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"Terry Glavin: Mélanie Joly can't wait to make up with China's dictators"

"It’s a circle that can’t be easily squared.

On the one hand, there’s the spectacle of Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly happily abasing herself at the feet of Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Beijing on Friday after being summoned to China to take instruction on how Canada should behave itself as Xi Jinping persists in flouting international trade rules, accelerates his encirclement of Taiwan and pours ever greater resources into Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

On the other hand, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland begins consultations with business and labour groups this week to discuss how to deal with what she calls “unfair Chinese trade practices.” The measures are expected to include some degree of conformity with stiff American and imminent European tariffs on electric vehicles and other Chinese imports.

In an interview about the consultations with Bloomberg News, Freeland offered a rare and candid admission of the calamitous error the Liberals are generally disinclined to mention out loud, namely that “China’s entry to the World Trade Organization more than two decades ago,” which former prime minister and lifelong China-trade enthusiast Jean Chrétien championed, “was a mistake.”

That China’s admission to the WTO was a colossal error, a cross-partisan consensus that has emerged in recent years in the NATO capitals, has been coming to the fore quite a bit lately. “I think it’s high time for us to be clear-eyed about that,” Freeland said.

 

The Americans are clear-eyed about it, across the board. Earlier this year, a report released by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai noted that rather than bringing China into the norms of the international trading system, China is using its place within the WTO to undermine the system. “It has been 22 years since China acceded to the WTO, and China still embraces a state-directed, non-market approach to the economy and trade, which runs counter to the norms and principles embodied by the WTO.”

That’s Freeland’s standpoint. But Joly is a Chrétien protegee, and her mission in Beijing is just another milestone in the Trudeau Liberals’ efforts to restore relations to the warmth and intimacy they’d been nurturing with the Chinese Communist Party leadership until public revulsion got in the way fairly decisively in December, 2018.

That’s when the Chinese Ministry of State Security abducted on-leave diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor in retaliation for the detention in Vancouver of Huawei Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. fraud and sanctions-evasion warrant.

It was only a few months after Kovrig and Spavor were released following a plea deal Meng’s lawyers concluded with the U.S. justice department that a series of leaks from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service revealed that the Trudeau government had been sitting on explosive evidence that China had been deeply involved in monkeywrenching the 2019 and 2021 federal elections to the Liberals’ advantage.

Right through these tumultuous disruptions to Canada-China relations, however, the Liberals have been intent on maintaining the advantage and status that Liberal-friendly Canadian corporations had secured in trade policy and foreign policy.

After four years of Liberal promises to bring Canada’s approach to China into the 21st century, the November, 2022 federal Indo-Pacific Strategy contained the smidgen of an acknowledgement that Chinese strongman Xi Jinping’s state-capitalist kleptocracy had caused severe structural damage to the West’s liberal rules-based global order.

But then Trudeau more or less detonated the Indo-Pacific Strategy by rising in the House of Commons last September to accuse the government of Indian prime minister Narendra Modi of being linked to the murder of a Canadian, Hardeep Singh Nijjar, at a Sikh temple in Surrey, B.C. Indo-Canadian relations went straight into the dumpster and there’s no “reset” in the works.

In Beijing on Friday, Wang Yi left little to the imagination in what China will expect of Canada in the back-to-the-future relationship Joly is hoping to restore. We should shut up about Beijing’s evisceration of Hong Kong’s democracy and its trampling of civil liberties there. We should shut up about the brutal oppression of the Muslim-minority Uyghur people of Xinjiang, and we should mind our business about Beijing’s menacing manoeuvres in the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea.

We’re turning the clock all the way back to 2016, when Wang famously berated, badgered, insulted and lectured the reporter Amanda Connolly in a long harangue in the lobby of Global Affairs headquarters in Ottawa. At a news conference, Connolly had put a question to Stéphane Dion, Canada’s foreign affairs minister at time, about how Canada intended to press its concerns about Beijing’s judicial abductions, the violations of solemn civil rights commitments Beijing had made, and so on.

“Your question is full of prejudice against China and arrogance,” Wang blurted. “This is totally unacceptable. . . I would like to suggest to you that please don’t ask questions in such an irresponsible manner.” Dion, standing at Wang’s side, just stood there looking pathetic.

Over the weekend, Joly was positively bubbly about her reception in Beijing. There was the usual boast about Canada’s alleged defence of its democracy “and the values it has always stood for, including human rights.” But the main point of the meeting was to reaffirm a policy of “pragmatic engagement” and “the development of sound and stable bilateral relations.”

Joly’s visit came in the wake of NATO’s 32 member-state consensus statement two weeks ago, which fingered  China as a “decisive enabler” of  Russia’s war on Ukraine through its “no limits” partnership and its “large-scale support for Russia’s defence-industrial base,” the NATO statement declared.

“This increases the threat Russia poses to its neighbours and to Euro-Atlantic security.” Beijing should “cease all material and political support to Russia’s war effort,” including “the transfer of dual-use materials, such as weapons components, equipment and raw materials that serve as inputs for Russia’s defence sector. The PRC (People’s Republic of China) cannot enable the largest war in Europe in recent history without this negatively impacting its interests and reputation.”

Beijing “continues to pose systemic challenges to Euro-Atlantic security” by engaging in “sustained malicious cyber and hybrid activities, including disinformation,” the statement read.

It’s all well and good to engage in Joly-style “pragmatic engagement,” but NATO’s members are “boosting our shared awareness, enhancing our resilience and preparedness, and protecting against the PRC’s coercive tactics and efforts to divide the Alliance.”

Wang Yi’s invitation to Joly and her submission to his requirements for a renewed Canada-China relationship are consistent with that coercion and of a piece with Beijing’s efforts to divide NATO against itself.

It is not clear that Joly understands this, or that she even particularly cares.

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Terry Glavin: Mélanie Joly can't wait to make up with China's dictators (msn.com)

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I use to subscribe to the National Post...10+ years ago. 

That was back when it did some semblance of journalism and wasn't just a depository of useless, ranting opinion pieces.  

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3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I use to subscribe to the National Post...10+ years ago. 

That was back when it did some semblance of journalism and wasn't just a depository of useless, ranting opinion pieces.  

Spoken like a good leftist/liberal who doesn't know what is going on in the world or likes authoritarian Communist countries.  Too bad you don't understand how they are meddling with Canada's political system, interfering with elections, and spreading their tentacles through western democracies to undermine them.  Dealing with the Devil has its consequences.

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China's human rights record is just one reason why Canada should not be trying to cozy up to China.  I wonder if there may be a clique of elite business people in Canada who may have business dealings with China.  Perhaps they are pressuring the Canadian government.  Since there is billions of dollars worth of goods made in China and sold in Canada, that may be the driving force behind the government trying to smooth things with the Chinese government.  The question is should business take precedence over human rights violations in China?

Human Rights Watch's 2023 report on 2022 gives extensive information on what has been going on.  Here are a couple items.  For the full report go to this link:

World Report 2023: China | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)

"The Chinese government tightened its Covid-19 restrictions, imposing repeated, unpredictable lockdowns on hundreds of millions of people. In some cases, officials used barbed wire, metal bars, and large barriers to prevent people from leaving their homes. In Sichuan province, residents were unable to leave buildings even during an earthquake. During these lockdowns—which lasted from days to weeks—people reported difficulties accessing food and medical care, in some cases leading to deaths. Others reported privacy violations, censorship, disruptions to their livelihoods, and government brutality as police and health officials kicked and shoved people who resisted Covid restrictions. In Tibet and Xinjiang, residents reported even more draconian Covid-19 controls imposed by local authorities already severely limiting rights."

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Tibet

Authorities in Tibetan areas continue to enforce severe restrictions on freedoms of religion, expression, movement, and assembly. Popular concerns over issues such as mass relocation, environmental degradation, or the phasing out of the Tibetan language in primary education were met with repression. Local officials are required to educate the public in “obeying the law,” and cash rewards are offered to citizens prepared to inform on others.

Under intense censorship, Tibetans continue to be detained for online offenses, such as having banned content on their phones or “spreading rumors.” Authorities introduced a ban on posting religious teaching and other content online, intended to enforce tight official control over religious institutions and teachers. In a Tibetan area of Sichuan province, regional authorities ordered the demolition of outdoor statues and temples, the construction of which had initially been approved."

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Freedom of Religion

State control over religion has increased since 2016, when Xi called for “Sinicization” of religions. Going beyond controlling religion by dictating what constitutes “normal,” and therefore legal, religious activity, authorities now seek to comprehensively reshape religions such that they are consistent with the party’s ideology and that they help promote allegiance to the party and to Xi.

Police continue to harass, arrest, and imprison leaders and members of “house churches,” congregations that refuse to join official Catholic and Protestant churches. Authorities also disrupt their peaceful activities and ban them outright. In September, dozens of members of a Shenzhen church fled to Thailand to seek refuge after having left China three years ago due to escalating police harassment and after they failed to secure refugee status in South Korea. The group reported being monitored by Chinese government agents in Thailand.

The new Measures on the Administration of Internet Religious Information Services came into effect in March, prohibiting individuals or groups from teaching or otherwise propagating religion online without official approval. A widely used Catholic app, CathAssist, shut down in August because it was unable to obtain a license. The regulations have reportedly severely disrupted people’s religious life as many have increasingly relied on online religious gatherings and information especially during the Covid-19 pandemic.

In October 2022, the Vatican and the Chinese government renewed an agreement signed in 2018. It was renewed despite the Chinese government’s arrest of Cardinal Joseph Zen and the continued detentions of Bishops Zhang Weizhu and Cui Tai, among others."

 

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Dealing with the Devil has its consequences.

So does warning people about the consequences and talking about no truck nor trade with China or any dictator for that matter. Doing that just a few short decades ago only got you labeled and cancelled as an anti-capitalist commie/Nazi around these parts.

The main and IMO more telling thing that never changes with you people is your fetish for using the same terms to label and cancel others.

Anyway, I've been extremely skeptical about the notion that our wheeling and dealing with dictatorships would make them more like us for years and have been warning the opposite is far more likely.

It's hilariously ironic that it's you people who are now convinced we're already being ruled by fascists and commies.

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Dealing with the Devil has its consequences.

Not as many as having to accommodate and suffer you exceedingly stupid stupid people. It never dawned on me that one of consequences of truckin' and tradin' would be even stupider right wing conservatives.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Freedom of religion or freedom of thought is technically non-existent in China.  One must adhere to and bow to the Communist system ideology and party.

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In the history of the Peoples Republic of China (PRC), President Xi Jinping is the first paramount leader to give prominence to religion in word and deed. In a major speech in 2016, Xi called for the ‘sinicization of religion’. He noted that, given the rise of religion among the Chinese people, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) must ‘guide the adaptation of religions to socialist society’. In its academic sense, ‘sinicization of religion’ refers to the indigenization of religious faith, practice, and ritual in Chinese culture and society. For Xi, however, ‘sinicization’ is profoundly political. It requires religious leaders and institutions demonstrably to embrace State Socialism and the leadership of the CCP.

Ideological, legal, and bureaucratic, Xi’s ‘sinicization’ campaign is one part of a pervasive ideological re-education and remoulding campaign that recalls the campaigns of the 1950s and 1960s to anchor Chinese national identity firmly within the ideology and rule of the CCP. Among religious groups where the primacy of that identity is resisted, ‘sinicization’ has even entailed the imprisonment of vast numbers of Uighur, Kazakh, and Hui Muslims as well as intractable Christian leaders. Accordingly, ‘sinicization’ is no mere slogan, but a religious policy to enforce three key priorities of the CCP:

 to streamline the bureaucracy for efficient oversight and control of all non-Party spheres and institutions;

 to revive the sway of Party ideology over all aspects of life in China; and

 to remove any ‘contradiction’ that might challenge Party ideology and rule.

In March 2018, the CPPCC put in place the necessary ideological, legal, and bureaucratic structure to enforce ‘sinicization’ of religion.

Party control

In March 2018, the National People’s Congress and the Chinese Peoples’ Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) put in place the necessary ideological, legal, and bureaucratic structure to enforce ‘sinicization’ of religion. It reduced the plethora of official departments that have multiplied with growth of religious followers and affiliated churches, mosques, and temples. For Protestants, the China Christian Council (CCC), the Three-Self Patriotic Association (TSPM), Religious Affairs Bureau (RAB), and the State Administration of Religious Affairs (SARA) have seen their oversight powers transferred to the Party’s United Front Work Department (UFWD).

This has effectively swept clean the differing and overlapping bureaucracy that had diffused and diminished the state’s ability to control Christian growth and influence. Under the new religious policy, the old bureaucracies live on, but now in name only, as their powers over churches and church leaders are now firmly in the hands of the UFWD.

With control of all non-party institutions under the UFWD, the state now has a direct conduit speedily to enforce policy and control—or even end any relationship with overseas individuals and organizations they deem a threat to official ideology, security, or state control. This has allowed the UFWD to enforce religious oversight locally so as to cut off national and international connections that had been encouraged through the auspices of the TSPM and CCC. This leaves registered churches controlled locally or at best regionally with little access to international Christian networks. Thus, even as the UFWD now enforces national religious policy, its control will be enforced directly in given localities.   

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The Sinicization of Religion in China - Lausanne Movement

 

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35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So does warning people about the consequences and talking about no truck nor trade with China or any dictator for that matter. Doing that just a few short decades ago only got you labeled and cancelled as an anti-capitalist commie/Nazi around these parts.

The main and IMO more telling thing that never changes with you people is your fetish for using the same terms to label and cancel others.

Anyway, I've been extremely skeptical about the notion that our wheeling and dealing with dictatorships would make them more like us for years and have been warning the opposite is far more likely.

It's hilariously ironic that it's you people who are now convinced we're already being ruled by fascists and commies.

Not as many as having to accommodate and suffer you exceedingly stupid stupid people. It never dawned on me that one of consequences of truckin' and tradin' would be even stupider right wing conservatives.

It's low information posters as far as I can tell.

If they're against trading with human rights abusers, well we always have done this so... I am interested in having them explain how to reboot our policy to be woke in this way.

Instead we have a lot of details of China's misdeeds.  

Sure, let's all be shocked and go back in time and scold Nixon... 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

If they're against trading with human rights abusers, well we always have done this so... I am interested in having them explain how to reboot our policy to be woke in this way.

By supporting Putin and Russia' struggle against the Nazis that took over Ukraine.

I suspect the surreality of it all would even give Orwell a headache.

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5 hours ago, blackbird said:

Too bad you don't understand how they are meddling with Canada's political system, interfering with elections, and spreading their tentacles through western democracies to undermine them.  

I do understand all of that, and I don't even disagree with what you're saying.  

That doesn't make the article you quote any less of a useless stream-of-consciousness rant in the opinion section of a rag newspaper.  The article offers nothing but angry conjecture, supposition and retarded conclusions - chicken soup for the ignorant.  Of course you posted it here.  🥱

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7 hours ago, Moonbox said:

The article offers nothing but angry conjecture, supposition and retarded conclusions - chicken soup for the ignorant.  Of course you posted it here.  🥱

Could you please post some statements in the subject article which you believe are false and give explanations why?

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Other reasons why Minister Joly's cozying up to China doesn't make sense is because China is aligned with Russia against Ukraine and now appears to be aligned with Palestinian terrorist organizations.

A news item shows China is aligning itself with Hamas ( a designated terrorist organization) and Fatah. 

Rival Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah sign ‘Beijing declaration’ of unity after China talks (msn.com)

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The two largest rival Palestinian factions, Hamas and Fatah, have signed a declaration to end their longstanding rift and instead fight for “Palestinian unity” in a deal brokered by Beijing, Chinese state media said.

The deal came at the end of reconciliation talks in Beijing where a total of 14 Palestinian political factions met with Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi."

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13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Not as many as having to accommodate and suffer you exceedingly stupid stupid people. It never dawned on me that one of consequences of truckin' and tradin' would be even stupider right wing conservatives.

Let's keep the conversation civil, intelligent, and constructive if possible.

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1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Let's keep the conversation civil, intelligent, and constructive if possible.

I tried that decades ago. In the meantime try following your own advice and stop posting unintelligent crap and refrain from cancelling/labelling people by comparing them to the worst mass murderers in human history.  In any case its great to see people like you finally speaking out against our cozy relations with dictators. Took you long enough and while it's too little too late it's better than never.  It's even a little vindicating actually.

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37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

stop posting unintelligent crap and refrain from cancelling/labelling people by comparing them to the worst mass murderers in human history

What unintelligent crap?  Quote?

Who did I compare to the worst mass murderers?  Quote?

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6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Who did I compare to the worst mass murders?  Quote?

 

18 hours ago, blackbird said:

Spoken like a good leftist/liberal who doesn't know what is going on in the world or likes authoritarian Communist countries.

Casting guilt and complicity by association is no different than comparing.

You also have a bad habit of viewing things through a lens that compares lefties to Satanists and if Satan doesn't qualify as a mass murderer then who does?

And of course don't forget God's wiped out huge swaths of humanity on occasion too.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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19 hours ago, blackbird said:

Spoken like a good leftist/liberal who doesn't know what is going on in the world or likes authoritarian Communist countries.

Casting guilt and complicity by association is no different than comparing.

That is not comparing leftis/liberals with mass murderers.  You lied.

I said leftist/liberals either don't know what is going on in the world or they like authoritarian Communist countries (like China).

Trudeau said he admires Communist China years ago.  The Liberals have been trying to downplay and evade the foreign interference issue for a long time now.  So my comment is accurate and had nothing to do with mass murderers as you claimed.  The fact that the Communists were mass murderers in the past does not negate what I said.  It only proves we should be having nothing to do with them.

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22 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The fact that the Communists were mass murderers in the past does not negate what I said.  It only proves we should be having nothing to do with them

What about people in the present that like them?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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15 hours ago, blackbird said:

Could you please post some statements in the subject article which you believe are false and give explanations why?

No.  I'm not putting any more effort into this than you did, copypasting this balogna rant.  

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Perhaps the Trudeau government does not know the extent of human rights violations in China.

They should read the 2023 Human Rights report on China published by the U.S. Department of State.

This is just a small part of it:

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Political Prisoners and Detainees

Government officials continued to deny holding any political prisoners, asserting persons were detained not for their political or religious views but because they had violated the law. Authorities, however, continued to imprison citizens for reasons related to politics and religion or spiritual beliefs. Human rights organizations estimated thousands of political prisoners (not counting persons held in Xinjiang) remained incarcerated, most in prisons and some in administrative detention. The government did not grant international humanitarian NGOs or UN agencies access to political prisoners. Prison authorities at times withheld medical treatment from political prisoners.

Many political prisoners remained either in prison or held under other forms of detention, including writer Yang Maodong (pen name Guo Feixiong); Uyghur scholars Ilham Tohti, Rahile Dawut, and Hushtar Isa, brother of World Uyghur Congress president Dolkun Isa; retired Uyghur medical doctor Gulshan Abbas; Uyghur entrepreneur Ekpar Asat; Tibetan Buddhist monk Go Sherab Gyatso; Tibetan Dorje Tashi; activists Wang Bingzhang, Chen Jianfang, and Huang Qi; pastors Zhang Shaojie and Wang Yi; Falun Gong practitioner Zhou Deyong; Catholic Auxiliary Bishop of Shanghai Thaddeus Ma Daqin; rights lawyers and activists Xia Lin, Gao Zhisheng, Xu Zhiyong, Ding Jiaxi, Xu Yan, Yu Wensheng, Chang Weiping, and Li Yuhan; citizen journalist Zhang Zhan; Shanghai labor activist Jiang Cunde; and others.

Criminal punishments included “deprivation of political rights” for a fixed period after release from prison, during which an individual could be denied rights of free speech, association, and publication. Former prisoners reported their ability to find employment, travel, obtain residence permits and passports, rent residences, and access social services was severely restricted.

Authorities frequently subjected former political prisoners and their families to surveillance, telephone wiretaps, searches, and other forms of harassment or threats.

f. Transnational Repression

The government and its agents engaged in acts to intimidate or exact reprisals against individuals outside of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), including against Uyghurs and other ethnic minority group members, religious and spiritual practitioners, dissidents, foreign journalists, and PRC students and faculty members on campuses and in academic institutions overseas.

In April Freedom House in its transnational repression report stated the country engaged in transnational repression, including physical and digital threats and intimidation, coercion by proxy, technical espionage, unexplained disappearances, and the abuse of Interpol procedures. Freedom House reported that the government coopted other countries into conducting renditions on its behalf.

Extraterritorial Killing, Kidnapping, Forced Returns, or Other Violence or Threats of Violence: The Economist reported in June that PRC police officers subjected a Uyghur woman in Turkey to psychological torture, including by berating her, asking her to post naked photographs of herself on WeChat, and threatening to imprison her family members in Xinjiang. This experience caused the woman to suffer panic attacks and be hospitalized multiple times.

Threats, Harassment, Surveillance, and Coercion: Safeguard Defenders reported in August that PRC officials surveilled and harassed Turkey-based family members of Uyghurs living in Xinjiang, relying on networks of Uyghur informants in Turkey – themselves often victims of transnational repression – to collect information for use in coercing family members abroad into silence or support for PRC policies.

Media reported the China Student and Scholar Association functioned as an overseas monitoring mechanism and information network for authorities, suppressing independent academic activity in third countries. This institution allegedly tracked and reported on PRC students with prodemocracy views, leading to intimidation and bullying.

Media reported that PRC students studying abroad expressed heightened concerns about returning home due to the revised counter-espionage law, which raised fears of potential surveillance and reprisals. The revised law required the country’s citizens, including students abroad, to assist with intelligence work if requested by the government. Some students worried that their academic activities or contacts abroad could be deemed suspicious, leading to potential legal troubles upon their return.

On January 12, Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported PRC doctoral students admitted to Sweden via the Chinese Scholarship Council were obliged to sign secret agreements requiring them to pledge loyalty to the CCP, “serve the interests of the regime,” and never participate in activities against the will of PRC authorities. A breach of the agreement could reportedly result in fines for family members in China. In June the Friedrich Alexander University of Erlangen-Nuremberg in Germany suspended collaboration with students funded by the Chinese Scholarship Council, citing concerns about students’ contracts violating academic freedom. Universities in Denmark, the Netherlands, and elsewhere also cut ties with the council during the year for similar reasons.

In April a foreign government charged two PRC residents of the country with opening and operating an illegal overseas “police service station” as a provincial branch of the Ministry of Public Security. The accused allegedly organized counterprotests, participated in “persuade to return” and other harassment practices on behalf of the PRC government, and stalked prodemocracy activists.

In May a foreign government charged an individual with acting in the country as an agent of the PRC government by allegedly providing PRC officials with information on local individuals and organizations, organizing a counterprotest against prodemocracy dissidents, providing photographs of and information on dissidents to PRC government officials, and providing the names of potential recruits to the Ministry of Public Security.

On June 20, a foreign court convicted three men of harassing victims at the direction of PRC authorities and acting as foreign agents of the PRC government in that country.

Misuse of International Law Enforcement Tools: There were credible reports authorities attempted to misuse international law enforcement tools for politically motivated purposes as a reprisal against specific individuals outside the country.

On August 21, the Washington Post reported on the country’s law enforcement relationship with Fiji and PRC misuse of international law enforcement tools to project its police powers overseas. A 2011 police cooperation memorandum of understanding between the two countries, scrapped by Fiji on January 26, went beyond the normal scope of such agreements between other developing countries, the report stated.

Efforts to Control Mobility: There were reports the PRC attempted to control mobility to exact reprisal against citizens abroad. Authorities refused to renew passports for Uyghurs, Tibetans, and others living abroad.

Bilateral Pressure: There were credible reports that for politically motivated purposes, the PRC pressured other countries aimed at forcing those countries to take adverse action against specific individuals or groups."

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c. Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, and Other Related Abuses

The law prohibited the physical abuse and mistreatment of detainees and forbade prison guards from coercing confessions, insulting prisoners’ dignity, and beating or encouraging others to beat prisoners. The law excluded evidence obtained through illegal means, including coerced confessions, in certain categories of criminal cases. There were credible reports that authorities routinely ignored prohibitions against torture, especially in politically sensitive cases.

Former prisoners and detainees have reported they were beaten, raped, subjected to electric shock, forced to sit on stools for hours on end, hung by the wrists, deprived of sleep, force-fed, forced to take medication against their will, and otherwise subjected to physical and psychological abuse. Although prison authorities abused ordinary prisoners, they reportedly singled out political and religious dissidents for particularly harsh treatment.

In May 2022 Fuzhou-based human rights defender Liang Baiduan sued the municipal public security department for police brutality in March 2022 that resulted in broken ribs and injured tendons in his hands, according to media. Liang’s attorney appeared on his behalf at a January 29 hearing at a Fuzhou District Court.

The health of Zhang Zhan, sentenced to prison for four years in 2020 for her activities as a citizen journalist during the initial COVID-19 outbreak in Wuhan, continued to deteriorate while imprisoned in Shanghai; her weight dropped to less than 90 pounds. When Zhang went on a hunger strike in 2021, prison officials force-fed her, tying and chaining her arms, torso, and feet.

Members of the minority Uyghur ethnic group reported systematic torture and other degrading treatment by law enforcement officers and officials working within the penal system and internment camps.

The treatment and abuse of detainees under the liuzhi detention system, which operated outside the judicial system as a legal tool for the government and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to investigate corruption and other offenses by officials, featured extended solitary confinement, sleep deprivation, beatings, and forced standing or sitting in uncomfortable positions for hours and sometimes days, according to press reports.

The law stated psychiatric treatment and hospitalization should be “on a voluntary basis,” but the law failed to provide meaningful legal protections for persons who could be involuntarily committed, such as access to a lawyer or other advocate or the right to communicate with those outside the psychiatric institution.

Official media reported the Ministry of Public Security directly administered 23 psychiatric hospitals for the criminally insane. While many of those committed to mental health facilities were convicted of murder and other violent crimes, there were also reports of activists, religious or spiritual adherents, and petitioners being involuntarily subjected to psychiatric treatment for political reasons. Public security officials could commit individuals to psychiatric facilities and force treatment for “conditions” that had no basis in psychiatry.

On February 28, media reported church leaders Lian Changnian, Lian Xuliang, and Fu Juan were under RSDL throughout 2022 and were finally transferred to a detention center in February. While in RSDL, interrogators beat them, deprived them of food, blew smoke in their eyes, and denied them the use of toilets.

Impunity was a significant problem in the security forces, including the Ministry of Public Security, the Ministry of State Security, and the Ministry of Justice, which managed the prison system.  unquote

Canadians really need to learn this kind of thing.  I believe very few Canadians know what is going on in China.  What is the Minister of Foreign Affairs for Canada doing going to China while all this is going on?

China (Includes Hong Kong, Macau, and Tibet) - United States Department of State

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