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1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

Nobody anywhere, ever said anything even remotely close to that. 

Other than you :)  

But hey - if you're changing your tune now that's great -  so you DO agree then that the tax is making things more expensive, is causing inflation and should be scrapped?  Or did you want to keep deflecting trying desperately to defend the liberals yet again? :)  

Answer the question this time - if you aren't completely full of shit :)

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Other than you :)  

If I did, all you'd have to do to prove it is take 10 seconds to copy+paste a quote.  Instead, here you are on page three, still shitting yourself and carrying on like a clown. 

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23 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

If I did, all you'd have to do to prove it is take 10 seconds to copy+paste a quote.  Instead, here you are on page three, still shitting yourself and carrying on like a clown. 

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Oh dear.

we' seem to have reached the hissy fit stage already :)  i'm sure in a few minutes you'll be blaming your stupidity on my post count :)

You absolutely did - but either way i just gave you a chance to clarify. Hey- if i misread something or you said something you didn't intend or have changed your mind, great! Lets clear that up.

Would take you a half second.  then there's no  doubt. 

But you didn't :) Instead you're just respamming the same picture because you're frustrated and angry that you got shown up yet again :)  

Seriously - who does that? Other than exflyer i mean.  You're now taking a page from his ass porn posts :) Were you going to post it 10 more times like him :)   ROFLMAO!!!

You just proved i was right :)  You did say it, you know it, and you don't want to correct it. Or you could have done so in 2 second.  Well.... 5 minutes the way you type but still

Gotcha loser :) 

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42 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Still can't find that quote, it seems. 

 

Uh oh.... still refuse to prove  me wrong huh :)   Guess i must have been telling the truth then :)  

And still repetitively posting pictures  instead of making arguments :)   So mature :)

LOLOL - man you never miss a chance to look like an 1diot :)   

Sorry kid. Carbon taxes increase the cost of living and inflation despite your claims otherwise and does nothing to fight climate change

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13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Uh oh.... still refuse to prove  me wrong huh :)   Guess i must have been telling the truth then :)  

If you're claiming I said something, you have to prove. That's how logic and reason work, muppet-brain. 

Having a seizure and compulsively spamming emojis doesn't cut it.  

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37 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

If you're claiming I said something, you have to prove

Not how it works kiddo. Its in this thread so it's already referenced.  If you're claiming you DIDN'T mean that or you DON"T believe that then it takes you 2 seconds to clarify your position and that's your job, not mine.

So why would you go on for pages like this?

You know you did say it and you don't WANT to change your position, you just want to make me go do something and then you'll claim it was taken out of context or what you REALLY meant was blah blah blah -

Fact is at any time here you could say whether or not that's how you feel and it would be over. "yes that is my belief" or "no my belief is different, here's what it is".

LOL - hoisted by your own petard yet again :)

Did you want to discuss something else or did you want to continue to look stupid on this topic?

 

In any case the carbon tax does drive up the price of everything and it does raise inflation.  PP told the truth, Canadians know it, and the libs are tanking so bad trying to lie their way out of it that even the NDP is jumping ship.

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10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Not how it works kiddo.

That's exactly how it works, unless you're an absolute fool and live in clownworld.  Proof is always on the affirmative, rather than the negative.  If you claim I said something, you need to prove it.  I can't quote myself not saying it.

Way to tell us you never received a higher education without actually saying it.  

No Education, Employment or Training.  

CdnFox - Re:Politic's resident N.E.E.T.

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If you're claiming you DIDN'T mean that or you DON"T believe that then it takes you 2 seconds to clarify your position and that's your job, not mine.

I didn't say it, so I couldn't have meant it.  🤡

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7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

That's exactly how it works,

Ahh - i see you opted to look even more stupid ;)  always fun!

 

Not even a little bit the way it works - unless you're a sealion and a lying sack of crap :)   If you say something it's not on everyone else to constantly repost what YOU said.  If you feel someone is inaccurate in presenting your opinon then it is incumbent on you to clarify.

The fact you won't even clarify your position on it proves you know you said it :)  If you never said it then there'd be no problem stating your position now ;)   You're completely afraid to so obviously that IS what you meant and you don't want to say otherwise :)  

Sorry kid - You're totally busted again :)  And once again your attempts to play little word games and such has blown up in your face  :)  Have you always been a masochist like this?

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44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The fact you won't even clarify your position on it proves you know you said it

I have clarified my position.  It's that the effects of carbon taxes on inflation are grossly exaggerated by know-nothing clowns like you.  It was my first post in this thread.  I've reiterated it several times.

The fact is that even in light of that clarification, you're so tragically stupid that you kept going back to argue against the point you made up, that someone somewhere ever argued that taxes don't increase costs/prices. 

This summarizes pretty much every debate anyone has here with you.  You're literally too dumb to argue with anyone but yourself.  

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2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I have clarified my position.  It's that the effects of carbon taxes on inflation are grossly exaggerated by know-nothing clowns like you. 

LOL - that wasn't the question :)   But thank you for clarifying your position about something else entirely - nice dodge :)   I guess that's your way of admitting you're wrong on the other point, so fair enough.  Boy you sure do get angry and hissy-fitty when you lose :)  

Lets deal with that issue if you prefer then.

I asked you for an example of where it was exaggerated.  Show me the exaggeration and then what you think the ACTUAL figures would be.  I ASSUME you're not just completely full of crap and actually can produce some sort of evidence to back up your claim - so, cite! 

 

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This is what you were claiming:

On 4/15/2024 at 12:03 PM, CdnFox said:

Only a left wing nutjob would claim that a tax worth many billions of dollars per year doesnt' make things more expensive. "Sure we pay tax on it, but that doesn't make the price go higher! Derp!"

This was a fantasy argument you invented to argue against, because you're too dumb to argue with anyone but yourself.  

Whatever question you may or may not have asked was probably lost amidst you soiling yourself with pages of worthless rant-spam nobody reads.  As for the eventual question itself, now you're the one sealioning, LOL.  Refer back to:

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1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

This is what you were claiming:

This was a fantasy argument you invented to argue against, because you're too dumb to argue with anyone but yourself.  

Whatever question you may or may not have asked was probably lost amidst you soiling yourself with pages of worthless rant-spam nobody reads.  As for the eventual question itself, now you're the one sealioning, LOL.  Refer back to:

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ROFLMAO!!!! Holy hissy fit batman :)    We've already finished with your sad little attempt to deny what you said - we've moved on to your claim that the effect was exaggerated :)

 I take it from your little freak out there and attempt to avoid the question that YOU raised that you CAN"T provide a single example of anyone 'exaggerating' it?

Not one? You just made the whole thing up?  So it wasn't exaggerated? :) 

Shit kid - that's TWICE you've looked like an incompetent mor0n in just two posts!!!!  Like i said - you're still stupid but you're much more efficient at it :)  

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26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO!!!! Holy hissy fit batman :)    We've already finished with your sad little attempt to deny what you said 

Yeah, we concluded that you made it up!  You spent the last 2 pages of this thread trying to explain why you won't (read can't) provide the quote, and now you want to move on.  Spasming out in more paragraphs of written puke doesn't change that you were caught lying and bullshitting...AGAIN!

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6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah, we concluded that you made it up! 

You proved i didn't make it up when you couldn't refute it.  You went on for pages refusing to clarify what you actually said :) You did say it and you spent pages refusing to refute it or clarify it.

I get it - i'd be ashamed to admit it too if i said half the stuff you do ;)    And once again your stupidity is somehow my fault in your mind :)

 

But the real interesting thing here is you can't post a single example of the effect of carbon taxes being exaggerated at all.

So at the end of the day - despite your hissy fits, despite your lies, despite your desperate and sad attempt to change the channel...

... the carbon tax drives up inflation, makes everything more expensive and you can't come up with a single example of PP or the right exaggerating how bad it is.   It has to go - it's another one of your failed leftie social experiments.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You proved i didn't make it up when you couldn't refute it. 

Because I can't quote myself not saying the things you make up.   That's basic logic.  If you're too stupid to understand and concede even that point, congratulations!  You've proven you're one of the dumbest people to ever grace this forum.  🤣

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23 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

You've proven you're one of the dumbest people to ever grace this forum. 

I don't know, he's kind of on par with WCM who maintains he's the 7th smartest guy on the Internet so...

Maybe advanced intellect like advanced technology is hard to discern from magic when you're trying to comprehend it.  The line between baffling bullshit and dazzling brilliance is just to complex. 

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28 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Because I can't quote myself not saying the things you make up.  

Sure you can - you can simply say "this is my position on it" and that's the end of it.

Unfortunately  you DID say what you said and you don't want to contradict it because that IS how you feel. 

At any moment you could have taken me up on the offer to clarify and said "here's my position so there's no confusion"  :)  but your position is the same as i quoted you saying so you don't want to.  Gotcha kiddo :)

 

Now - How about that 'Exaggeration" you talked about?  Or are you going to pretend now that you didn't say that as well? :)  LOLOL :)

 

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Just now, eyeball said:

I don't know, he's kind of on par with WCM who maintains he's the 7th smartest guy on the Internet so...

 

Nonsense.  I make no claims about being unusually smart at all.   Just smarter than you.  And that's not saying much :) 

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Maybe advanced intellect like advanced technology is hard to discern from magic when you're trying to comprehend it.  The line between baffling bullshit and dazzling brilliance is just to complex. 

It's pretty simple for those of us with a brain :)

Lets face it. That's what both of you find frustrating about me. IT's not that what i say is unusually genius - usually it's just simple statements of verifiable facts. What p*sses you off is i'm smart enough to call you on your bullshit.

In short - if you weren't so stupid I wouldn't seem so smart ;) 

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Dumb is:

Insisting the Ukraine can beat Russia in a war.

Supporting a Libbie agenda that has failed miserably.

Trying to argue that a gas tax doesn't have very negative effects on the entire economy. Interestingly enough...Jaggers is wiser than anyone who would suggest this.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Sure you can - you can simply say "this is my position on it" and that's the end of it.

It should be, but then you're too belligerent and too stupid to let it be.  

There's me clarifying my position, and not for the first time in this thread.  For someone who likes to squawk about Sealioning, nobody does it better than you.  

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1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

It should be, but then you're too belligerent and too stupid to let it be.  

 

Nawww - you never did and you could have at any time :)

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There's me clarifying my position, and not for the first time in this thread.  For someone who likes to squawk about Sealioning, nobody does it better than you.  

That was not the position we were talking about.  Nice try.  Just can't help yourself from lying. You clarified something nobody asked you about. 

For someone wh likes to squak about arguing with himself, nobody does it more than you. :)  

And i addressed that as well.  I specifically said if you want to talk about that instead i don't mind - what's an example of someone exaggerating?

 And you had nothing. Not a thing.

You couldn't have provided much more proof than you did that you're completely full of shit :)   You lied about what you said, then you lied about 'clarifying' what you said, then you lied about there being any 'exaggeration'

And everyone can see it.

And you wonder why nobody respects you.  You have comedic value of course but otherwise - you can't think your way out of a paper bag.

Although i'm sure it's all my post count's fault :)  

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