MI Defecting to Trump?

[gatomontes99]

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-poll-of-michigans-black-voters-show-biden-support-lagging/ar-BB1ojlhg

The poll, for which 500 registered Black voters selected at random were surveyed in Michigan from last Sunday through Thursday, indicated 54% support Biden, compared to 15% for Trump, 8% for independent activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr., 6% for independent activist and philosopher Cornel West and 1% for Jill Stein, the Green Party nominee. Another 15%

That level of support is well beneath what Biden had from Black voters in Michigan in 2020. According to exit polling that year, Black voters in Michigan, who made up 12% of all voters in that election, supported Biden 92%-7% over Trump. Biden went on to win the state overall by just under 3 percentage points, or about 154,000 votes.

There is no math for Joe to win if Trump steals 10% of the Black vote. None.

[Nationalist]

Common sense and not forcing inflation and open borders on citizens is proving to be blatantly unwanted.

So much for the "new normal".

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

There is no math for Joe to win if Trump steals 10% of the Black vote. None.

Polls are NOT predictive, they are at best a snapshot ESTIMATE.

And entirely dependent on a willingness to participate that is NOT SKEWED in any way. 

[gatomontes99]

35 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Polls are NOT predictive, they are at best a snapshot ESTIMATE.

And entirely dependent on a willingness to participate that is NOT SKEWED in any way. 

You couldn't find a room with ten blacks that had more than 1 Trump supporter under any circumstances. Now you can't find a room of ten without 2. They know who the real racist is. It just takes time for people to come out of the fog of propoganda.

[robosmith]

41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You couldn't find a room with ten blacks that had more than 1 Trump supporter under any circumstances. Now you can't find a room of ten without 2. They know who the real racist is. It just takes time for people to come out of the fog of propoganda.

Only Trump was charged with racial discrimination in renting his properties and wrote full page op eds calling for the death penalty of 5 blacks AFTER they were exonerated.

[gatomontes99]

49 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Only Trump was charged with racial discrimination in renting his properties and wrote full page op eds calling for the death penalty of 5 blacks AFTER they were exonerated.

And presided over the best economic growth for minorities in anyone's lifetime. He established opportunity zones to bring high paying jobs to disadvantaged neighborhoods. He implemented prison reform that was so good that even the ultra lwnj Van Jones stood up and gave Trump respect for it.

Meanwhile, Joe is telling black people they aren't black unless they get his blessing. Says that it is a dream to find a black man that is articulate and clean like Barack Obama. He's lied about being at civil rights protests. He eulogized a grand pubah (or whatever) of the KKK and called him a friend and mentor. Joe thinks poor kids could possibly be as smart as white kids. He opposed school bussing, claiming it would turn white schools into jungles and invoked the fear of women and girls being around young black men.

Please, find me one person that is more racist than Joe Biden.

Edit: I forgot to mention that a lot of those prison reforms that Trump enacted, overturned the Biden Prison Reform bull that disproportionately imprisoned black men.

 

Seriously, find someone more racist.

Edited June 17, 2024 by gatomontes99

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

And presided over the best economic growth for minorities in anyone's lifetime. He established opportunity zones to bring high paying jobs to disadvantaged neighborhoods. He implemented prison reform that was so good that even the ultra lwnj Van Jones stood up and gave Trump respect for it.

Meanwhile, Joe is telling black people they aren't black unless they get his blessing. Says that it is a dream to find a black man that is articulate and clean like Barack Obama. He's lied about being at civil rights protests. He eulogized a grand pubah (or whatever) of the KKK and called him a friend and mentor. Joe thinks poor kids could possibly be as smart as white kids. He opposed school bussing, claiming it would turn white schools into jungles and invoked the fear of women and girls being around young black men.

Please, find me one person that is more racist than Joe Biden.

Edit: I forgot to mention that a lot of those prison reforms that Trump enacted, overturned the Biden Prison Reform bull that disproportionately imprisoned black men.

 

Seriously, find someone more racist.

Well, I don't know much about black voters but I can see that the polling which is weighted for age and sex etc suggests that trump is ahead noticeably in most of the battlefield states, and ahead a small amount on the rest. He only needs one or two to flip.

How's things stand right now it looks like trump would probably win the election.

So the question is what's next for the democrats. They're big nuke was supposed to be him being convicted. It doesn't seem to have moved the needle very much regardless.

So now all they could do would be to put him in jail so that he hasn't got the ability to go out and campaign normally. House arrest would do I suppose. I think there will be a lot of pressure on that judge to do exactly that for at least a few months to try and give Biden a chance to get ahead

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You couldn't find a room with ten blacks that had more than 1 Trump supporter under any circumstances. Now you can't find a room of ten without 2. 

It's not just a matter of how many of the ten are voting for Trump, there's also the matter of how many don't like Biden enough to get off their couch to vote for him. Voter apathy is a big deal.

And like we saw with the first election, there are likely more Trump voters than Trump proclaimers. Not a lot of Americans waved the pom-poms, but they came out in the tens of millions on election day.

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's not just a matter of how many of the ten are voting for Trump, there's also the matter of how many don't like Biden enough to get off their couch to vote for him. Voter apathy is a big deal.

 

That is something that is often extremely underestimated. Voter turnout can decide elections faster than anything. If one side's people are motivated to get out and the other is motivated to stay at home it can lead to a win. 

 

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's not just a matter of how many of the ten are voting for Trump, there's also the matter of how many don't like Biden enough to get off their couch to vote for him. Voter apathy is a big deal.

And like we saw with the first election, there are likely more Trump voters than Trump proclaimers. Not a lot of Americans waved the pom-poms, but they came out in the tens of millions on election day.

Ted Talk that perfectly illustrates how a movement gets started.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Ted Talk that perfectly illustrates how a movement gets started.

I've seen that one before. It's one of the better Ted Talks, along with Rat Park.

Sadly, a lot of Ted Talks are terrible. It's a great idea but it's not really working out.