Trump shot at his own rally

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

It's incredible that in this day and age, with all the information tools we have and all the technology that has advanced, we still have no consensus as to whom tried to kill Donald Trump and what was the motive. It seems like the version changes every minute.

MAGA CULT is master at muddying the waters. It's what they do.

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, you twit. The memo was "used." They tried to carry it out. WTF do you think Trump was talking about on Jan. 6 with regard to Pence? Why do you think Trump's insurrectionists were calling to "Hang Mike Pence"? The fake elector ballots were literally on the floor of the US Senate before Pence's people rejected them. 

Literally, the only thing that preserved democracy that day was that Pence refused to participate in the coup. 

The memo was not used. If it had been used, Pence would have delayed certification. It was a legal theory that Pence didn't agree with. And don't forget, dozens of Democrats called for not certifying electors in 2016. So, if you want to call J6 a coup attempt, then you have to call J6 2017 a coup attempt.

Alternate electors are normal. They are gathered in every contested election. Just because you call them fake, doesn't make them nefarious.

Now, because your other arguments were weak, you want to bring in this hang Pence crap? Really? So, in your fantasy, some aholes chant something and that means Trump is to blame? Do you even listen to yourself?

Edited July 14 by gatomontes99

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Everyone wants to be first to break the story, not necessarily be accurate. Plus a lot of people want certain things to be true. The left would prefer he just be a looney tune in love with George Clooney and claims he told him to kill Trump. The right wants it to be left wing progressive incited by violent rhetoric coming from the left wing politicians/media.

So any shred of evidence that flows that way they seize upon and report it as truth.

You mean like how the right wingers here were SURE he was a Democrat before he was even identified?

[User]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Literally, the only thing that preserved democracy that day was that Pence refused to participate in the coup. 

Please, tell me you don't really believe this garbage?

There is no way. It is just a stupid, exaggerated, fear-mongering talking point. 

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, sharkman said:

Pay attention.

This is because there is a struggle going on RIGHT NOW to gain control of the narrative.  Not the truth, but the narrative.  So the response of the people can be shaped and controlled.  To what end, I have no idea at this time.

The nonsense about Trump being the next hitler?  That's a conspiracy theory that has been planted in people by repeated viewing of nonsense, half truths and complete lies that get repeated often enough to become plausible to certain people.  They get duped.  The shooter was duped as well.

Many parts of the news media are nothing more than operations to control what people believe.

Yeah, like the LIES that Trump tells prolifically. "I'll be a dictator on day one" DJT

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Violence is STILL VIOLENCE even without a GUN. Duh

How about you get clocked in the head with a fire extinguisher?

Registered REPUBLICON, gnat boy.

Your sophistry is HILARIOUS.

As opposed to you...who's just pathetic.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Because there was no attempt to steal an election.

Just because YOU CLAIM ^THIS, does not make it true. It just makes you IGNORANT of all the plans that went into December 2020 leading up to Jan 6th.

That's what happens when you believe FOS LIES.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

No. It's a lie.

NO EVIDENCE of ^this. Plenty of evidence proving it's a lie.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Voter registration in an open thing so doesn't mean anything. 

Neither does ONE $15 donation. Registering mean he will vote in the RepubliCON primary.

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Just because YOU CLAIM ^THIS, does not make it true. It just makes you IGNORANT of all the plans that went into December 2020 leading up to Jan 6th.

That's what happens when you believe FOS LIES.

NO EVIDENCE of ^this. Plenty of evidence proving it's a lie.

That is a set of lies and fantasies you've been sold and willingly believed. That is why all of you are responsible for January 13th.

[User]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Yeah, like the LIES that Trump tells prolifically. "I'll be a dictator on day one" DJT

Give us the actual quote liar. 

That is not what he said. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

No. Everything you said is a lie.

^These OPINIONS of yours SANS EVIDENCE just destroy your credibility.

Have you even read/watched the Jan 6th committee SWORN TESTIMONY?

Until you do, your OPINIONS are completely UNINFORMED cause all you're watching is FOS LIES.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

You Libbies begged for it.

NOW all the sudden you're worried about abuse of power?

LOL...

Karma is a cold hearted b1tch...and I here her calling your names.

Begged for WHAT? Trump abusing HIS power to try to overturn the election. LMAO

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Trump had 4 years to overthrow the us government and he couldn't even manage the bare minimum of law and order in the blm riots.

BLM riots are almost completely local jurisdictions.

57 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

So your proof that Trump tried to take over the government is a memo that wasn't used, a speech that told people to march peacefully and patriotically and alternate electors that have been used dozens of times before, including JFK.

Your lies are so pervasive that you don't even know what reality is.

YOUR LIES prove that you BELIEVE Trump's DOUBLE TALK. AKA, CONNED. LMAO

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...when you lie your little ass off...do the other Libbies fight over your ass?

I NEVER LIE. But you continually suffer from cognitive dissonance. AKA inability to accept REALITY.

Like Jan 6th FELONS NOT being in Rikers. LMAO

[Five of swords]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

BLM riots are almost completely local jurisdictions.

YOUR LIES prove that you BELIEVE Trump's DOUBLE TALK. AKA, CONNED. LMAO

If local jurisdictions fail to provide the basic level of security that is required for a state to be legitimate, then the federal government has a responsibility to intervene.

 

It failed. And nobody really has a reason to trust that their taxes are useful for anything.

[sharkman]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Neither does ONE $15 donation. Registering mean he will vote in the RepubliCON primary.

Apparently you are unaware of the democrat strategy to registrar as a republican so you can try to sway a republican primary.   No idea what the shooter was(rep/dem), but giving money to a political organization when you are so young, that's an activist right there.

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, Legato said:

That is much more desirable than the Dems who have their brains installed upside down.

Thanks for proving once again you're nothing but a TROLL.

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

BLM riots are almost completely local jurisdictions.

YOUR LIES prove that you BELIEVE Trump's DOUBLE TALK. AKA, CONNED. LMAO

Say's the guy who stands in the middle of an apple orchard complaining there are no lemons.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yeah, okay, but it was Trump's extremely inflammatory language that inspired those people on Oc 6. Or have you forgotten his speech where he told them they'd have to 'fight like hell' or else 'you won't have a country anymore'. 

 

Jan 6 i assume you meant ( oct 7 was isreal, so easy to mix the dates).   Here's the thing.  If you believe that was true then you MUST believe that the democrats are 100 percent responsible for this shooting due to their rhetoric which was far worse concerning trump. Democracy is dead if trump wins, if trump wins this is the last election we ever have... blah blah blah. 

I personally believe the rioters are responsiblie for the riot and the shooter is responsible for the shooting. We can look at the role heated rhetoric plays but at the end of the day those people made a decision. 

Quote

 

And inflammatory language is his stock in trade. The guy recently said that if he's elected he wants to put Liz Cheney on a 'televised military trial' (wtf?). 

 

And the dems said that they should pull his secret service because he's so terrible he doesn't deserve to be kept alive.   Let that sink in. 

Any rhetoric that you come up with for trump i can do one better from the dems.  Trump says the car industry will  be a bloodbath under biden,   biden says trump promises bloodbaths in the street if he doesn't win.  etc etc. 

this shooting didn't happen because of something trump said, that's almost guaranteed.  If anything it'll be something the dems said. 

So. THat's where we're at.  If you think or have ever claimed trump should go to trial because his rhetoric lead to Jan6 will you now call for the arrest and charge of many democrats as co-conspirators to attempted murder?

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for proving once again you're nothing but a TROLL.

I rest my case.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I NEVER LIE.

ROFLMAO!!!  Except right there..... 

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

The memo was not used. If it had been used, Pence would have delayed certification. It was a legal theory that Pence didn't agree with. And don't forget, dozens of Democrats called for not certifying electors in 2016. So, if you want to call J6 a coup attempt, then you have to call J6 2017 a coup attempt.

Alternate electors are normal. They are gathered in every contested election. Just because you call them fake, doesn't make them nefarious.

Now, because your other arguments were weak, you want to bring in this hang Pence crap? Really? So, in your fantasy, some aholes chant something and that means Trump is to blame? Do you even listen to yourself?

You do know that the POTUS has far more power than "dozens of anonymous Democrats" don't you?

They started that "hang" chant IN RESPONSE to a Trump tweet saying Pence was a 'naughty boy.' AKA not cooperating with Trump.

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Say's the guy who stands in the middle of an apple orchard complaining there are no lemons.

 

1 minute ago, Legato said:

I rest my case.

TROLL proven AGAIN.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You do know that the POTUS has far more power than "dozens of anonymous Democrats" don't you?

They started that "hang" chant IN RESPONSE to a Trump tweet saying Pence was a 'naughty boy.' AKA not cooperating with Trump.

 

TROLL proven AGAIN.

Yes in A Gain of Thrones.

[Hodad]

47 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

The memo was not used. If it had been used, Pence would have delayed certification. It was a legal theory that Pence didn't agree with. And don't forget, dozens of Democrats called for not certifying electors in 2016. So, if you want to call J6 a coup attempt, then you have to call J6 2017 a coup attempt.

Alternate electors are normal. They are gathered in every contested election. Just because you call them fake, doesn't make them nefarious.

Now, because your other arguments were weak, you want to bring in this hang Pence crap? Really? So, in your fantasy, some aholes chant something and that means Trump is to blame? Do you even listen to yourself?

You are ridiculous. They put every element of the coup memo into action and did a full-court press on Pence to coerce him into violating his oath. Pence wouldn't play along. And it was a "legal theory" that no one agreed with. The author himself acknowledged that it was illegal. 

Alternate electors are not common, but could be seen as a reasonable preparation in a close race with pending recount. That was not the case with Trump. There was were no close counts on Jan. 6 when they sent those certificates to the floor of the Senate. That was done solely and exclusively in service of the attempt to overthrow democracy. 

And yes, OF COURSE Trump is to blame for his fanatics calling for Pence's head. Who the fark do you think was lying to them about Pence's options and obligations. Pence was a loyal enabler until the very last bright line he wouldn't cross. The MAGA crowd loved him, until Trump told them not to. 

You're just being a clown here. This shit all happened and is recorded history that any literature person can read about. If you support the attempted coup because the end justifies any means, have the courage to own your convictions. But to pretend like it didn't happen just makes you look ridiculous.

39 minutes ago, User said:

Please, tell me you don't really believe this garbage?

There is no way. It is just a stupid, exaggerated, fear-mongering talking point. 

 

No exaggeration whatsoever. Mike Pence, of all unlikely heroes, saved the Republic.

Edited July 14 by Hodad

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You mean the nonsense, half-truths and complete lies Trump and his party put out every day?

I agree he's not the next Hitler. He's not smart enough. 

 

And here we have the blind spot of the left.  Only able to see propaganda coming from one side.  But then an event happens that embarrasses the media sources they trust, and their programming kicks in instead of critical thinking.

Like Biden's atrocious debate performance, which FORCED the media to admit something that the right has known for 3 years.  Biden has dementia.  He can't remember simple things unless he's pumped up with drugs.  The left's response is not to ask, " hey, why did my trusted news sources hide Biden's dementia from me for 3 years?".  Because hey, Trump is the next hitler, which is just another simpleton theory that can be disproved in 5 seconds. 

Keep on drinking that kool aid, bro. 

[User]

7 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No exaggeration whatsoever. Mike Pence, of all unlikely heroes, saved the Republic.

This is, without a doubt, beyond ignorant. 

But hey, lets see if you have really thought this through. I don't need a huge thesis here, just spell it out in an outline format the big picture of how that would have played out exactly. Give me some bullet points.