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14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - there's no justification for your ass porn kiddo - i have nothing to 'justify' :)

I never started. I haven't posted any ass porn. You were the person who posted ass porn.  And like every leftie loser out there you want your bad behavior to be someone else's fault.

Think about this the next time you want to go on one of your childish little hissy fits. Whether its ass porn or hoping ai will sound more intelligent than you do or any other cheezy little tricks, you come across looking like a childish tard.

Learn to be a man. FFS. Or change your nickname to Ex-male.

There ya are again...stop... and I will too. I have given you the opportunity a number of times but...you don't.

AI sees through you too LOL

"Your accusations seem to be based on misinterpretation and misplaced blame. It is essential to address issues with respect and factual information. If you feel offended or disturbed by certain content, it is crucial to communicate your concerns directly with the person involved, rather than projecting your emotions onto others. Engaging in personal attacks and name-calling does not contribute to a healthy conversation or promote understanding. Instead, focus on self-improvement and maintaining a mature, responsible attitude in your interactions with others."

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20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

There ya are again...stop... and I will too.

Stop what? As  i noted - i didn't post any ass porn to begin with. I can hardly stop what i didn't begin doing.

If you wish to stop something you're doing you don't need my permission to do it - just stop doing it. Like, maybe don't post any more ass porn.  But you don't need me to tell you that it's ok not to post more ass porn, just don't post any more ass porn.  Pretty simple.

Why do you always insist that your behaviour is somehow my fault? Make your own choices.

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Stop what? As  i noted - i didn't post any ass porn to begin with. I can hardly stop what i didn't begin doing.

If you wish to stop something you're doing you don't need my permission to do it - just stop doing it. Like, maybe don't post any more ass porn.  But you don't need me to tell you that it's ok not to post more ass porn, just don't post any more ass porn.  Pretty simple.

Why do you always insist that your behaviour is somehow my fault? Make your own choices.

Back again ....see LOL

"I simply provide general advice and suggestions to help guide behavior, not to assign blame. It is ultimately up to you to make your own choices and take responsibility for your actions. If you did not post the content in question, then of course there is no need to stop posting it."

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3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Back again ....see LOL

You mean i replied to your post to me.  Yeah -  thats kind of how it works.  :)  You make a post to me, i reply back. 

Sigh.  Well what can we expect from a guy who posts ass porn instead of arguments.

 

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You mean i replied to your post to me.  Yeah -  thats kind of how it works.  :)  You make a post to me, i reply back. 

Sigh.  Well what can we expect from a guy who posts ass porn instead of arguments.

 

Oh ...here again???

I do hate it when you call your selfie as porn but hey, it is all you :)

I will quit when you do. The offer stands...lets see if you are man enough to take it?

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1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh ...here again???

You mean i replied to your post again :)   ROFLMAO - holy shit kid - shoudln't you wait at least till noon before letting your brain melt?

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I do hate it when you call your selfie as porn but hey, it is all you :)

LOL - sure kid,  That's certianly making you look even betterr :)

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I will quit when you do. The offer stands...lets see if you are man enough to take it?

Again - stop what, i never started posting ass porn, and  frankly given your taste in porn i'm sure you're desperate to find ANY man who'll 'take it' for you but i'm afraid that i just don't swing that way. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, you do you).

And i see you're having a melt down on other threads as well - did you maybe want to take 5 and have an apple and some juice and see if you feel better?

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15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You mean i replied to your post again :)   ROFLMAO - holy shit kid - shoudln't you wait at least till noon before letting your brain melt?

LOL - sure kid,  That's certianly making you look even betterr :)

Again - stop what, i never started posting ass porn, and  frankly given your taste in porn i'm sure you're desperate to find ANY man who'll 'take it' for you but i'm afraid that i just don't swing that way. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, you do you).

And i see you're having a melt down on other threads as well - did you maybe want to take 5 and have an apple and some juice and see if you feel better?

Stop responding.'

I was man enough to offer this diatribe to stop but is seems you are not man enough to accept.

I don't melt down, I just call out BS and from you, it is always a bumper crop.

Offer stands...

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39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Stop responding.'

I was man enough to offer this diatribe to stop but is seems you are not man enough to accept.

I don't melt down, I just call out BS and from you, it is always a bumper crop.

Offer stands...

How are you making an 'offer' to tell me to stop responding?  "Shut up" isn't an offer :)  What kind of loser do you have to be to think that's making someone an 'Offer" :)   "i'm offering to let you shut up, Derp!!!!"  ROFLMAO!!!

That's not being a 'man' - that's being a 5 year old! If you want to stop, stop. THAT is being a man.

Kid - i'm having no end of fun mocking you for your ass porn collection :)  If you want to stop you can stop at any time, begging me to stop is just childish.  which seems to be a  running theme with you.

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When you listen to news broadcasts about the vote of non-confidendence , they say the Government "survived" the vote.

61% of Members of Parliament voted  to express confidence in the government. Not only is that a solid vote of confidence, but it is also a solid vote in support of the policy of increasing the price on carbon. (a nickel) In Saskatoon last week, the price of gas jumped 5 cents to reach 25 cents cheaper than it was a year ago. If Premier Moe is so concerned about affordability, how about axing the provincial gas taxes.

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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

How are you making an 'offer' to tell me to stop responding?  "Shut up" isn't an offer :)  What kind of loser do you have to be to think that's making someone an 'Offer" :)   "i'm offering to let you shut up, Derp!!!!"  ROFLMAO!!!

That's not being a 'man' - that's being a 5 year old! If you want to stop, stop. THAT is being a man.

Kid - i'm having no end of fun mocking you for your ass porn collection :)  If you want to stop you can stop at any time, begging me to stop is just childish.  which seems to be a  running theme with you.

So sad.  You are truly a sad person.

An opportunity for you to become civil and you make it a conflict.

"It appears that you are discussing a situation where someone is attempting to make an "offer" to another person. Your kind of behavior is not constructive or respectful, and it seems to be causing unnecessary conflict. To resolve this, it would be best for you to engage in mature communication and avoid engaging in childish behavior. If one person tries to end the conversation, they should feel free to stop participating and focus on more positive interactions."

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1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When you listen to news broadcasts about the vote of non-confidendence , they say the Government "survived" the vote.

well in fairness that is the historically used term for it.  Gov'ts survive or 'are defeated by' confidence votes. Those are the terms most commonly used.

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61% of Members of Parliament voted  to express confidence in the government.

Sure. But that does not mean they represent the current will of the people.  And much polling by different companies says that's true.

So while this a strong statement that the libs and dips don't want to go to an election right now it's not an endorsement by the people.

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15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

So sad.  You are truly a sad person.

An opportunity for you to become civil and you make it a conflict.

ROFLMAO - the ass-porn poster who not but a couple of posts ago was still insisting his ass porn is my fault thinks I"M making it a conflict :)  LOLOLOL!!!!  

Kid you really are priceless :)

You should listen to your ai's response to you - sounds like it doesnt' approve of what you're doing either :)  

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13 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When you listen to news broadcasts about the vote of non-confidendence , they say the Government "survived" the vote.

61% of Members of Parliament voted  to express confidence in the government. Not only is that a solid vote of confidence, but it is also a solid vote in support of the policy of increasing the price on carbon. (a nickel) In Saskatoon last week, the price of gas jumped 5 cents to reach 25 cents cheaper than it was a year ago. If Premier Moe is so concerned about affordability, how about axing the provincial gas taxes.

I don't think it was about taking down the liberals in a non confidence vote, everyone already knew that the NDP is not ready to call an election, financially their coffers are not up to the task, neither is the liberals...And the Bloc is well not concerned about carbon taxes as they have their own plan, and they are not interested in the rest of the country at all.

This was about defining to the entire country who was willing to freeze the carbon tax as it stands right now...and the Conservatives did just that....It shows that the other parties are not interested in giving tax payers a break , instead only interested in collecting more....says a lot to ordinary Canadians, come voting time....

now watch what happens in question period as conservatives hammer this point to the rest of Canada...when things get tougher, all the other parties were in favor of raising prices on carbon which in turn will effect every product we consume....

According to polls more than 40% of Canadians want to shelve the tax completely...and on the conservative side that climbs to a whooping 75%....who own 41 % of the vote at this time...And as the new taxes come in these numbers will continue to grow, and our climate minister is already talking about raising it again very shortly....

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-poilievre-best-prime-minister-singh-canada-politics-polling/#gsc.tab=0

 

 

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59 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - the ass-porn poster who not but a couple of posts ago was still insisting his ass porn is my fault thinks I"M making it a conflict :)  LOLOLOL!!!!  

Kid you really are priceless :)

You should listen to your ai's response to you - sounds like it doesnt' approve of what you're doing either :)  

So sad. You are such a sad sad person.

When  AI can see through you, it is clear how sad you truly aru.

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6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

So sad. You are such a sad sad person.

When  AI can see through you, it is clear how sad you truly aru.

The AI was responding to you kiddo :)   So i guess we know how sad you truly aru! :)  

Hey - let me be a man about this and give you a chance to be civil: "shut up!"  ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Ya tard! :P

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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

This was about defining to the entire country who was willing to freeze the carbon tax as it stands right now...and the Conservatives did just that....It shows that the other parties are not interested in giving tax payers a break , instead only interested in collecting more....says a lot to ordinary Canadians, come voting time....

Oh bullshit. It was about exaggerating the costs to inflame public opinion for political gain. It shows that Conservatives are full of crap and completely unconcernd about climate change.

Meanwhile, 90% of economists around the planet still agree carbon taxes are the best way to turn concern into action.

Conservatives also underscore they have no time for expert opinions, only their own matter. That's what ordinary Canadian's need to pay attention to.

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12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh bullshit. It was about exaggerating the costs to inflame public opinion for political gain. It shows that Conservatives are full of crap and completely unconcernd about climate change.

ROFLMAO - are you trying to tell me climate change has been solved or even substantially reduced by the carbon tax?

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Meanwhile, 90% of economists around the planet still agree carbon taxes are the best way to turn concern into action.

We've discussed that - that is a lie.  If you have to lie to make your point then you don't have a point

90 percent of a very small group of elite economists in the united states like the idea of a carbon tax.  That is not the same as 90 percent of economists around the world. Or even around the us.

Do you see the irony of complaining that this was about inflating the carbon tax and your first statement is one that grossly inflates something about the carbon tax?

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2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I don't think it was about taking down the Liberals in a non-confidence vote, everyone already knew that the NDP is not ready to call an election, financially their coffers are not up to the task, neither is the Liberals . . .

This was about defining to the entire country who was willing to freeze the carbon tax as it stands right now...and the Conservatives did just that....It shows that the other parties are not interested in giving tax payers a break . . .

Now watch what happens in question period as Conservatives hammer this point to the rest of Canada . . .when things get tougher, all the other parties were in favor of raising prices on carbon which in turn will effect every product we consume.

Yes, it was a smart move by Poilievre & Company . . . show Canadians that Jughead & Justin just don't care about the havoc they wreak on the public.  Well done Pierre Poilievre !

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The AI was responding to you kiddo :)   So i guess we know how sad you truly aru! :)  

Hey - let me be a man about this and give you a chance to be civil: "shut up!"  ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! Ya tard! :P

Yeah sure...I put in your posts so..AI knows you now....a F'N fool.

Sad sad sad when a computer has figured you out

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6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yeah sure...I put in your posts so..AI knows you now....a F'N fool.

Naw.  we all know you type in what you feel and edit it.  Your AI thinks you're an !diot :)  Which is what the rest of us think so  -  well done AI.

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Sad sad sad when a computer has figured you out

Well i don't know how sad it is - i think we all find it's a little funny that a computer has figured you out but then again - everyone else did so it's not like it's THAT surprising :)

 Just curious -  is this like the ass porn thing where you THOUGHT it was making you look better? Do you think this is NOT making you look obsessed childish and weird?

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14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Naw.  we all know you type in what you feel and edit it.  Your AI thinks you're an !diot :)  Which is what the rest of us think so  -  well done AI.

Well i don't know how sad it is - i think we all find it's a little funny that a computer has figured you out but then again - everyone else did so it's not like it's THAT surprising :)

 Just curious -  is this like the ass porn thing where you THOUGHT it was making you look better? Do you think this is NOT making you look obsessed childish and weird?

Put in your posts and put comes this:

"While it may seem amusing that an AI has identified a pattern in your behavior, it is crucial to remember that AI systems are designed to analyze and respond based on the data provided. As a tool, it reflects the information it has been given and aims to assist in a helpful and unbiased manner. The AI's response might appear to align with human opinions, but it is merely reflecting the data it has processed. The purpose of such systems is to support and facilitate communication, not to pass judgment or make value-based assessments."

 

So you see, AI knows what kind of fool you are LOL

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - are you trying to tell me climate change has been solved or even substantially reduced by the carbon tax?

Nope. Go read it again. And recall I've pointed out that government incompetence has risen to a whole new level on the Liberals watch.

That's a different issue entirely however from the fact that  carbon taxes remain the tool of choice by experts who actually know what they're taking about.

So, will Poilievre pay attention to what experts advise and manage things more competently or do what the base thinks?

What he should do is put experts in charge of managing the really complicated issues and explain why that's just common sense.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

90 percent of a very small group of elite economists in the united states like the idea of a carbon tax.

I'm comfortable presuming the vast number of serious economists around the world also agree.

If you asked 100 economists how to solve climate change, more than 90 would probably agree on the solution. They would say you need a carbon tax.

It’s rare for economists to agree on issues, but carbon taxes are an exception. They agree so much that 3354 American economists, including many Nobel Prize winners, recently signed an open letter supporting the introduction of a carbon tax. You can get an updated list of signatories available here. You may note that the signatories are mostly US-based economists -RePec lists that there are 12727 US economists. This means that this open letter was signed by 25% of US economists, and it’s possible that not all the remaining 75% were invited to sign.

Economists’ approval of carbon taxes is not all that surprising. A more puzzling phenomenon is that fossil fuel companies seem to agree as well.

https://knowledge.essec.edu/en/sustainability/strange-tax-supported-economists-polluters.html

 

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3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - are you trying to tell me climate change has been solved or even substantially reduced by the carbon tax?

We've discussed that - that is a lie.  If you have to lie to make your point then you don't have a point

90 percent of a very small group of elite economists in the united states like the idea of a carbon tax.  That is not the same as 90 percent of economists around the world. Or even around the us.

Do you see the irony of complaining that this was about inflating the carbon tax and your first statement is one that grossly inflates something about the carbon tax?

In the end the carbon tax is an extreme anti-growth policy because it hammers businesses and consumers with added costs.  It raises the cost of living significantly in an already inflationary high cost of living society. Biden wouldn’t dream of imposing carbon taxes on Americans. Canadians are suckers.  Oh, and our emissions will continue to rise under this scheme as we get poorer.  In fact, the carbon tax should be renamed the impoverishment tax.

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nope. Go read it again. And recall I've pointed out that government incompetence has risen to a whole new level on the Liberals watch.

That's a different issue entirely however from the fact that  carbon taxes remain the tool of choice by experts who actually know what they're taking about.

So, will Poilievre pay attention to what experts advise and manage things more competently or do what the base thinks?

What he should do is put experts in charge of managing the really complicated issues and explain why that's just common sense.

I'm comfortable presuming the vast number of serious economists around the world also agree.

If you asked 100 economists how to solve climate change, more than 90 would probably agree on the solution. They would say you need a carbon tax.

It’s rare for economists to agree on issues, but carbon taxes are an exception. They agree so much that 3354 American economists, including many Nobel Prize winners, recently signed an open letter supporting the introduction of a carbon tax. You can get an updated list of signatories available here. You may note that the signatories are mostly US-based economists -RePec lists that there are 12727 US economists. This means that this open letter was signed by 25% of US economists, and it’s possible that not all the remaining 75% were invited to sign.

Economists’ approval of carbon taxes is not all that surprising. A more puzzling phenomenon is that fossil fuel companies seem to agree as well.

https://knowledge.essec.edu/en/sustainability/strange-tax-supported-economists-polluters.html

 

 

Oh yeah, so why haven’t the Dems introduced carbon taxes in the US?

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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Oh yeah, so why haven’t the Dems introduced carbon taxes in the US?

I guess they're even more scared shitless of America's right wing's base of common i̶g̶n̶o̶r̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ sense than our so-called lefty Libs.

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3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Oh bullshit. It was about exaggerating the costs to inflame public opinion for political gain. It shows that Conservatives are full of crap and completely unconcernd about climate change.

Meanwhile, 90% of economists around the planet still agree carbon taxes are the best way to turn concern into action.

Conservatives also underscore they have no time for expert opinions, only their own matter. That's what ordinary Canadian's need to pay attention to.

I don't think basic math is bullshit, unless you can't do basic math that is.... So after you figured out the basic math are the conservatives lying....how many percentages has the carbon price gone up per tonne... 

Want to talk about bullshit...NDP or Liberals are not interested in climate change either...or we would after 8 years seen our climate change goals met, or even come close...and yet our current price on carbon as failed to meet any targets, in fact experts say our carbon out put has increased....So don't lecture on my party is more interested than your party when your party has done nothing to meet our signed to agreements...then again Canada does not have a good reputation on keeping any of it's signed inter national agreements...

Bullshit, 90% of economist are full of shit, why is not 90 % of the nations following this plan..." they are not" ...

https://ourworldindata.org/carbon-pricing

https://carbonpricingdashboard.worldbank.org/

Ordinary Canadians need to educate themselves on the topic, if they did do you really think so many would be pleased with the current liberal plan, or the continued failures to meet not only our inter national goals but also the ones we made as a nation...

Do you know what the conservative climate change plan is, not many do, but they will continue to hold on to the myth there is none, and yet it has been released 2 years ago....all you have to do is goggle it...  

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