in apologizing, but also in standing by their employee who this person was not entitled to get fired.

You're actually hurting your cause, making scenes like this, just like black people hurt me by walking into stores, and stealing tons of s***.

[Guest]

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's hard to say if this is true or not.

If you support the idea that there are endless genders, you are a fanatic.

How could you fight for something, you know nothing about?

How can you deem yourself knowledgeable on gender, without even being able to quantify it.

Its idiocy, trying to pass as education.

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

A large percentage of people support that the basic rights should be granted. 

Most people couldn't care less, and just want to live their lives.

When you impose your ideology onto others, you can only expect push back. 

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't know how you would ever prove that...

Looking at what they believe in?

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

1. If you support the idea that there are endless genders, you are a fanatic.

2. When you impose your ideology onto others, you can only expect push back. 

3. Looking at what they believe in?

 

1. I suppose that's one angle, but not the whole picture.

2. Except true ideology is pervasive, and imposes itself automatically.

3. That's not proof definitive, just a character assessment which is subjective.

....

There's nothing to escape the subjectivity of these comments. It's just people mattering back and forth. Like I say, identity politics move on... It's beyond boring at this point.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I suppose that's one angle, but not the whole picture.

You supporting identity politics, vs actual tangible issues or solutions to them, is a larger angle.

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except true ideology is pervasive, and imposes itself automatically.

I guess these people are impatient, as they are using identity politics, shaming and force.

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's not proof definitive

Thats just deflecting from the issue, when you demand tons of links and encyclopedias of proof when you're clearly smart enough to see the problem.

Its just easier to pretend it isn't there, and increasing the burden of proof, to make it harder to bring attention to it.

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's beyond boring at this point.

To you. Many still have a major problem with these types of issues.

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

1. You supporting identity politics, vs actual tangible issues or solutions to them, is a larger angle.

2. Thats just deflecting from the issue, when you demand tons of links and encyclopedias of proof when you're clearly smart enough to see the problem.

3. To you. Many still have a major problem with these types of issues.

1. Me? Were you talking about me personally? We haven't talked about my views in this thread so I don't know what you're talking about here. I'm just trying to look at the subject of this form of political discussion. That's all. 

2. It is my right to ask for clarification. You may not think it's required, but I do. For example, you're making some reference to my personal views and I don't understand why.  Clarification is always helpful.

3. Absolutely correct. This is my subjective view however, I expect people are getting tired of this topic of transgender politics in general.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Me?

Anyone, you, me anyone who would.

I wasn't being specific, and rather expanding in response to your post.

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It is my right to ask for clarification

100%. But sometimes this is done in good faith by some, and at times, to dismiss any level of scrutiny.

Very hard to be credible when your entire being is being brought into question or dismissed.

IE a prime minister calling your views "alt right".

You might as well say the food "may contain fecal matter". Nobody will be giving it the benefit of the doubt, and hope for the best.

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Clarification is always helpful

If someone requests clarification and refuses the said clarification because it doesn't support their narrative, it isn't about the clarification.

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I expect people are getting tired of this topic of transgender politics in general.

Many are more sick of the divisive nature of some of the group's spoke people. 

"With us or against us", isn't an inviting statement or attitude.

[User]

On 7/27/2024 at 8:32 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Identity politics.  Not worth the time of day.

Imagine somebody posts a story about an asexual somewhere who parks illegally.

The collective response should be to ignore, or at most to ask "why do we care ?"

These are cultural shifts taking place and when folks just ignore them and don't care... it is tacit endorsement of them. 

We care, because it is absurdly stupid to demand anyone must respect someone wanting to pretend they are something they are not. 

 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, User said:

We care, because it is absurdly stupid to demand anyone must respect someone wanting to pretend they are something they are not

We should respect their rights, but the disconnect, is them wanting us--demanding even, that we accept how they feel, inside, as gospel. Nobody gives a f*** how anyone feels inside. That's not stated disrespectfully, but rather, factually.

If I have social anxiety, and am nervous around crowds, everyone in that crowd are likely dealing with some degree of internal strife. Nobody cares. People are too busy with their own worlds.

Live your life, and I should have the right to respect your right of existence, without having to buy into the BS you're trying to sell me. You're not convincing anyone who is a logical thinker, or free thinker.

"You're with us, or a bigot", only deepens the divide.

[Yakuda]

On 7/27/2024 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Identity politics.  Not worth the time of day.

Imagine somebody posts a story about an asexual somewhere who parks illegally.

The collective response should be to ignore, or at most to ask "why do we care ?"

Why do we care? Because these mutants video their interactions with people so they should be ridiculed 

On 7/30/2024 at 5:38 AM, Guest said:

We should respect their rights, but the disconnect, is them wanting us--demanding even, that we accept how they feel, inside, as gospel. Nobody gives a f*** how anyone feels inside. That's not stated disrespectfully, but rather, factually.

If I have social anxiety, and am nervous around crowds, everyone in that crowd are likely dealing with some degree of internal strife. Nobody cares. People are too busy with their own worlds.

Live your life, and I should have the right to respect your right of existence, without having to buy into the BS you're trying to sell me. You're not convincing anyone who is a logical thinker, or free thinker.

"You're with us, or a bigot", only deepens the divide.

Good points