myata Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Honestly: I don't have confidence that Joe can make decisions, from that perspective 1) rationally and 2) responsibly. I can be wrong and I admit it. Joe can be wrong and to remain on the side of sanity, he has to retain the ability to admit it. No one is above the reality. So, this is the way to resolve this. A gathering of individuals of honesty and integrity can have a long conversation with Joe and as a result, determine the best candidate to stand for the sane America. It can be Joe; or it can be someone else. The best candidate for America has to stand, and it doesn't have to be Joe. It's about America, its future and that of the free world. Too much is at stake for personal ambitions. The fate of democracy was always in the hands of its citizens. We used to know but we forgot. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 24 minutes ago, myata said: So, this is the way to resolve this. A gathering of individuals of honesty and integrity can have a long conversation with Joe and as a result, determine the best candidate to stand for the sane America. You mean hold a nomination. That's how they got Joe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 Those of us who were aware of Joe's diminished mental capacity long before the 2020 election were aware that the teleprompter guy was running the country (don't take that literally, it just means that the 'power behind the throne' had 100% control). Do you know where I'm going with this? The abject failures of the last 4 years aren't just Biden's. They're DNC failures. Joe's presidency is best summed up by his Kabul drone strike: it was a poorly planned and hasty reaction to a terrible situation which he was entirely responsible for and it killed a bunch of kids. If you compare that to his presidency it's the same thing, just on a broader, less compressed scale. With the DNC's lack of foresight and intelligence committee in charge of everything, families in Europe and the ME are living in war zones, and families around the world are noticing the rising cost of food and diminishing quality of life. Trump's presidency is well-represented by his Iraq drone strike: it was carefully planned and showed great courage and capability. If you compare that to his presidency it's the same thing, just on a broader, less compressed scale. With Trump in charge the economy was growing, families in Europe were at peace, he brought peace to the ME, and families around the world were noticing the lowering cost of energy, the stability of their economies, and increasing quality of life. I'd way rather have another 2017-20120 than a 2021-2024, just without the covid scam. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Those of us who were aware of Joe's diminished mental capacity long before the 2020 election were aware that the teleprompter guy was running the country (don't take that literally, it just means that the 'power behind the throne' had 100% control). Do you know where I'm going with this? The abject failures of the last 4 years aren't just Biden's. They're DNC failures. Joe's presidency is best summed up by his Kabul drone strike: it was a poorly planned and hasty reaction to a terrible situation which he was entirely responsible for and it killed a bunch of kids. If you compare that to his presidency it's the same thing, just on a broader, less compressed scale. With the DNC's lack of foresight and intelligence committee in charge of everything, families in Europe and the ME are living in war zones, and families around the world are noticing the rising cost of food and diminishing quality of life. Trump's presidency is well-represented by his Iraq drone strike: it was carefully planned and showed great courage and capability. If you compare that to his presidency it's the same thing, just on a broader, less compressed scale. With Trump in charge the economy was growing, families in Europe were at peace, he brought peace to the ME, and families around the world were noticing the lowering cost of energy, the stability of their economies, and increasing quality of life. I'd way rather have another 2017-20120 than a 2021-2024, just without the covid scam. Yeah. I'm not sure if that was the plan since day one when he ran for office but hes' very clearly just a puppet now and doesn't have much say in anything.  Pinocchi-joe if you will. Just not a real boy anymore.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 38 minutes ago, myata said: Honestly: I don't have confidence that Joe can make decisions, from that perspective 1) rationally and 2) responsibly. I can be wrong and I admit it. Joe can be wrong and to remain on the side of sanity, he has to retain the ability to admit it. No one is above the reality. So, this is the way to resolve this. A gathering of individuals of honesty and integrity can have a long conversation with Joe and as a result, determine the best candidate to stand for the sane America. It can be Joe; or it can be someone else. The best candidate for America has to stand, and it doesn't have to be Joe. It's about America, its future and that of the free world. Too much is at stake for personal ambitions. The fate of democracy was always in the hands of its citizens. We used to know but we forgot. No one is above reality he says...good grief. Inflation is still rising. Brandon engineered a tragic surrender to the Taliban. He opened the border to illegals, hardened criminals and drugs. Europe is now on the brink of war...again... Israel and the Arabs are at each other's throats...again... This is what happens when you "forget". Welcome to "reality". Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 This shouldn't concern dead brains, obviously. None of the three (dead) harmonics carry any meaning in these matters. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 59 minutes ago, myata said: Honestly: I don't have confidence that Joe can make decisions, from that perspective 1) rationally and 2) responsibly. I can be wrong and I admit it. Joe can be wrong and to remain on the side of sanity, he has to retain the ability to admit it. No one is above the reality. So, this is the way to resolve this. A gathering of individuals of honesty and integrity can have a long conversation with Joe and as a result, determine the best candidate to stand for the sane America. It can be Joe; or it can be someone else. The best candidate for America has to stand, and it doesn't have to be Joe. It's about America, its future and that of the free world. Too much is at stake for personal ambitions. The fate of democracy was always in the hands of its citizens. We used to know but we forgot. So your solution, to save democracy, is to have some elite, appointed people annoint a new leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 Who were the people who wrote American constitution? Citizens or "elite"? Democracy is not the rule of a mob. There is the law; principles; integrity and lines that cannot be crossed. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 12 minutes ago, myata said: Who were the people who wrote American constitution? Citizens or "elite"? Democracy is not the rule of a mob. There is the law; principles; integrity and lines that cannot be crossed. At the time, we had a make shift, working model. Those "elites" codified a government that recognized rights and delegated power to localities. You want to use elites to anoint a leader that will centralize government and disregard the wishes and rights of the people you disagree with. Do you really think that's analogous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 37 minutes ago, myata said: This shouldn't concern dead brains, obviously. None of the three (dead) harmonics carry any meaning in these matters. So what you're saying is you're too brain dead for this conversation. Not going to say you're wrong... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You want to use elites to anoint a leader that will centralize government and disregard the wishes and rights of the people you disagree with. Of course people have their say in the elections. Are you dim or just lying? "Codification" of democracy is not a one time thing, but a continuous and ongoing responsibility and work of the citizens. No system, no empire lasts forever and everything requires attention and maintenance - even in your place, can you believe? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 This needs to happen now. He can't just keep sailing in his own reality. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 2 minutes ago, myata said: Of course people have their say in the elections. Are you dim or just lying? "Codification" of democracy is not a one time thing, but a continuous and ongoing responsibility and work of the citizens. No system, no empire lasts forever and everything requires attention and maintenance - even in your place, can you believe? But you aren't doing that. You are subverting the will of the people to install a leader. You are doing the exact opposite of democracy. And I can prove it by quoting you; "dead brains". Don't you get it? You are absolutely everything you say we are. You are the bad guy here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 6 Author Report Share Posted July 6 Just forget it. Either you can't read or stop lying. Both, possibly. And in either case, discussions are pointless. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, myata said: Just forget it. Either you can't read or stop lying. Both, possibly. And in either case, discussions are pointless. Deal with it however you must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, myata said: This shouldn't concern dead brains, obviously. None of the three (dead) harmonics carry any meaning in these matters. All harmonics are based on the fundamental (base) frequency. Sounds like your first (base) frequency started as an odd harmonic. This can never be fundamentally correct. Everything appears like the noise from a broken guitar string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 2 hours ago, myata said: This needs to happen now. He can't just keep sailing in his own reality. The irony....... 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Deal with it however you must. Don't say that! Now he's going to be all pissy and not share his toys at kindergarten tomorrow and it'll be YOUR FAULT! (hope you're happy. Monster.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 7 hours ago, myata said: This needs to happen now. He can't just keep sailing in his own reality. Sure he can. And you have no evidence your "reality" is superior. You can't even NAME the BETTER candidate who has a BETTER chance of beating Trump. Joe has the electors and it up to HIM to relinquish them or not. It is telling that that 5 Democratic pols who are telling him to step aside, are not even saying who THEY WANT INSTEAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: Sure he can. And you have no evidence your "reality" is superior. You can't even NAME the BETTER candidate who has a BETTER chance of beating Trump. Joe has the electors and it up to HIM to relinquish them or not. It is telling that that 5 Democratic pols who are telling him to step aside, are not even saying who THEY WANT INSTEAD. You think this lowly of Kamala Harris too? LOL Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 (edited) 11 hours ago, User said: You think this lowly of Kamala Harris too? LOL Amusingly, the polls are showing he may be right. Kamala is actually pulling slightly worse than him in some Polla. Which means he literally found the only other politician in all of America who people like less than him as his running mate  There's several others who could win if this was a year ago. But they just don't have the brand recognition and organization to jump in with only 4 months left and make it happen. It would still be smart to dump pinnochi-joe and let kamala take the L for the team. Joe is going to get worse not better. And the entire democratic party will look horrible if they support him. And the press will turn on him and pretend they didnt' know all the way along to try to salvage their credibility for having been screaming that it was all "cheap fakes" to claim he was befuddled before.  Which means they probably lose the house and the senate too if he stays running. They're going to lose the presidency. I don't think anything shy of a miracle can stop that now. They have to salvage what they can in the house and the senate and try to stop trump there if they want to hold him back at all. Edited July 7 by CdnFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 7 Author Report Share Posted July 7 6 hours ago, robosmith said: Joe has the electors and it up to HIM to relinquish them or not. Yes it's up to him and he has to think about it very carefully now. Because if he insists on forcing himself here and screws it up, it would be a failure of epic, historic proportions. It will go in the history for generations, the legacy Nothing like "we gave it our best" and now, for the memoirs. The world as we know it, may change. So he must know and understand that now, if he can still understand these things. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 (edited) 21 hours ago, myata said: This shouldn't concern dead brains, obviously. None of the three (dead) harmonics carry any meaning in these matters. Listen to you, trying to claim the intellectual & moral high ground after you spent 4 years trying to pretend that Biden was somehow more than an empty vessel, or being completely duped. He was falling off bikes, falling up stairs, tripping over his own tongue, whispering to drapes, and forgetting where he was mid-sentence long before last week's debate, you just went along with every single one of the cultist lies that were propping him up this whole time. FYI the moment your dishonesty ends isn't the moment when you go on the pulpit to lecture the crowd who were telling the truth that whole time. Remember the "cheap fakes" narrative, myata? WTF was that, aside from an exercise in "get that empty vessel into the WH so that we can control everything with the teleprompter"? At what point did you notice the dementia? Was it honestly just last week? Are you really that stupid? Are you entirely certain that the debate meltdown wasn't just a "cheap fake"? In an ideal world, the id10ts who caused such an obvious problem - like yourself - aren't the ones who would be relied upon to solve it. Edited July 7 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 8 hours ago, myata said: Yes it's up to him and he has to think about it very carefully now. Because if he insists on forcing himself here and screws it up, it would be a failure of epic, historic proportions. It will go in the history for generations, the legacy Nothing like "we gave it our best" and now, for the memoirs. The world as we know it, may change. So he must know and understand that now, if he can still understand these things. Nothing can stop the failure of epic proportion now. We're almost a year people have been incredibly saying that he was becoming mentally diminished to the point where he could not reasonably conduct his duties. You and a lot of other democrats supporters simply blew that off as being untrue. Many on the left media insisted that people who claimed that were bad people who were being dishonest. There was fist pounding, there was yelling, there was denial aplenty. Now it has been shown that they were wrong and probably knew they were wrong all along. They just handed the presidency to trump. It really doesn't matter what biden does or doesn't do at this stage. So now they have to focus on saving what they can. They might be able to retain control of the house or the senate are serious work. Replacing Joe would help with that. But the simple truth is the most likely outcome now is that trump will win the presidency, and also the senate and the house. So for at least the first two years trump is going to run rampant and unrestricted because Biden and his supporters couldn't admit the truth early enough to prevent what they will consider to be a disaster  See, that's what happens when you play stupid games and act like a fool speaking as if you had no English skills and pretending that it was somehow intellectual. The dems deserve the pounding they're about to get, just as the left in Canada deserve the pounding they'll get next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 15 hours ago, User said: You think this lowly of Kamala Harris too? LOL It's NOT "lowly" to believe that she has no better chance than Joe, who has BEATEN Trump already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 9 hours ago, myata said: Yes it's up to him and he has to think about it very carefully now. Because if he insists on forcing himself here and screws it up, it would be a failure of epic, historic proportions. It will go in the history for generations, the legacy Nothing like "we gave it our best" and now, for the memoirs. The world as we know it, may change. So he must know and understand that now, if he can still understand these things. Do you believe ANYONE is a guaranteed winner over Trump? Who? I believe it would be doubly difficult for anyone else to step in NOW. Personally I would vote for Warren, but I don't believe she'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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