The Chaos Party Strikes Again

[Aristides]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/03/kevin-mccarthy-oust-republican-house-speaker-vote-result-matt-gaetz

 

No interest in doing their job.

[Hodad]

This has been a worsening problem in the House for many years now. They only have to win votes in their small district, so it's much easier for extremists to get into office. 

For the Democrats it means a few people with views outside the mainstream, like AOC. Which is sort of the point of the House, and she's not going to get the votes and not going to get her way.

For Republicans it means people who are leading the race to the bottom--people who would rather just burn it all down--in a contest to out-crazy one another. And you just don't need that many votes to sabotage and paralyze American government.

I don't think our founding fathers really contemplated the idea that a few people would get into government not to govern, but to destroy government.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

This has been a worsening problem in the House for many years now. They only have to win votes in their small district, so it's much easier for extremists to get into office. 

For the Democrats it means somebody with views outside the mainstream, like AOC.

For Republicans it means people who are leading the race to the bottom--people who would rather just burn it all down--in a contest to out-crazy one another.

Well, first off AOC is actually someone who just wants to burn it all down and is leading the race to the bottom in a contest to out-crazy the others

but aside from that the structure is a problem. It's one of the reasons that overall i prefer a westminster system to a republic.

But in fainess it was mostly democrats that voted him out. I don't think he was working well for anyone

[herbie]

The GOP is only there to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
No interest whatsoever in what's good for the USA, just tear down whatever they can and block anything that is constructive. As you said CHAOS Party, modern day anarchists,

[Aristides]

What is it about Florida that breeds such A hole politicians? Mind you, McCarthy did it to himself when he sold his soul to the crazies in exchange for the job. No sympathy.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

The GOP is only there to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
No interest whatsoever in what's good for the USA, just tear down whatever they can and block anything that is constructive. As you said CHAOS Party, modern day anarchists,

well it was the dems who voted him out but sure whatever.

[Deluge]

On 10/3/2023 at 5:18 PM, Aristides said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/03/kevin-mccarthy-oust-republican-house-speaker-vote-result-matt-gaetz

 

No interest in doing their job.

You mean no interest in doing the democrats' job. Gaetz is doing the right thing. 

My hope is that Trump steps in as Speaker until he wins the presidency in 2024.

On 10/3/2023 at 5:37 PM, Hodad said:

This has been a worsening problem in the House for many years now. They only have to win votes in their small district, so it's much easier for extremists to get into office. 

For the Democrats it means a few people with views outside the mainstream, like AOC. Which is sort of the point of the House, and she's not going to get the votes and not going to get her way.

For Republicans it means people who are leading the race to the bottom--people who would rather just burn it all down--in a contest to out-crazy one another. And you just don't need that many votes to sabotage and paralyze American government.

I don't think our founding fathers really contemplated the idea that a few people would get into government not to govern, but to destroy government.

The democrat party has been infected by the woke virus and it has spilled over to the Right.

Gaetz and the others are doing the right thing. 

[Aristides]

28 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You mean no interest in doing the democrats' job. Gaetz is doing the right thing. 

My hope is that Trump steps in as Speaker until he wins the presidency in 2024.

The democrat party has been infected by the woke virus and it has spilled over to the Right.

Gaetz and the others are doing the right thing. 

So it is the Democrat's job to pass laws and run the country and the GOP's job to make it impossible? 

What have Gaetz and Co. done other than obstruct and disrupt?  Do you elect people to run your country or just pick partisan fights to help their fund raising? Trump will not be speaker, not only because he wouldn't get the support of moderate Republicans but it would guarantee the Dems controlling the House after the next election.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Aristides

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, Aristides said:

So it is the Democrat's job to pass laws and run the country and the GOP's job to make it impossible? 

Oh, hell no. It's the democrats' job to go f*ck themselves. Gaetz and the others will get things under control. 

When the democrat party expels the woke filth and becomes the Democratic Party, then we'll be able to get back to normal.

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Deluge

[Aristides]

Another stupid ranting post that proposes nothing constructive. No wonder you love these mor ons.

[Rebound]

14 hours ago, Deluge said:

Oh, hell no. It's the democrats' job to go f*ck themselves. Gaetz and the others will get things under control. 

When the democrat party expels the woke filth and becomes the Democratic Party, then we'll be able to get back to normal.

 

Woke just means accepting that black and gay people have the same rights as everyone else. Not more rights or special rights, just the same rights. And it is positive to explain that these groups have had their rights violated in the past.  
 

Equality is a Constitutional right. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that gay people have a right to be married. If that bothers you, that’s your problem.  

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Woke just means...

Woke means whatever I tell you it means. 

You are a woke cultist and your mind is not right, therefore, I will teach you about "woke". 

We'll start with Conservapedia:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Woke

After you've had a chance to read through that, we'll discuss any questions that you have.

[Rebound]

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Woke means whatever I tell you it means. 

You are a woke cultist and your mind is not right, therefore, I will teach you about "woke". 

We'll start with Conservapedia:

https://www.conservapedia.com/Woke

After you've had a chance to read through that, we'll discuss any questions that you have.

That’s a terribly written entry which is a mishmash of quotations.
 

The article cites David Brooks’ definition of ‘woke.’ I looked up the article and Brooks wrote, “The woke mentality has been embraced on the populist right, by the conservative “normals” who are disgusted with what they see as the thorough corruption of the Republican and Democratic establishments. See Kurt Schlichter’s Townhall essay “We Must Elect Senator Kid Rock” as an example of right-wing wokedness.

To be woke is to be radically aware and justifiably paranoid. It is to be cognizant of the rot pervading the power structures.”

Since that’s the definition you choose and I am not aligned with the populist right, I am not woke and you are.  

Edited October 6, 2023 by Rebound

[Deluge]

10 minutes ago, Rebound said:

That’s a terribly written entry which is a mishmash of quotations.
 

The article cites David Brooks’ definition of ‘woke.’ I looked up the article and Brooks wrote, “The woke mentality has been embraced on the populist right, by the conservative “normals” who are disgusted with what they see as the thorough corruption of the Republican and Democratic establishments. See Kurt Schlichter’s Townhall essay “We Must Elect Senator Kid Rock” as an example of right-wing wokedness.

To be woke is to be radically aware and justifiably paranoid. It is to be cognizant of the rot pervading the power structures.”

Since that’s the definition you choose and I am not aligned with the populist right, I am not woke and you are.  

You don't get to cherry pick your favorite shit, woketard. We're going to go through this together:

Woke, "adjective (woker, wokest) informal alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism. 

Now, I see you perverts crying about racism almost daily. Can we both agree that your cries are "informal alerts"? 

Edited October 6, 2023 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

Woke just means accepting that black and gay people have the same rights as everyone else. Not more rights or special rights, just the same rights.

It would require a gov't funded research team to think of a bigger lie than that.

Blacks and gays had the same rights as everyone else. Which rights does some other colour or sex have that those don't?

But they want more. They want the right to burn cities.  THey want reparations. They want to destroy the national history and tear down any statue they find 'offensive'.  They want to demand other people produce products for them. They DEMAND to have everyone else's children participate actively in their 'pride' celebrations regardless of religious or other belief - not just accept their right to have those but to demand compulsory participation.

They demand all kinds of special rights. They demand special entrances to learning institutions, they demand that it's racist of someone says something about black people but not racist if someone says something racists about white people.

 

As to woke - woke refers to a far left idea or policy that is focused on impractical social ideology rather than facts fairness or equity.  Like denying parents the right to know what's happening with their children under the premise that teachers should be the one raising them with their own cultural ideas.  Didn't we do that once? (res schools)