WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2023 Report Posted November 4, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/israel-shows-footage-of-hamas-killings-to-counter-denial-of-atrocities They were showed video of Palestinians killing a girl who was hiding under a table, the charred remains of women and children, Palestinian attackers bragging about how many civilians they killed, etc. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Guest Posted November 4, 2023 Report Posted November 4, 2023 I think anyone supporting Hamas' vision of a "free Palestine", which essentially would involve the wiping of Israel off of the map, should be forced to sit through some of those videos. I've seen a few myself, trying to figure out the reality of the situation, as the news no longer seem reliable to obtain information. Seeing people burned alive, or butchered while begging for their lives, or the video of a crying child covered in blood inside what seems to be their living room, asking if his sibling is dead, while his mother shushes him (as the child is clearly oblivious to the imminent danger that the family faces if they don't remain silent) as armed militants are standing in front of them recording from body cameras, likely still deciding on finishing the job, or taking them in as hostages. There is no world where it would be acceptable, to walk through a country's border and deliberately butcher thousands of innocent civilians without even attempting to make it look like you're trying to destroy military infrastructure without a firm and resolute response. There is just no negotiating with people like this. Israel cannot however, be goaded into bombing indiscriminately as this is exactly what Hamas wants. This issue with Israel, is the killings there are so grisly, they can't be put on front page news. Easy to show a child crying in Gaza, so you by default lose the PR war on this one, so can only fight as cleanly as possible until the job is done. There is no peace and never will be, with a Hamas in power on your border. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 4, 2023 Report Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: I think anyone supporting Hamas' vision of a "free Palestine", which essentially would involve the wiping of Israel off of the map, should be forced to sit through some of those videos. Too many of them would demand popcorn. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: I think anyone supporting Hamas' vision of a "free Palestine", which essentially would involve the wiping of Israel off of the map, should be forced to sit through some of those videos. I agree. I also think it's time for Canadians to stop following the narrative that there's Hamas - pure evil - surrounded by a bunch of fantastic Palestinians... The notion is completely absurd. There are so many people in Hamas that it's the dominant culture there, how can there be absolutely no support from the rest of the community? The range of human opinions never strays very far from the standard bell curve. Obviously that whole chart should be skewed more in Hamas's favour, because they rule there, but the general theme is there. The point is, almost everyone on that graph is somewhere between kinda ok with Hamas to 'an actual member of Hamas'. Not great options for a next-door neighbour. It's slim pickin's if you're looking for decent candidates for a peaceful civilization... I.e., people in the "loathe Hamas" and further to the right. If you bring in 10,000 Palestinians it's an absolute certainty that you will be importing Hamas. Not just a bit of Hamas, but enough Hamas members to dominate that community. If it's true that there are so many Hamas terrorists that are that evil, and then the rest of the population was fabulous, then it would be the only example of population distribution in history that completely shatters the normal bell curve mould... The "Theoretical Palestinian Bell Curve on Opinions Towards Hamas" looks something like this: No one has ever seen a population distribution like ^that^ before. I'm not even going to entertain the possibility that it's even remotely real - it's a joke. Fact: there's no huge mass of great choices for relocation here. Edited November 4, 2023 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
myata Posted November 4, 2023 Report Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Terrible. No, cannot be excused or explained. By the way Russia shelled a train station full of civilians and razed multiple settlements to the ground. Terrorist is as terrorist does. It's the act that defines a terrorist, not beliefs, causes, ideas, ethnic background, etc. There's no: understanding; explaining and exonerating a terrorist. Simple as that. Edited November 5, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, myata said: Terrible. No, cannot be excused or explained. By the way Russia shelled a train station full of civilians and razed multiple settlements to the ground. Terrorist is as terrorist does. It's the act that defines a terrorist, not beliefs, causes, ideas, ethic background, etc. There's no: understanding; explaining and exonerating a terrorist. Simple as that. How do you feel about the prospect of bringing some sweet families to Canada from Gaza? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Guest Posted November 4, 2023 Report Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The notion is completely absurd. You're also bringing in people with a level of baggage that could make it insanely difficult for them to integrate into society. With that said, regardless of belief systems, I feel unarmed civilians are off limits. Sadly though, Hamas is using these people as dual purpose. As shields, and PR ammunition. For terrorists, they are quite savvy, with the tools that they have. There is no excuse to target innocent people, nonetheless. Collateral damage within reason, could be seen as acceptable, and that's a line that will need to be straddled heavily by Israel, if they don't wish to he pressured to stop their war by key allies. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you bring in 10,000 Palestinians You would be repeating Syria's refugee blunders in countries like Canada. IE in doing a good deed, you bite off more than you can chew. Kids with mental health issues that just are too unprecedented for the mental health professionals in Canada. That, or the fact that some of these people leave war, to go homeless in a country where the cost of living, at times will by far will outweigh the salaries that they would be able to make. Quote
WestCanMan Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: You're also bringing in people with a level of baggage that could make it insanely difficult for them to integrate into society. They rarely do, that's not usually their goal. They only come here to take what they can and they will take every opportunity to seclude themselves from the outside world. https://globalnews.ca/news/2187517/toronto-city-councillor-says-muslim-only-subsidized-housing-is-acceptable/ Isn't it just plain bigotry to have muslim-only buildings? Is there even such a thing as a "whites-only" building here? Or Christian only"? These guys refused to live peacefully with the Israelis for 75 years now, why would they want to live in peace with us? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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