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1 , 2 and 4 are the same thing.  If the population is increasing faster than infrastructure, infrastructure gets strained. so yes 

3. No. That's silly. 

5 - not really, they'd interfere no matter how many immigrants we brought in. 

6 - not exactly But sort of

7- no. 

8 - sort of. 

9 - is just 8 repeated differently.

1, 2 and 4 are the biggies. That drives inflation, it creates massive tension and leads to some of the other problems mentioned. 

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I think the problem is the numbers and the people chosen to be allowed entry. The numbers are insane. We have not been able to keep up with them and have created our own problems both socially and financially. And who pays for this debauchery? We do.

The other problem we've created is the shock to Canadian society. Why is it very difficult for a European to move here, yet Asians can waltz in and have everything handed to them? Walk into any office building and what do you see? Asians and Indonesians...at a ratio way above the population ratio. Go looking for an IT job. You will deal with Indians. Why? And do they operate fairly to all? Well...look around you in your office setting.

Not too long ago on this forum, I had an exchange with an Indian from Surrey. He flat out said they are here to take over. And we not only let them, but actually pave the way for them.

I have nothing against real, honest, immigrants. My own wife is a real, honest, immigrant. But immigration in Canada is lopsided and caters to people who's very culture clashes violently with ours.

Pixie-Dust has tried to tell us that there really is no Canadian culture. Why else would he do such a thing, than to pave the way for an explosion of a non-compatible culture?

Canadians...stand in guard for your own lands and culture...for a change.

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8 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Hello, I found this article on Druthers.ca, one of the remaining true newspapers in Canada.  The author talks about the effects of mass immigration on Canada.  I will post an excerpt below, to give you guys an idea.  You can also see the full article here: https://druthers.ca/ten-reasons-to-rethink-mass-immigration-to-canada/

 

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Let me know what you guys think.

Ummm ", one of the remaining true newspapers in Canada"??? LOL

"didn’t know who had left the newspaper at his Kitchener home. That bothered him.

It was called “Druthers” and it was full of anti-vaccine views and conspiracy theories, with some commentary that was anti-Asian, anti-Muslim and antisemitic.

One of the articles said the 9/11 attack “no doubt involves shadowy elements recruited from among militant Zionists and Saudi fundamentalists.”"

https://www.therecord.com/news/waterloo-region/when-hateful-words-arrive-at-the-door/article_468c1c90-2979-5a55-ab32-978c8ef1114d.html

 

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What are the benefits of mass immigration?

I can't think of any ways it benefits Canada and the same goes for any other Western nation that also embraces that policy.

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13 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Hello, I found this article on Druthers.ca, one of the remaining true newspapers in Canada.  The author talks about the effects of mass immigration on Canada.  I will post an excerpt below, to give you guys an idea.  You can also see the full article here: https://druthers.ca/ten-reasons-to-rethink-mass-immigration-to-canada/

 

If the link doesn't work, just head to Druthers.ca, then go to Read at the very top.  Select By Subject, then select the tag Immigration.  Look for the article titled "Ten Reasons To Rethink Mass Immigration To Canada".

 

While you are on Druthers, feel free to check out the rest of the articles.  They have some really good ones, the ones that they don't want you to read.

 

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Swiss novelist Max Frisch, referring to the foreign “guest workers” allowed into Europe after the Second World War, said, “We wanted workers…but we got people instead.”

1. Housing Crisis

This one is simple enough: Prices are determined by the relationship between supply and demand. As Canada’s population has grown through large-scale immigration, which reached a rate of nearly 1.3 million in 2023 alone (when including non-permanent residents like foreign workers and international students), both home prices and rents have soared.

 

Vancouver, Toronto, and Hamilton are now the three least affordable cities in North America. In his 2010 book Millionaire Migrants, UBC (University of British Columbia) Professor David Ley found a positive correlation coefficient of 0.94 between Vancouver and Toronto house prices and net international migration. For more evidence on the relationship between immigration and housing prices, check out Madeline Weld’s excellent article on the topic: “Blatantly Oblivious to the Blindingly Obvious.”

The result is social chaos and displacement, with younger generations feeling locked out of the housing market and delaying having children, and elderly Canadians on a fixed income returning to work to meet rent or mortgage payments.

2. Strained Healthcare

This one is also pretty simple: Immigrants need healthcare too! Adding large numbers of future patients from overseas every year is exacerbating the pre-existing problems with our healthcare system.

Though the population has grown by 5 million people in the last ten years alone, Canada has added just 167 medical residencies. In 2023, Canada accepted 471,550 permanent residents, as well as around 800,000 foreign workers and international students. Despite the federal government’s claim that the solution is to bring in doctors and nurses from overseas, in reality, we only accept about 4,000 immigrant healthcare workers per year.

As a result, more than 6 million Canadians and counting do not have access to a family doctor.

3. Farmland Loss

Despite having the second-largest landmass in the world, just 4.3% of Canada is arable, and 90% of Canadians live in a winding line of settlements within 160 KM of the U.S. border. Most immigrants settle in this same strip, which drives urban expansion: 15 million acres of farmland have been lost since 1976. Ontario loses 319 acres of farmland every day. Since 2001, Canada has lost the equivalent of seven small farms per day.

This loss of farmland weakens Canada’s food security, forcing us to depend on importing food from other nations—in an increasingly fractious world order. It also fuels urbanization, threatening Canada’s beloved countryside landscapes, and the rural lifestyle many of us are attached to.

4. Crowding of Schools

Like so many effects of mass immigration, the overcrowding of Canadian schools is a function of the law of supply and demand—which our political elite is apparently unaware of! Simply put: Provinces and school districts are being overwhelmed by large numbers of additional students from newly-settled immigrant families. In Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown and Stratford received 375 newcomer students who were neither predicted nor planned for. Surrey, B.C., is considering putting schools in high rises!

To be sure, school crowding is not the fault of the immigrant families in question. Both immigrant and native-born Canadians alike are the victims of the classroom crowding caused by an out-of-control federal immigration policy.

5. Foreign Interference

From the alleged Chinese interference in recent Canadian elections to the assassination of Khalistan separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar outside a Surrey temple, Canada is now a hotspot for foreign interference. While politicians of all stripes have denounced the meddling of foreign states in Canadian affairs, none have explicitly linked it to the presence of large foreign diaspora populations on Canadian soil.

The fact is, the presence of large diasporas invites foreign interference. This is especially true of China, which considers all ethnic Chinese to be nationals of China—regardless of their place of residency. For Xi Jinping, overseas Chinese play an irreplaceable role in China’s rise. The link between diaspora populations and foreign interference appears to be an ironclad rule of geopolitics, and has been seen in Europe as well, with Turkish president Erdogan urging Turks in Germany to vote against German Chancellor Merkel after a diplomatic rupture between the countries.

6. Declining Living Standards

Large-scale immigration is touted as necessary to Canada’s economic success, but this could not be further from the truth. While Canada’s immigration-driven population growth does grow the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), it lowers GDP per capita. In other words, while the economic pie grows, most people’s slice gets smaller!

This process has gotten so bad that the National Bank of Canada released a report warning that Canada is in a “population trap” whereby any increase in living standards is impossible—a problem which usually occurs in emerging economies like India or Sub-Saharan Africa!

7. Urban Sprawl and Densification

The federal government describes immigration in abstract terms: addressing labour shortages, offsetting ageing populations, or growing the GDP. In reality, immigrants are not just workers, they are people—people who need a roof over their heads! To accommodate immigration-driven population growth, a large amount of Canada’s energy and wealth is spent endlessly building both single-family developments and high rises.

The urban sprawl strategy is most visible in places like Calgary, with new cookie-cutter developments being continually built on the surrounding prairie. Alberta saw a population boom of 184,000 in 2023 alone (with international migration accounting for far more than interprovincial migration), so this looks likely to continue. The densification approach is most apparent in British Columbia, which recently abolished single-family zoning in most communities to accommodate immigration-driven population growth.

8. Declining Social Cohesion

Social cohesion is a measure of the strength of the bonds linking members of a group to each other—and to the group itself. As ethnic and cultural diversity increases because of large-scale immigration, the number and severity of society’s cultural fault lines increases.

One way in which this is manifesting in Canadian society is brawls between or within diaspora groups. On September 2nd, 2023, about 150 Eritreans clashed in the parking lot of Calgary’s Falconridge Plaza, armed with sticks and pipes. Similar clashes occurred in Edmonton and Toronto. The origin of the disputes was a difference of views about the government in Eritrea. In November of 2023, viral videos emerged of a clash between Hindus and Sikhs on Diwali in Mississauga.

9. Incompatible Cultural Practices

Most of Canada’s immigration now comes from India, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. While culturally rich in their own way, cultures and religions in these regions often hold values diametrically opposed to those of Anglo Canadian and Quebecois society. The result is the import of behaviours incompatible with—or even offensive to—the Canadian way of life, such as:

A furniture store in Richmond, British Columbia, advertising for a “Chinese sales person.”

A daycare worker in the Quebec city region discovering, while changing a young girl’s diaper, that she had been the victim of female genital mutilation.

The revelation in Quebec that three schools had set up Muslim prayer rooms, segregated by gender.

The construction of a 55-foot-tall statue of Hanuman, a Hindu god and “commander of the monkey army,” in Brampton, Ontario.

Discriminatory rental ads specifying that apartments or houses will be rented to “Indians only.”

The controversial spread of massive Chinese “monster homes” in Vancouver, British Columbia.

 

 

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Let me know what you guys think.

None of this stuff actually matters. In fact, any economist can argue that immigration actually is good for the economy because it increases the gdp. There is a positive correlation between population and gdp. And that gdp can then be taxed and the government can provide the services you are seeking.

 

I personally find it more interesting that a project designed to radically and permanently alter the racial demographics of a country would indeed be considered genocide (by the un definition and by people with common sense). So why is that supposed to just be okay...or in fact celebrated...while people pretend that genocide is a bad thing? I don't understand that at all.

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13 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Hello, I found this article on Druthers.ca, one of the remaining true newspapers in Canada.  The author talks about the effects of mass immigration on Canada.  I will post an excerpt below, to give you guys an idea.  You can also see the full article here: https://druthers.ca/ten-reasons-to-rethink-mass-immigration-to-canada/

 

You only posted nine.

Here's number ten for you

https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/

 

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/wanted

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5 hours ago, ironstone said:

What are the benefits of mass immigration?

I can't think of any ways it benefits Canada and the same goes for any other Western nation that also embraces that policy.

We are a growing and successful nation thanks to mass immigration over the last 160 years.

We have a huge country that requires very expensive infrastructure.  The larger the population the cheaper/more efficient the infrastructure.

Immigration helps to ensure that we have enough workers, for example in the fields of child care, health care and elderly care.

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14 minutes ago, carepov said:

We are a growing and successful nation thanks to mass immigration over the last 160 years.

We have a huge country that requires very expensive infrastructure.  The larger the population the cheaper/more efficient the infrastructure.

Immigration helps to ensure that we have enough workers, for example in the fields of child care, health care and elderly care.

We have had mass immigration for many years, and we have also had a serious problem with health care and a housing shortage. Very long wait times in health care, and millions of Canadians without a family doctor.

And it's highly debatable if ethnic enclaves are a good thing.

Some cultures assimilate better than others. The melting pot is preferable to multiculturalism.

https://financialpost.com/news/canada-standard-of-living-faces-worst-decline-40-years

Measuring a country’s growth can be contentious.

Measure Canada’s gross domestic product by aggregate and it doesn’t look so bad, but measure it by person or per capita and it’s dismal.

For example, between 2000 and 2023 Canada had the second highest rate of aggregate GDP growth in the G7, but one of the lowest growth rates per person.

When a country has had a population surge as Canada has, economists say measuring by person gives a better picture of its standard of living, and according to a new study by Fraser Institute that standard is headed for its biggest decline in 40 years.

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Yeah obviously the altering of racial demographics is of concern is of concern to racists in Canada.
You know those who insist they aren't and still think a plane coming from the UK will be all white people and Impoverished Glaswegians fleeing rationing. That planeloads of Italian peasants land as often as they did in the 1950s and 60s, they're not busy at home making Lambos to sell us or buying up Chrysler lock stock and barrel.

Ya want more people, you get all kinds. I said 20 years ago they could've shipped in 50,000 Bosnians, given them a couple sheep and a land grant in the old abandoned Manson Creek and by now it would be as big and prosperous as Prince George.
They come here because they want to and the fact they'll work harder upsets you guys. You'd rather see reports about a few Chinese whiney rich kids that left because Vancouver was 'too monotonous and expensive'.

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6 hours ago, herbie said:

Yeah obviously the altering of racial demographics is of concern is of concern to racists in Canada.
You know those who insist they aren't and still think a plane coming from the UK will be all white people and Impoverished Glaswegians fleeing rationing. That planeloads of Italian peasants land as often as they did in the 1950s and 60s, they're not busy at home making Lambos to sell us or buying up Chrysler lock stock and barrel.

Ya want more people, you get all kinds. I said 20 years ago they could've shipped in 50,000 Bosnians, given them a couple sheep and a land grant in the old abandoned Manson Creek and by now it would be as big and prosperous as Prince George.
They come here because they want to and the fact they'll work harder upsets you guys. You'd rather see reports about a few Chinese whiney rich kids that left because Vancouver was 'too monotonous and expensive'.

This is a perfect example of why we can not have a discussion about anything of real value in this country any more....Frankly i'm tired of the same old leftist bullshit, your a racist , your a homophobe, your a an extreme right wing dick...Perhaps i am all of those in your mind....perhaps i don't care what you think of me...Here is an idea, let's have a discussion without throwing down the gauntlet of names and curses....or maybe just move on call it a day....

I do think a large amount of Canadians are concerned about the size of immigration, and whom is being allowed into the country, and from where in the globe they come from....well i guess justin was right we are a systematically racist country, and yet....everyone wants to come here for some reason....to which the left has invented DEI to solve all of that....You could talk for pages on this topic, but it has been deemed racist....

 

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17 hours ago, carepov said:

We are a growing and successful nation thanks to mass immigration over the last 160 years.

We appear to be less successful than we were when we had half the population we do now.

17 hours ago, carepov said:

We have a huge country that requires very expensive infrastructure.  The larger the population the cheaper/more efficient the infrastructure.

Our infrastructure does not appear to have improved. Quite the contrary.

17 hours ago, carepov said:

Immigration helps to ensure that we have enough workers, for example in the fields of child care, health care and elderly care.

And yet, we seem to not have such employees and have to import hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers, and still more immigrants to do these jobs. Fifty years ago we didn't need foreigners and immigrants to do them. Canadian born people did them.

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16 hours ago, herbie said:

Yeah obviously the altering of racial demographics is of concern is of concern to racists in Canada.

It's about changing the culture of Canada for the worst, you brainless, reactionary twat.

16 hours ago, herbie said:

Ya want more people, you get all kinds.

Yeah, if we have no standards, like your mom did.

Better to have high standards, to pick and choose who comes.

Otherwise we get people we don't want. Like you.

16 hours ago, herbie said:


They come here because they want to and the fact they'll work harder upsets you guys. You'd rather see reports about a few Chinese whiney rich kids that left because Vancouver was 'too monotonous and expensive'.

I'd rather NOT see all the reports of rape, robbery, shootouts, murders and the like, 90% of which seems to be perpetrated on the newcomers you people from the Left rejoice in.

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2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

We appear to be less successful than we were when we had half the population we do now.

Our infrastructure does not appear to have improved. Quite the contrary.

And yet, we seem to not have such employees and have to import hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers, and still more immigrants to do these jobs. Fifty years ago we didn't need foreigners and immigrants to do them. Canadian born people did them.

Population is irrelevant. Population GROWTH is the issue. And that issue is compounded by the fact that all of that growth is from immigration, even the most compatible immigrants still take time to establish themselves.  We are growing the population faster than we're growing housing, education, medicine, etc  AND we're not giving enough time for them to integrate before the next batch lands.  

That's what's leading to our problems. 

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19 hours ago, carepov said:

We are a growing and successful nation thanks to mass immigration over the last 160 years.

We have a huge country that requires very expensive infrastructure.  The larger the population the cheaper/more efficient the infrastructure.

Immigration helps to ensure that we have enough workers, for example in the fields of child care, health care and elderly care.

Hey, we're talking about "MASS" immigration, not normal immigration that benefits the country if immigrants are properly selected.  We do need some immigration.   The past 160 years was not always mass immigration as you claimed.

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3 hours ago, blackbird said:

Hey, we're talking about "MASS" immigration, not normal immigration that benefits the country if immigrants are properly selected.  We do need some immigration.   The past 160 years was not always mass immigration as you claimed.

Nobody even knows what 'Mass" immigration means. Years of asking and i've never seen a single actual definition other than 'well i think it means a lot"

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On 7/23/2024 at 12:29 AM, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Hello, I found this article on Druthers.ca, one of the remaining true newspapers in Canada.  The author talks about the effects of mass immigration on Canada.  I will post an excerpt below, to give you guys an idea.  You can also see the full article here: https://druthers.ca/ten-reasons-to-rethink-mass-immigration-to-canada/

It's funny how often he seems to find/come across these articles from Druthers.ca...

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That's one way to spend your advertising dollars...I guess.  🤣

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16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is a perfect example of why we can not have a discussion about anything of real value in this country any more....Frankly i'm tired of the same old leftist bullshit, your a racist ,

The Leftist bullshit of pointing out a racist argument as a racist argument you mean?
Like being against immigration because it upset it affects the racial demographic of our nation?
Couldn't be anymore textbook racist argument if you tried.

Well get used to it buddy, post shit like that and you'll get called out for it no matter how hard you lay on the floor kicking and screaming that it's not racist and you're not racist just because you meet the dictionary defintion of it.
Some of us are sick of the pandering and welcoming people like that as fellow conservatives when they're anything but.

If you object to something because of the colour, the religion or culture of people, that is racism. Period. No f*cking argument is possible about it.
And simply being too f*cking scared to say 'X people steal hubcaps, eat fried chicken and watermelons" doesn't mean it's all over and done with and you can still say "Y people are all terrorists and Z people are all liars and thieves and W people are vermin" and claim that's not racist.
As is pretty much this "any opportunity offered any group is discrimination against me" bullshit, especially when you tack on "me.a white christian male" crap.

So I toss your objection right back in your face and say that I'm not eating that crap. When you toss shit and pretend it's candy, I'll tell you you're tossing shit.

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1 minute ago, herbie said:

The Leftist bullshit of pointing out a racist argument as a racist argument you mean?

The leftist bullshit of claiming non racist arguments are racist instead of addressing the issues because doing so would conflict with their talking points 

Math is racist now according to the left :) 

This is why people are abandoning the left by the million. Trudeau and singh are so low in the polls they're thinking of giving up politics and forming a limbo team.  Kids are flocking to the right to have some hope at a future again.  Becasue PP tells the truth and is honest whereas you spew hatred and garbage that has nothing to do with reality. 

But hey - at least you can triple the value of your home overnight with just a credit card :) 

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2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Me tribe GOOOD.  
 

You tribe BAAAAD. 

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You tribe GOOOD

He tribe BAAAAD

Me tribe BUTTHURT AND ANGRY :)  

-Moonbox :) 

Probably because your liberals have run the country into the ground so bad that they won't be back in power for 100 years at this rate. 

Otherwise you'd have refuted my points... but you can't. Sooooo - butthurt insults it is :) 

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32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Otherwise you'd have refuted my points... but you can't. Sooooo - butthurt insults it is :) 

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You weren't making any points, smooth-brain.  You were just ranting.  🥱

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3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

"The best way to convince people that you're not butthurt, is spiral out into emoji spam and insist the other guy is getting butthurt. " 

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You weren't making any points, smooth-brain.  You were just ranting.  🥱

"The things i say always make me look stupid, so i've decided to fake quotes from Cdnfox in the hopes that my words might make HIM look stupid instead of me for a change. Please like me!"

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Of course i made points, but as usual you're only reason to be here is your rage over constantly looking like the village tard whenever we talk.

People are sick of the woke and the dumb.  They're sick of 'liberals' and dippers federally and Herbie is a perfect example of why. EVERYTHING's racist, (including math) and if you DAAAARE to disagree you're a racist too. Don't like the inflation and economy? That's racist.  Have concerns about immigration? That's racist.  Want to have an honest discussion about the very real issues around cultural conflicts that come with immigration done wrong as seen in europe? THat's racist.   Feel like having lunch? oooo you bet that's racist. 

People are done with that crap.  And chasing around after me pretending that pointing that out makes me tribal just makes it worse. You guys on the left completely blew it and people are done with you. 

 

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