blackbird Posted October 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Hate to break it to you, but Trump is NOT god, no matter what he told Mike Johnson. Never said anything about Trump and don't follow him or care what he says particularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 hours ago, blackbird said: I don't know. If you want to know about dinosaurs there are many articles on creation.com Were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark (creation.com) A warning to other forum members: please don’t eat or drink while clicking on that link, there’s a real risk of choking during all the laughter. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) " Many other founders of modern science also saw their scientific research as bringing glory to God. Newton said: “This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. … This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called ‘Lord God’ Παντοκράτωρ [Pantokratōr cf. 2 Corinthians 6:18] or ‘Universal Ruler’. … The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect … ”.3 “Opposite to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors”.4 " Science biblical presuppositions (creation.com) Idolatry can be anything in life you put in place of God. "The Sin of Idolatry Idolatry is the worship of anything other than God, whether it is a physical object, a person, a pleasure, or a concept. " The irony is atheists claim they don't believe in God, but they have created another god or gods in their own mind. They mistakenly think if they don't call these other things a god or gods, they are not practicing idolatry. Edited October 29, 2023 by blackbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: A warning to other forum members: please don’t eat or drink while clicking on that link, there’s a real risk of choking during all the laughter. It's tragic how narrow the view is for these people. Tens of thousands of religions in the world and they think that: A. There's one "true" religion B. They were lucky enough to find truth in an old book assembled by old men There's not a bit of logic or sense to it, but they'll fall all over themselves to try to rationalize it. I say if you're the sort of person who finds religion a comfort, just enjoy it. They should spare themselves the embarrassment and spare the rest of us tendonitis from facepalming 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLefty Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 hours ago, blackbird said: It's not a myth. The Bible gives lots of evidence it came from God. Those who don't believe it are condemning themselves for eternity unless they repent. The knowledge in it is for all time. The commandments for example are still valid: thou shalt not kill, not shalt not covet thy neighbours possessions, thou shalt not commit adultery, love thy neighbour as thyself, etc. etc. The Biblical teaching that man is a fallen, corrupt being and needs to be redeemed it quite obvious. Man has been brutal to each other with crime, theft, murders, wars, etc. Nobody in their right mind could deny these things. There is an almighty Creator who created everything. That should be obvious by just looking around at the complex creation. Even biological scientists have discovered the complexity of a single cell is demonstrated by the vast chains of data in it to control its function. The very existence of the universe proves the existence of God because the universe is an effect. Every effect has a cause. Simple logic of cause and effect. The universe had to have a Creator-designer. Nothing does not create something. There had to have been a beginning in time when the universe came into being and it could not have just happened out of the blue. One only needs to consider such things as the atoms, molecules, energy and laws of physics. All of that could not just happen. It was created with incredibly intricate laws that govern how it all works. This could only have been done by an immensely powerful Designer we call God. So it is reasonable to believe that God did inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures, that is, the Bible. The Bible reveals God's plan and will for man. Only fools reject that and are so puffed up with pride and full of themselves that they think they know better than God. Sad, but true. It takes a little humility and acknowledgement that we are mere mortals that will be alive for a very brief moment in time and we are as specks of dust in the universe. The Bible makes it clear we will be held accountable to God for our beliefs in this life. We are not just blobs of chemicals that came into existence accidentally. There is a purpose for everything even if we don't understand it all. Get a really big Bible, hardcover indeed and lube it well in lard. Then proceed to shove it up yer arse. Oh lard optional 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 hours ago, bcsapper said: How do you know that for sure? Whoever told you, could you get her to pick some numbers for the next 6/49? Everyone knows it. Too many deny it. They will be lost...like you it sounds like. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 hours ago, robosmith said: And how do you "know for sure"? You been talking to him or relatives that passed about what happened? I know in my heart. In my soul. You deny your own soul's very existence. That's a waste...and tragic. I'm sure someone will miss you...somewhere. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hodad said: A. There's one "true" religion B. They were lucky enough to find truth in an old book assembled by old men quote What does “Many are called but few are chosen” in Matthew 22:14 mean? This statement is the conclusion to the Parable of the Wedding Feast. Jesus spoke this parable to show what the kingdom of heaven will be like when the end of the age comes. In the parable, the king sends his servants out to gather the wedding guests to the wedding feast. But those invited refused to come, some because they were too busy with their own worldly pursuits and some because they were positively hostile toward the king. So the king commands his servants to go out and invite anyone they find, and many come and fill the wedding hall. But the king sees one man without wedding clothes, and he sends him away. Jesus concludes by saying that many are called/invited to the kingdom, but only those who have been “chosen” and have received Christ will come. Those who try to come without the covering of the blood of Christ for their sins are inadequately clothed and will be sent into “outer darkness,” (v. 13) i.e., hell. Many people hear the call of God coming through His revelation of Himself through creation, the conscience, and the preaching of the Word. But only the “few” will respond because they are the ones who are truly hearing. Jesus said many times, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear” (Matthew 11:15; Mark 4:9; Luke 8:8, 14:35). The point is that everyone has ears, but only a few are listening and responding. Not everyone who hears the gospel receives it but only the “few” who have ears to hear. The “many” hear, but there is no interest or there is outright antagonism toward God. Many are called or invited into the kingdom, but none are able to come on their own. God must draw the hearts of those who come; otherwise they will not (John 6:44). unquote What does “Many are called but few are chosen” in Matthew 22:14 mean? | GotQuestions.org Edited October 29, 2023 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, NYLefty said: Get a really big Bible, hardcover indeed and lube it well in lard. Then proceed to shove it up yer arse. Oh lard optional Admittedly...some souls are beyond redemption and will die a true death. I know I should mourn the waste but... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Everyone knows it. Too many deny it. They will be lost...like you it sounds like. Ah, I see. What about the whole dinosaur thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 6 hours ago, blackbird said: " Many other founders of modern science also saw their scientific research as bringing glory to God. Newton said: “This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being. … This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called ‘Lord God’ Παντοκράτωρ [Pantokratōr cf. 2 Corinthians 6:18] or ‘Universal Ruler’. … The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect … ”.3 “Opposite to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors”.4 " Science biblical presuppositions (creation.com) Idolatry can be anything in life you put in place of God. "The Sin of Idolatry Idolatry is the worship of anything other than God, whether it is a physical object, a person, a pleasure, or a concept. " The irony is atheists claim they don't believe in God, but they have created another god or gods in their own mind. They mistakenly think if they don't call these other things a god or gods, they are not practicing idolatry. Do you really think a guy died on a cross, then came back to life with super human strength? Do you think it's ok to buy slaves from neighboring countries? Do you believe we need to kill our neighbors if they shave their faces? Were you aware that if your testicles get crushed, you are no longer welcome in heaven? Did you know that you must cut off your wife's hand if she touches the testicles of the man attacking you? The Bible reads like a book of mythology because it is a book of mythology. After all these thousands of years, do we yet have any empirical evidence that any of the over 2000 Gods created by Man exists? We don't. By law, you are entitled to your faith. I support your right to believe any nonsense you wish. But you attempting to "prove" God exists with only scripture and feelings, is a fools errand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 hours ago, blackbird said: The timeline for the beginning of man, i.e. Adam and Eve, appears to be estimated to be about 4,000 B.C. or 6,000 years ago. The Fall of man... 9 hours ago, blackbird said: "In 1995, Mary Schweitzer discovered red blood cells in a dinosaur bone, and, in 2005, more blood cells (above) in other bones plus soft tissue... 8 hours ago, blackbird said: According to Genesis 6:15, the Ark measured 300 x 50 x 30 cubits, which is about 460 x 75 x 44 feet, with a volume of about 1.52 million cubic feet. Researchers have shown... The words of a true zealot. I'll end my part here. The Earth is billions of years old. Dinosaurs were alive hundreds of millions of years ago and became extinct approximately 65 million years ago. They never shared any space with humans. Your beliefs are immaterial to the facts. But I am curious still, does anyone on here agree with our friend blackbird? No argument required. Just a commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: Ah, I see. What about the whole dinosaur thing? What about it? Have you ever heard me say I follow the Christian Bible? I don't think corporeal beings can or should be assuming to know the "word of God". Look around you. Do you think men are even qualified to assume such? The arrogance is astounding. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: What about it? Have you ever heard me say I follow the Christian Bible? I don't think corporeal beings can or should be assuming to know the "word of God". Look around you. Do you think men are even qualified to assume such? The arrogance is astounding. No, I'm just curious as to the views of the religious when it comes to the so obviously ridiculous. It's fascinating, really. Agreed on the second paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 23 hours ago, robosmith said: Sure. Cause there's nothing like a man having complete faith in a book of ancient myths to demonstrate he is a cretin who believes we've learned nothing in the 2000 years since it was written. One thing MANY have learned is that myths have power that is unjustified by FACTS and that the FACTS of our existence has CHANGED PROFOUNDLY in 2000 years. Back then survival was dependent on the size of one's tribe, among other profound differences. Book of ancient myths? I don't recall his citing any of Obama's autobiographies? You're such an ignorant NAZI. Killed any Jews lately? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, blackbird said: quote What does “Many are called but few are chosen” in Matthew 22:14 mean? This statement is the conclusion to the Parable of the Wedding Feast. Jesus spoke this parable to show what the kingdom of heaven will be like when the end of the age comes. In the parable, the king sends his servants out to gather the wedding guests to the wedding feast. But those invited refused to come, some because they were too busy with their own worldly pursuits and some because they were positively hostile toward the king. So the king commands his servants to go out and invite anyone they find, and many come and fill the wedding hall. But the king sees one man without wedding clothes, and he sends him away. Jesus concludes by saying that many are called/invited to the kingdom, but only those who have been “chosen” and have received Christ will come. Those who try to come without the covering of the blood of Christ for their sins are inadequately clothed and will be sent into “outer darkness,” (v. 13) i.e., hell. Many people hear the call of God coming through His revelation of Himself through creation, the conscience, and the preaching of the Word. But only the “few” will respond because they are the ones who are truly hearing. Jesus said many times, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear” (Matthew 11:15; Mark 4:9; Luke 8:8, 14:35). The point is that everyone has ears, but only a few are listening and responding. Not everyone who hears the gospel receives it but only the “few” who have ears to hear. The “many” hear, but there is no interest or there is outright antagonism toward God. Many are called or invited into the kingdom, but none are able to come on their own. God must draw the hearts of those who come; otherwise they will not (John 6:44). unquote What does “Many are called but few are chosen” in Matthew 22:14 mean? | GotQuestions.org “For myself, I would see the White Tree flower again in the courts of the kings, and the Silver Crown return, and Minas Tirith in peace: Minas Anor again as of old, full of light, high and fair, beautiful as a queen among other queens: not a mistress of many slaves, nay, not even a kind mistress of willing slaves [Galadriel!]. War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour us all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor; and I would have loved her for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise.” Faramir, The Two Towers, Book 2, “Chapter V: The Window on the West,” p. 678-9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, bcsapper said: No, I'm just curious as to the views of the religious when it comes to the so obviously ridiculous. It's fascinating, really. Agreed on the second paragraph. I don't know why anyone has to believe in a lot of the obvious nonsense in the bible in order to believe in a god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 13 hours ago, blackbird said: The timeline for the beginning of man, i.e. Adam and Eve, appears to be estimated to be about 4,000 B.C. or 6,000 years ago. The Fall of man is estimated in the Thompson Chain Reference (KIng James) Bible to have happened about 4004 B.C. This is according to the a highly respected theologian, Ussher. It says it is only a working number, not to be taken as absolutely correct. Since Genesis says God created the universe in six days and that man was created during this six days. Therefore, it is correct to say the earth and universe was created about 6,000 years ago. The way I see it is, when God created everything in six days, that means the earth was created with a certain age at the moment it was created. The trees, birds, animals, etc. were created full grown at that moment. This was a supernatural event. Nothing unreasonable or irrational about believing that. So the earth would possibly be 6,000 years old. So you believe in MAGIC. That makes you uncredible because you believe things for which there is NO EVIDENCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 hours ago, blackbird said: Never said anything about Trump and don't follow him or care what he says particularly. You said that god ordained Mike Johnson when it was clearly Trump who gave Emmer the boot and gained Johnson the Speakership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: I know in my heart. In my soul. You deny your own soul's very existence. That's a waste...and tragic. I'm sure someone will miss you...somewhere. My "soul" is fully intact and that doesn't require ANY specific belief structure beyond the power of empirical observation, no matter what your fantasies tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Admittedly...some souls are beyond redemption and will die a true death. I know I should mourn the waste but... The comfort you take from imagining life after death is only a dream you imagine to avoid facing the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: My "soul" is fully intact and that doesn't require ANY specific belief structure beyond the power of empirical observation, no matter what your fantasies tell you. Well if you believe...really believe you have a "potentially" immortal soul, then I'd assume you have a belief on Gawd Almighty. 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: The comfort you take from imagining life after death is only a dream you imagine to avoid facing the truth. Huh...well if you must waste your soul...you must. Free will...it can be a b1tch. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well if you believe...really believe you have a "potentially" immortal soul, then I'd assume you have a belief on Gawd Almighty. I have the same "soul" as any human does. 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Huh...well if you must waste your soul...you must. Free will...it can be a b1tch. I have wasted NOTHING. In fact based on your posts here, I far more efficient than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: I have the same "soul" as any human does. I have wasted NOTHING. In fact based on your posts here, I far more efficient than you. You far more efficient huh? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 21 hours ago, robosmith said: You're an lDIOT. I'm really glad you think so, for reasons that you don't understand. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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