blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: F**K you too. I suppose you support bringing in all the world's terrorist supporters and trouble makes. You liberals/NDP are wrecking Canada faster than anyone. We see the protests of immigrants in Canada trying to fight their foreign wars on Canadian soil. Palestinians, Sikhs, and other groups. Some are violent right in Canada. Canada doesn't need those kind of people here. Stop supporting that kind of thing. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, blackbird said: You don't understand that Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs have all the countries surrounding Israel. Israel is a very tiny country and needs that land to defend themselves. Arabs are mostly Muslims and believe Israel has no right to exist. Wake up and learn the facts. Since so-called Palestinians are Arabs, why shouldn't they move to an Arab country and why don't the Arab countries like Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, etc. who have almost all of the land offer to take them in. Why do they support them in terrorism against Israel? You really have no clue do you. You seem to forget Israel was given, it was not taken nor fought for nor conquered the land. Why should peoples that have lived there for thousands of year have to n=move because of a UN decree? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Seems to me the one without a clue, is you. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You seem to forget Israel was given, it was not taken nor fought for nor conquered the land. Why should peoples that have lived there for thousands of year have to n=move because of a UN decree? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Seems to me the one without a clue, is you. No, you forgot that was Israel several thousand years ago. It was the Roman Empire that destroyed Jerusalem and dispersed the Jews in 70 A.D. Then the Muslims came along after the 7th century and started claiming the whole area for themselves. Islam was spread by the sword. Did you learn that fact? Why do you think Europe had to drive the Muslims out of France centuries ago. How do you think Constantinople became Istanbul? Islamic expansion has been a fact for 1300 years. Israel has been one of the most fought over small pieces of land in the world. What do you think the crusades were all about? Ever heard of Islam conquering the middle east and trying to expand into other places? What do you think all the wars in north Africa and central Africa have been all about? Not to mention ISIS, the Taliban, Islamic Republic of Iran, al Qaida, etc. Radical Islam. Edited October 10, 2023 by blackbird Quote
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Why should peoples that have lived there for thousands of year have to n=move because of a UN decree Why shouldn't they? The un sought to solve a massive problem with diplomacy and not force of arms. Are you saying the right thing to do would be to just let them go at it and whomever is left standing gets the whole Thing? Total warfare, screw the women and children, just end it decisively like was done in the old days, one way or another? The jews need somewhere to be and like it or not that's where they are. THey're not going to magically disappear The palastinians want to be there as well. So the two choices are they learn to reconcile peacefully or they solve it with extreme violence Hamas chose violence , So... Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: No, you forgot that was Israel several thousand years ago. It was the Roman Empire that destroyed Jerusalem and dispersed the Jews in 70 A.D. Then the Muslims came along after the 7th century and started claiming the whole area for themselves. Islam was spread by the sword. Did you learn that fact? Why do you think Europe had to drive the Muslims out of France centuries ago. How do you think Constantinople became Istanbul? Islamic expansion has been a fact for 1300 years. Israel has been one of the most fought over small pieces of land in the world. What do you think the crusades were all about? Ever heard of Islam conquering the middle east and trying to expand into other places? What do you think all the wars in north Africa and central Africa have been all about? Radical Islam. Read again. The jews were nowhere and everywhere for millennia. They dispersed themselves. The Romans only occupied for a couple hundred years. The Jews had no state, only a city. The Muslims fought for an won and kept the land. The muslims were like any force throughout time. They fought and kept what they won. Nothing was ever legislated for them. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, blackbird said: Canada doesn't need those kind of people here. Canada said the same thing about Jews and that's why Israel is correct to say this is a global war. We helped push it in that direction. Edited October 10, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, CdnFox said: Why shouldn't they? The un sought to solve a massive problem with diplomacy and not force of arms. Are you saying the right thing to do would be to just let them go at it and whomever is left standing gets the whole Thing? Total warfare, screw the women and children, just end it decisively like was done in the old days, one way or another? The jews need somewhere to be and like it or not that's where they are. THey're not going to magically disappear The palastinians want to be there as well. So the two choices are they learn to reconcile peacefully or they solve it with extreme violence Hamas chose violence , So... I cannot say what should have been done in 1948. Palestine is also a State by recognition of 140 of the UN members. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine What is in dispute is Gaza. Israel is not unknown to use of violence. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Canada said the same thing about Jews and that's why Israel is correct to say this is a global war. We helped push it in that direction. The liberals said that about the jews. The conservatives were fine with them. At the end of the day however you're right more or less - the creation of isreal was an international act and therefore the international community has some involvement, But honestly - at this point the best thing they can do is stay out of it and let the two fight it out till one holler's hold enough. Sticking their nose in it hasn't helped this far and it's obvious there needs to be a clear winner and a clear loser. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You seem to forget Israel was given, it was not taken nor fought for nor conquered the land. Why should peoples that have lived there for thousands of year have to n=move because of a UN decree? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Seems to me the one without a clue, is you. Israel was "given" the same way, at the same time (8 months apart), that Pakistan was "given". The people who cry holy hell against Israel are just peachy keen with Pakistan. What's the difference? In Pakistan they had a large genocide, and they hung/burned alive/shot/stabbed/butchered all the Sikh and Hindu men, women and children that they could find. They were left with an islamic paradise which all muslim nations applaud, once they disposed of all those millions of rotting corpses. Then they committed another genocide in 1971, 3M more people, but it's no big deal: the Israelis are the most evil nation ever and the Pakistanis are awesome as far as 99% of muslims are concerned. Israel never committed any genocides, they just defended themselves from islamic jihadi justice for the last 70 years. *shudder*. It's so evil to resist islamic jihadi justice. They should let themselves and their children be slaughtered, right, ExFlyer? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I cannot say what should have been done in 1948. Palestine is also a State by recognition of 140 of the UN members. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine What is in dispute is Gaza. Israel is not unknown to use of violence. None of that addresses the point i made in the slightest, What are you claiming should be done today? I don't give a crap about what options were available in 48, that was the point - we are now here. So - the only way to resolve this is the palestinains accept isreal's existence and that what happened was necessary at the time and everyone looks at how to reconcile and move forward, OR - we let them duke it out till one side is dead. Which are you advocating for? Because either way the backstory isn't relevant any longer. Quote
eyeball Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But honestly - at this point the best thing they can do is stay out of it and let the two fight it out till one holler's hold enough. Sticking their nose in it hasn't helped this far and it's obvious there needs to be a clear winner and a clear loser. That'll never happen so long as our nose remains stuck in there. 56 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The liberals said that about the jews. The conservatives were fine with them. Sure, like that matters. Your agenda is even more obvious than blackbird's and its just as irrational. Edited October 10, 2023 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Read again. The jews were nowhere and everywhere for millennia. They dispersed themselves. The Romans only occupied for a couple hundred years. The Jews had no state, only a city. The Muslims fought for an won and kept the land. The muslims were like any force throughout time. They fought and kept what they won. Nothing was ever legislated for them. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ You are totally mixed up and lost. You are living in the wrong part of the world. The current attack by Hamas was pure evil. They are barbaric savages. Ask President Biden. Ask Americans? They have no respect for anything, no respect human life or innocent civilians. You should get out of Canada. You don't speak for civilized people. Quote
impartialobserver Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 Legally speaking.. not sure that you can as long as certain protocols are met. All that a single individual can do if they disagree with it is not attend such rallies. Quote
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: I cannot say what should have been done in 1948. Palestine is also a State by recognition of 140 of the UN members. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine What is in dispute is Gaza. Israel is not unknown to use of violence. Palestine does not have a state. It does not exist. They live in the State of Israel and come under Israel law. This attack was by a terrorist organization. It is brutal and savage behavior killing innocent people. You are nuts to talk about Palestinian rights when this is going on. You paint yourself into a corner. Edited October 10, 2023 by blackbird Quote
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: That'll never happen so long as our nose remains stuck in there. Sure, like that matters. Your agenda is even more obvious than blackbird's and its just as irrational. Never is a long time. And it may not wind up being our choice. The declaration of war is a serious business, and until one side surrenders it may be hard to stop Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Israel was "given" the same way, at the same time (8 months apart), that Pakistan was "given". The people who cry holy hell against Israel are just peachy keen with Pakistan. What's the difference? In Pakistan they had a large genocide, and they hung/burned alive/shot/stabbed/butchered all the Sikh and Hindu men, women and children that they could find. They were left with an islamic paradise which all muslim nations applaud, once they disposed of all those millions of rotting corpses. Then they committed another genocide in 1971, 3M more people, but it's no big deal: the Israelis are the most evil nation ever and the Pakistanis are awesome as far as 99% of muslims are concerned. Israel never committed any genocides, they just defended themselves from islamic jihadi justice for the last 70 years. *shudder*. It's so evil to resist islamic jihadi justice. They should let themselves and their children be slaughtered, right, ExFlyer? No difference. People in glass houses....... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-commits-widespread-war-crimes-gaza-humanitarian-catastrophe-imminent https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: None of that addresses the point i made in the slightest, What are you claiming should be done today? I don't give a crap about what options were available in 48, that was the point - we are now here. So - the only way to resolve this is the palestinains accept isreal's existence and that what happened was necessary at the time and everyone looks at how to reconcile and move forward, OR - we let them duke it out till one side is dead. Which are you advocating for? Because either way the backstory isn't relevant any longer. Guess I missed your point. Sorry. For all I care, let them have it out, once and for all. Thousands of years war should end. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: No difference. People in glass houses....... https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-commits-widespread-war-crimes-gaza-humanitarian-catastrophe-imminent https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution You don't seem to understand much of the world is anti-Semitic. There are many countries that are anti-Israel, anti-Semitic. Lots of them in the U.N. It is easy to find anti-Israel websites which is what you are picking. You need to wake up. Picking anti-Israel websites to quote just proves your anti-Semitism. All western democratic countries stand for Israel against these terrorists. You are on the wrong side. Why do you support terrorists? Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, blackbird said: You are totally mixed up and lost. You are living in the wrong part of the world. The current attack by Hamas was pure evil. They are barbaric savages. Ask President Biden. Ask Americans? They have no respect for anything, no respect human life or innocent civilians. You should get out of Canada. You don't speak for civilized people. Nope. I live in the right part of the world and today, not in a make believe thousand year old book. I would never ask Americans as they will only comp to something that they can make money from. I live and speak for myself. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 The anti-Israel stance of Iran, which is an ally of Russia, is being exploited by Russia. It get the world's attention off what Russia is doing in the Ukraine. Iran has been a backer financially of Hamas and Hezbollah. They are savages and not interested in peace. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, blackbird said: You don't seem to understand much of the world is anti-Semitic. There are many countries that are anti-Israel, anti-Semitic. Lots of them in the U.N. It is easy to find anti-Israel websites which is what you are picking. You need to wake up. Picking anti-Israel websites to quote just proves your anti-Semitism. All western democratic countries stand for Israel against these terrorists. You are on the wrong side. Why do you support terrorists? Don't care one little bit what the world likes or dislikes. 140 of 183 UN Nations approve of Palestine. Today's terrorists were yesterdays freedom fighters. I support neither. I just like getting under your bible thumping skin LOL Just now, blackbird said: The anti-Israel stance of Iran, which is an ally of Russia, is being exploited by Russia. It get the world's attention off what Russia is doing in the Ukraine. Iran has been a backer financially of Hamas and Hezbollah. They are savages and not interested in peace. Anti Israel stance by all middle eastern countries, not just Iran. The bible is full of "savagery" Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Guess I missed your point. Sorry. How could you miss it??!?! It's right at the top of my head!!!! *Basum-bump* Too good an oppoprtunity to walk away even if it was against me this time Sorry - i'll go sit in the corner,... Quote For all I care, let them have it out, once and for all. Thousands of years war should end. This is what i'm thinking. We need to set aside the whole "over the last 1000 years" crap and accept that today we have a reality, and one way or another that reality needs to be solved permanently Quote
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: 140 of 183 UN Nations approve of Palestine. That only proves that much of the U.N. is anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. If you form your opinions based on what anti-west anti-Israel countries claim or think, you are not a patriot of the west or democracy or freedom. Those countries are radical Islamist or Communist or tin dictatorships. You really don't know much. Do some studying. Your obsession against Judeo-Christianity is shameful. It is not part of historic western culture and freedom. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Don't care one little bit what the world likes or dislikes. 140 of 183 UN Nations approve of Palestine. 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Don't care one little bit what the world likes or dislikes. 140 of 183 UN Nations approve of Palestine. Today's terrorists were yesterdays freedom fighters. I support neither. I just like getting under your bible thumping skin LOL Anti Israel stance by all middle eastern countries, not just Iran. The bible is full of "savagery" Today's terrorists were yesterdays freedom fighters. I support neither. I just like getting under your bible thumping skin LOL Anti Israel stance by all middle eastern countries, not just Iran. The bible is full of "savagery" https://www.pravmir.com/bible-contain-many-acts-savagery/ https://claudemariottini.com/2019/11/11/the-savage-god-of-the-old-testament/ Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
blackbird Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I just like getting under your bible thumping skin LOL So you admit your whole purpose is to oppose Christianity, oppose God and oppose the Bible. That is self destructive and only leads to hell. Do you really want to spend eternity in hell. You are a prolific human rights violator in your crusade against Judeo-Christianity. That's why you shouldn't even be in this country. You don't believe in western culture. Edited October 10, 2023 by blackbird Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, blackbird said: That only proves that much of the U.N. is anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. If you form your opinions based on what anti-west anti-Israel countries claim or think, you are not a patriot of the west or democracy or freedom. Those countries are radical Islamist or Communist or tin dictatorships. You really don't know much. Do some studying. Your obsession against Judeo-Christianity is shameful. It is not part of historic western culture and freedom. The same UN that made Israel?? I form my opinion by watching and listening and seeing zealots... like oyu and yes, you turn me off. I do know a lot and mostly know I am glad to not be be even a little bit as narrow minded as you. I have no obsession against Judeo-Christianity, just against the zealousness of fanatics and wannabe saviours like you. Anyone can believe anything anytime just as long as they don't vomit it up to me. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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