blackbird Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 (edited) quote Scientists reveal how the first cells on Earth could have formed We’re one step closer to finding out how life first developed on Earth. Scientists widely believe that life was formed in a hot spring but were unsure how cells became more complex to help evolve into life as we know it today. Now, a study has revealed how collections of fats formed the membranes of the very first cells. Researchers from The Scripps Research Institute in California said a chemical process known as phosphorylation happened a lot earlier than we first thought. Phosphorylation is a process where groups of atoms that include phosphorus are added to a molecule. This helps turn fats, known as protocells, into more evolved versions of themselves, so they can become more versatile, stable, and chemically active. These protocells are thought to be the building blocks of basic biochemistry over 3.5 billion years ago. ‘At some point, we all wonder where we came from,’ said Dr Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy, from The Scripps Research Institute. ‘This finding helps us better understand the chemical environments of early Earth so we can uncover the origins of life and how life can evolve on early Earth.’ Life is thought to have begun in a hot spring. The researchers thought that since phosphorylation is so common throughout the body, the process must have been involved in the early stages of protocell formation. The team recreated conditions similar to Earth’s early days in a lab, and combined chemicals such as fatty acids and glycerol in a way to create structures similar to protocells – and they found that phosphorylation may have been in the protocells during that period. unquote Scientists reveal how the first cells on Earth could have formed (msn.com) This whole idea is based on pure speculation. It is another attempt to evade God and claim chance somehow caused life. This is just pure Darwinism. It probably sounds plausible on the surface to people who know nothing about the creation account in Genesis ch1. The type of scientists invent new words that are supposed to baffle the reader and somehow give their claims more credibility. But really it is just another unproven theory that someone dreamed up. The truth is complexity of even the simple cell with all the chains of DNA information built into it should prove to anyone that a cell or life could not just happen by chance. It required an intelligent designer or Creator. "24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:24, 25 KJV This was a supernatural event whereby God created life on the fifth and sixth day. Edited July 27 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 On 7/27/2024 at 1:27 AM, blackbird said: This was a supernatural event If one supernatural God exists, then it is the proof of concept that many Gods exist. Is that really where you want your reality to be? So who, is the King of the many Gods in your thinking? Not that lovable genocidal prck, I hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 It is as silly as saying if you put all the ingredients for a cake together, in their raw form of course, that somehow if you just let them sit there long enough together, the circumstances will happen where they will turn into a baked cake. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 On 7/29/2024 at 1:09 PM, User said: It is as silly as saying if you put all the ingredients for a cake together, in their raw form of course, that somehow if you just let them sit there long enough together, the circumstances will happen where they will turn into a baked cake. What does the way we are created have to do with people adoring a genocidal prck of a God? Why do you adore a God who kills when he could just as easily cure? Why is genocidal good to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 On 7/31/2024 at 9:33 AM, French Patriot said: What does the way we are created have to do with people adoring a genocidal prck of a God? Why do you adore a God who kills when he could just as easily cure? Why is genocidal good to you? I am not interested in your bigotry. Move along. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 22 hours ago, User said: I am not interested in your bigotry. Move along. Questions are bigotry, says a guy promoting a genocidal prck of a God. Real good thinking that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 54 minutes ago, French Patriot said: Questions are bigotry, says a guy promoting a genocidal prck of a God. Real good thinking that. Those were not mere questions. They were loaded with your bigoted presumptions. Are you honest or intelligent enough to admit that? Also, what did any of those questions have to do with the post I made regarding how life began? Answer: Nothing. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 The human family started when Uncle Fester farted. The children are retarded the Human Familty ba dada dump! Put an infinite numbers of monkeys in a room with an infinite umber of typewriters, they'll eventually come up with... Oh Shit! That's the third copy of Arr of the Deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 On 7/26/2024 at 10:27 PM, blackbird said: It is another attempt to evade God and claim chance somehow caused life. Christians used to think illness was caused by witches cursing people, so they would burn them alive. Ooops! Turns out the disease was entirely natural in origin How life started is also a gap in our knowledge that won’t be solved by religion, but by science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 2 Author Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 28 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Christians used to think illness was caused by witches cursing people, so they would burn them alive. Ooops! Turns out the disease was entirely natural in origin How life started is also a gap in our knowledge that won’t be solved by religion, but by science. I doubt you could find any Biblical Christians who supported that sort of thing. The world was ruled by Rome for over a thousand years and many bad things happened under that system. Only in the past couple hundred years has the western world in general turned away from burning witches. Perhaps after the Reformation, more people began to realize that superstition is something to be shunned. Faith in the truth as stated in the Bible is not superstition. But it should be stated not everything about the supernatural is false. It is a fatal mistake to think it is. Science will never tell you truthfully how life began. For one thing nobody was there to observe it and it cannot be repeated. The Biblical account makes sense because the complexity of everything required an intelligent designer we call God. Edited September 2 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 24 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Christians used to think illness was caused by witches cursing people, so they would burn them alive. Ooops! Turns out the disease was entirely natural in origin How life started is also a gap in our knowledge that won’t be solved by religion, but by science. Science used to think you could shove the equivalent of an ice pick into peoples brains to help cure them too... Oooops! Turns out shoving devices into peoples brains was not all that wonderful after all. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 On 9/1/2024 at 5:18 PM, blackbird said: For one thing nobody was there to observe it and it cannot be repeated. So who was there to see it when God did it? Don’t you have the same problem? On 9/1/2024 at 5:18 PM, User said: Science used to think you could shove the equivalent of an ice pick into peoples brains to help cure them too... Did religion solve that issue, or did better science solve that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Did religion solve that issue, or did better science solve that? "better science" I guess we have better religion now too. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 3 Author Report Share Posted September 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: So who was there to see it when God did it? Don’t you have the same problem? No, I don't have the same problem. Genesis tells us God created everything. That revelation was given to Moses by God the Holy Spirit who recorded it in the book of Genesis which we have today. That is the first book in the King James Bible (1611) which is inspired and inerrant. Edited September 3 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 42 minutes ago, blackbird said: No, I don't have the same problem. Genesis tells us God created everything. That revelation was given to Moses by God the Holy Spirit who recorded it in the book of Genesis which we have today. That is the first book in the King James Bible (1611) which is inspired and inerrant. No one was there to see it, were they? 1 hour ago, User said: "better science" I guess we have better religion now too. Why did religion need to change? I thought the word of god was always the same…? Was it religion or science that fixed the problem that you were talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 3 Author Report Share Posted September 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No one was there to see it, were they? The Bible was given to men by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. You either believe the Bible or you don't. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Study the Bible if you want to have faith. " 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrew 11:6 KJV Edited September 3 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 24 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Why did religion need to change? I thought the word of god was always the same…? Was it religion or science that fixed the problem that you were talking about? Why did science need to change? I thought it was rooted in objective methods... What was the word of God the involved hunting witches and executing them? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Patriot Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 11 hours ago, blackbird said: That revelation was given to Moses Moses. A man who never existed, unless you can dither out how a dead man could write about his own death like Moses did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 4 hours ago, French Patriot said: Moses. A man who never existed, unless you can dither out how a dead man could write about his own death like Moses did. Sure... someone else wrote it. Wow, so hard. You do realize that to any Christian who has spent time studying The Bible and discussing with hostile non-believers like you, we have all heard these lame, mindless attacks before. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) 21 hours ago, blackbird said: The Bible was given to men by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. You either believe the Bible or you don't. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Study the Bible if you want to have faith. " 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrew 11:6 KJV Didn’t men write it? It’s really easy to claim to be inspired by a god. Edited September 4 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 21 hours ago, User said: Why did science need to change? Science changes all the time. We thought the sun revolved around us. Better science came along and proved the opposite. Opposed by religion at the time, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 4 Author Report Share Posted September 4 20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Didn’t men write it? It’s really easy to claim to be inspired by a god. quote 4 Criteria for Determining a New Testament Book The early church used four criteria to determine the canonicity of a New Testament book. First, each book was written by an apostle or one closely associated with an apostle. Second, the contents of these books were revelatory in nature. Third, these books were universally recognized by the church in their teaching and preaching ministry. Fourth, these books were considered inspired because they bore the marks of inspiration. unquote Books of the Bible - How They Were Chosen as Canon (biblesprout.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, blackbird said: quote 4 Criteria for Determining a New Testament Book The early church used four criteria to determine the canonicity of a New Testament book. First, each book was written by an apostle or one closely associated with an apostle. Second, the contents of these books were revelatory in nature. Third, these books were universally recognized by the church in their teaching and preaching ministry. Fourth, these books were considered inspired because they bore the marks of inspiration. unquote Books of the Bible - How They Were Chosen as Canon (biblesprout.com) No one was there to see God create the universe, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 28 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Science changes all the time. We thought the sun revolved around us. Better science came along and proved the opposite. Opposed by religion at the time, of course. Yes, and the abuse of religion by man changes all the time as well. Science did not come along and prove the opposite... science was already there criticizing those who dared to disagree. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted September 4 Author Report Share Posted September 4 49 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No one was there to see God create the universe, correct? "1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. " Genesis 1:1 KJV This is believed to have been written by Moses under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God. "16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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