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Yeah it takes an hour to 90 minutes to wear off each drink. Lucky you weren't made to blow the breathalyser.
Add on people's perceptions. My buddy 'Stoopid pigs, I only had ONE beer when I was stopped in the roadblock". Yeah, in his hand. Four empty tallboys rolling around on the floor, and he'd just left from drinking at the pub.
The guy who totalled my first car the night my Dad signed it over to me only had one drink. One whole mickey of rum. The high school buddy who had to drive from Van to Calgary in one shot for a job. So he brought a two-four "to keep awake" and now has one eye and walks with a limp.
The problem is there are so many people about with their perception as dim (as if through wet toilet paper} who can't even tell when they're impaired. Just like that ad shot thru the beer glasses points out.

 

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On 4/15/2024 at 4:26 PM, herbie said:

Yeah it takes an hour to 90 minutes to wear off each drink. Lucky you weren't made to blow the breathalyser.
Add on people's perceptions. My buddy 'Stoopid pigs, I only had ONE beer when I was stopped in the roadblock". Yeah, in his hand. Four empty tallboys rolling around on the floor, and he'd just left from drinking at the pub.
The guy who totalled my first car the night my Dad signed it over to me only had one drink. One whole mickey of rum. The high school buddy who had to drive from Van to Calgary in one shot for a job. So he brought a two-four "to keep awake" and now has one eye and walks with a limp.
The problem is there are so many people about with their perception as dim (as if through wet toilet paper} who can't even tell when they're impaired. Just like that ad shot thru the beer glasses points out.

 

I blew 0.11 BAC a little over 10 hours since my last drink...however, I really was gone the night before. I still to this day do not remember anything.

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Great news.

 

I have now gone 8 months since my DUI, and I have changed my life. I am healthier, drink far less (2 weeks with no alcohol), feel better, have more energy, and I am now employed at a job I really like.  I just hate the fact that the DUI will be on my abstract, causing my insurance to skyrocket, while it pretty much made any jobs where I may ahve been required to drive off-limits until 2026.

 

DUI is not the end of the World. In fact, it may turn out to be the best thing to happen to me in years. I will have the interlock device removed in December, but I doubt I will ever go down the dark path of drinking to a drunken stupor, then driving 9-10 hours later, while I was still technically over the limit.

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On 5/15/2024 at 4:12 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Great news.

 

I have now gone 8 months since my DUI, and I have changed my life. I am healthier, drink far less (2 weeks with no alcohol), feel better, have more energy, and I am now employed at a job I really like.  I just hate the fact that the DUI will be on my abstract, causing my insurance to skyrocket, while it pretty much made any jobs where I may ahve been required to drive off-limits until 2026.

 

DUI is not the end of the World. In fact, it may turn out to be the best thing to happen to me in years. I will have the interlock device removed in December, but I doubt I will ever go down the dark path of drinking to a drunken stupor, then driving 9-10 hours later, while I was still technically over the limit.

I hope you succeed but, statistics say, you will continue to drink and will probably re-offend (may not get caught but....).

Unfortunately, I know several folks that are/were in your situation and once the punishment was over...back to normal.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

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On 5/20/2024 at 8:25 AM, ExFlyer said:

I hope you succeed but, statistics say, you will continue to drink and will probably re-offend (may not get caught but....).

Unfortunately, I know several folks that are/were in your situation and once the punishment was over...back to normal.

I hope to be the exception...

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I was talking to a nurse when I moved up here, about the campaign against FAS and commented how my Mom was told to sip one drink, maybe a glass of sherry while she was pregnant and how it worked out better than the Moms who took the thalidomide the doctor advised.
Nurse went ballistic - Look where you f*cking live now! One drink to half these people means one two-four, or one 26er of Vodka or one 40 lb of Rum! That's why we say NONE, ZERO.

 

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On 1/15/2024 at 1:32 AM, Army Guy said:

I know drinking and driving is a provincial matter, but in" BC GO figure"we have a special case here his a guy working on his 22 nd charge...yes that is right 21 times before that he was charged and convicted of drinking and driving.

The answer is simple, governments aren't tough enough. Taking a driver's lience away is pointless, as if you need one to operate a vehicle. Sort of like needing a restricted permit to use a handgun...ask any criminal. LOL

After x number of charges, confiscate the vehicle permanently and let the province sell it and distribute the monies to those affected by DUI. Real simple! I remember being told while in Italy, if you are at the second level of alcohol %, the vehicle is confiscated. Got a car loan, that is your problem, your car is gone.

Of course the same thing applies to cell phone use, a pandemic these days since the human race is so lonely and suffers from FOMO.

By the way there are far more fatalites from DUI and distracted driving than firearm fatalities. Of course DH Justin Trudeau can't seem to figure that out.

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Definitely not a YES man aka "a follower".

The prime directive of any government from the City to the Federal level is to implement the wishes of the people, so let us vote on-line on how we spend my tax dollars.

 

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On 5/28/2024 at 4:57 AM, exPS said:

The answer is simple, governments aren't tough enough. Taking a driver's lience away is pointless, as if you need one to operate a vehicle. Sort of like needing a restricted permit to use a handgun...ask any criminal. LOL

After x number of charges, confiscate the vehicle permanently and let the province sell it and distribute the monies to those affected by DUI. Real simple! I remember being told while in Italy, if you are at the second level of alcohol %, the vehicle is confiscated. Got a car loan, that is your problem, your car is gone.

Of course the same thing applies to cell phone use, a pandemic these days since the human race is so lonely and suffers from FOMO.

By the way there are far more fatalites from DUI and distracted driving than firearm fatalities. Of course DH Justin Trudeau can't seem to figure that out.

Manitoba  now makes the drunk driver pay for damages to the other vehicle. However, Alberta and other provinces still cover any damage to property that is not yours, as long as your have valid insurance.

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35 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

The minimum jail time for a second offense increased under Trudeau.

Nope. Absolutely untrue. In fact a number of the minimum sentences were shot down under Trudeau and he just allowed the courts to do that. But as I say the biggest problem is the catch and release program where they're caught doing a violent defense in the morning and they're on the streets again in the afternoon. This is resulted in dozens and dozens of assaults and murders including one girl who had her rapist arrested and he was released that afternoon and went out and raped her again.

By any crime metric Justin has been an absolute unmitigated disaster

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So you resort to comparing DUIs to violent criminals and a catch and release system so you can deny any change to the Criminal Code that almost no DUIs are charged under?

Most places have Provincial Traffic Codes that nail you hard and fast and scoop your car and licence instantly, without tying up the damn federal court system. And the pisstanks are griping they've been denied due process.

Whine for the sake of whine, so long as you make something ant-Trudeau, right?

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2 minutes ago, herbie said:

So you resort to comparing DUIs to violent criminals and a catch and release system so you can deny any change to the Criminal Code that almost no DUIs are charged under?

Most places have Provincial Traffic Codes that nail you hard and fast and scoop your car and licence instantly, without tying up the damn federal court system. And the pisstanks are griping they've been denied due process.

Whine for the sake of whine, so long as you make something ant-Trudeau, right?

Who are you even talking to? You're making even less sense than normal and I have to say that is quite an accomplishment

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My home state of Idaho used to have relatively relaxed laws concerning DUI's. Sometime in the late 90's, that changed drastically after some guy killed a girl walking on the side of the road. It was his 18th (or so) DUI offense. After that case, the penalties got much stiffer such as mandatory jail time on the 3rd offense with probable jail time on the second. I have no problem with such things. I lost a brother to a drunk driver in 2001 so it hits home a bit. 

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I am mid 60. Grew up in renfrew County. It was crazy times. Everyone did it. It was normal. Something about D&D is very addictive. Plus throw in how close we were to the Quebec border. Many people over the yrs were killed or mained. Never got a impaired charge myself, but should have had 1000's. Like most people. But now it is nowhere near as bad as it was. But it is still going on. I think the " gummie" is the next problem.

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Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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On 6/25/2024 at 8:42 AM, impartialobserver said:

relaxed laws concerning DUI's.

Don't assume DUI laws are 'relaxed' in Canada. If you're caught in a roadblock it may be a provincial punishment but if you crash you might be criminally charged. If you cause death or injury while DUI, you're for sure going to be nailed to the wall. Stories in the news every day about people jailed for that.

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5 hours ago, herbie said:

Don't assume DUI laws are 'relaxed' in Canada. If you're caught in a roadblock it may be a provincial punishment but if you crash you might be criminally charged. If you cause death or injury while DUI, you're for sure going to be nailed to the wall. Stories in the news every day about people jailed for that.

I lad I know,got his 5th 2yrs ago. He ended up doing 30 days in rehab. $1800 fine. 5 yrs suspension. Never in a accident, but I thought he got off a little easy. 

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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3 hours ago, PIK said:

Never in a accident

That's why.
Like I probably mentioned here I guy I knew in the 1970s got his 5th or 7th and they fined him like $2500 and a 10 year suspension way back then. The Judge even said out loud sending him to jail wouldn't make him any smarter and the whole courtroom laughed at that.

Also knew a guy who tried to run from a roadblock and smashed into a fence. He lost his car and spent a year behind bars.

 

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On 1/14/2024 at 4:32 PM, Army Guy said:

 How do things get this bad...

 

Easy.   If you cannot put him in jail for life, he finds a vehicle and continues driving drunk even if he has no license.

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On 6/28/2024 at 4:44 PM, herbie said:

Don't assume DUI laws are 'relaxed' in Canada. If you're caught in a roadblock it may be a provincial punishment but if you crash you might be criminally charged. If you cause death or injury while DUI, you're for sure going to be nailed to the wall. Stories in the news every day about people jailed for that.

I'm wonder if this mom would agree that the DUI laws are strict enough after losing 2 small children and her father to a drunk driver...He was sentenced to 10 years for killing 3 people and injuring 2 others...But it gets better, he has been granted day parole after just serving 5 years...

I my opinion Thats not being nailed to the wall, thats getting off pretty easy, thats our laws being lax...he stole the lives of 3 people, he knew he was impaired, and he made the decision to get in his car and drive anyways...Everyone knows it is a criminal offense to drive while under the influence...that day he gave the law the finger...and took the lives of 3 people...

He should be serving life in prison...Never allow to drive again, never allow to insure a motor vehicle, never allow to purchase an auto, and if he is caught driving back to prison for more time...Unfortunately this story is pretty common in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/marco-muzzo-parole-board-hearing-february-2021-1.5906691#:~:text=Muzzo was sentenced to 10 years behind bars,and two of impaired driving causing bodily harm.

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm wonder if this mom would agree that the DUI laws are strict enough after losing 2 small children and her father to a drunk driver...He was sentenced to 10 years for killing 3 people and injuring 2 others...But it gets better, he has been granted day parole after just serving 5 years..

Is 10 years not enough punishment for you? Or you object to him getting the same release options as everyone else convicted of a crime?
He wasn't convicted of first degree murder.

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Let me ask if it was two of your kids and your father would it be enough ? think about that for a second what are their lives worth to you....3 1/3 years each...or 1 3/4 year each to get day parole to spend time with his family...when all you got is a photo to spend family time with...come on Herbie you would be angry, you'd want real justice...and when he got out early for good behavior, what then Herbie...

Not everyone killed 3 people and severely injured 2 more...10 years is a joke...for killing someone...every man, women in this country knows drinking and driving is against the law, the reason we have so many drunk drivers is the punishment is a complete joke...

In this case this ass wipe got drunk on a plane knowing he was going to drive home from the airport....knowing he was breaking the law, knowing he could kill himself of others...and he said screw it.....he did not care on fiddles FFFFFF I don't feel sorry for him, or any other drunk driver, in these times we have taxis, ubers, friends, family, hitchhike or stay over in a hotel or friends house...How many outs do these people need....sh*t go to any police station and they most likely will arrange a free ride or give you a place to sleep till morning...The article mentions many people getting caught many times over, they don't care they pay a fine do a little time, and then back out to do it all over again...where is the line in the sand before the courts take it all seriously...., right now they wait until you do kill someone before they hand out sentences and when they do it's 10 years freaking years....

25 years is a life sentence, you take a life you should be prepared to serve a life..

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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The guy got 10 years, you're saying that's not enough.
It wasn't first or second degree murder the sentence is consistent with manslaughter. Higher than a lot for that crime.

What you "feel" or what you imagine relatives of the victims feel is irrelevant. They're not you and you aren't them. The Court decides. And unless there's an unusual circumstance, and the perp isn't an unrepentant dork, everyone is entitled to mandatory after 2/3. Doesn't mean the same as they're "free".
Them's the rules.

 

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