TreeBeard Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Why would you make white kids feel excluded? Don’t set your hair on fire…. No one destroyed the original white mermaid files. Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 17 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No one destroyed the original white mermaid files. Why do you think black kids feel excluded by a white mermaid, but white kids wouldn't by a purposely made black one? Little kids don't care about your race issues, why are you teaching it to them? Why teach people to be racist? Where do you people draw the line? 1 Quote
Yakuda Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 13 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Making black kids feel included? Making money from a new audience? I can think of several. Can’t you? I've been to Disney world and seen little black girls dressed as Snow White. Which apparently they didn't since the thing flopped. Sure. Pandering and virtue signaling. 13 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Don’t set your hair on fire…. No one destroyed the original white mermaid files. Answer the question. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 The existence of this newer (pay attention to the "er") does not make the older animated version cease to exist. if the race of a fictional character is so important.. nothing is stopping you from watching one of the two versions. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 On 1/16/2024 at 11:48 AM, TreeBeard said: So they made a business decision to try and capture a new paying audience. So what? I can’t believe social conservatives set their hair on fire over the colour of mermaids. LOL If it was a business decision I wouldn't care. But instead they made a decision that would actually COST the company hundreds of millions of dollars. Little Mermaid barely broke even and lagged far beyond the box office of other cartoons brought to life films they've done. Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: If it was a business decision I wouldn't care. You care that the mermaid is black because they didn’t make enough money? 😑 Quote
Black Dog Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: If it was a business decision I wouldn't care. But instead they made a decision that would actually COST the company hundreds of millions of dollars. Little Mermaid barely broke even and lagged far beyond the box office of other cartoons brought to life films they've done. It was the 8th highest grossing film of 2023. But let's say you're right and it was a flop and that was because they made Ariel black (and not because people are tired of reboots and the film itself didn't get good reviews). What kind of person doesn't go to a move because of the race of the lead actor? 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
I am Groot Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: It was the 8th highest grossing film of 2023. But let's say you're right and it was a flop and that was because they made Ariel black (and not because people are tired of reboots and the film itself didn't get good reviews). What kind of person doesn't go to a move because of the race of the lead actor? It barely made enough to cover the cost of making and marketing it. And a big part of the reason why was that it flopped in Asia, which is a huge market. You might not be aware of it but the Chinese are not big fans of Black folks. https://movieweb.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-success/ Quote
I am Groot Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: You care that the mermaid is black because they didn’t make enough money? 😑 No. I care that the little mermaid was black because knowing Disney they made a deliberate decision to cast a black actress to virtue signal. And the reason I know that is black lead actors/actresses rarely make as much money as White ones. Don't bother pointing out the movies where they did. Those are the exceptions that prove the rule. There are a very few well-known black actors who can carry a movie, but only a very few. Wil Smith used to be one but probably not so much anymore. Disney does this stuff on a regular basis. And it does it with no bones about why it's doing it. Its directors and showrunners are very public about them deliberately casting women instead of men and 'racialized people' instead of white people. Just look at what they've done to the Marvel and Star Wars universes. Three quarters of the fan base are males and they keep trying to shove female heroes into their faces and having flops because of it. Not that men won't see movies and TV shows with good female characters. But Disney doesn't really know how to write live action female characters. It makes them all Mary Sues, and thus bland, boring and uninteresting. Nor is it helped by the actresses it casts, or the directors it hires, who tend to not be very good at their jobs. Have a look at what the director of the next Star Wars feature film has to say. She's never directed a movie before, by the way. She has limited experience directing feminist documentaries. On the other hand, she has ovaries and is racialized so... good enough! Anyway, she likes to make men uncomfortable, she says. Well, I'm sure the 75% of Star Wars fans who are male will appreciate that. https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/1/3/ceagg7u4inz180nfgp3su5tm479opi#:~:text=There hasn't been a,be directed by Obaid-Chinoy. Edited February 10, 2024 by I am Groot Quote
Black Dog Posted February 11, 2024 Report Posted February 11, 2024 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: It barely made enough to cover the cost of making and marketing it. And a big part of the reason why was that it flopped in Asia, which is a huge market. You might not be aware of it but the Chinese are not big fans of Black folks. https://movieweb.com/the-little-mermaid-box-office-success/ Sounds you have something in common with them! 1 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
I am Groot Posted February 11, 2024 Report Posted February 11, 2024 15 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Sounds you have something in common with them! I get that you guys over there on the Left hate it when anyone points out the realities of life, but what I'm not a fan of is tokenism, paternalism, and virtue signaling. I'm also very much not a fan of equity (as opposed to equality). And as a guy who invests heavily in the stock market, I'm not a fan of a company that deliberately chooses to alienate large portions of its potential audience just to give the finger to conservative Americans. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 11, 2024 Report Posted February 11, 2024 6 hours ago, I am Groot said: I get that you guys over there on the Left hate it when anyone points out the realities of life, but what I'm not a fan of is tokenism, paternalism, and virtue signaling. I'm also very much not a fan of equity (as opposed to equality). And as a guy who invests heavily in the stock market, I'm not a fan of a company that deliberately chooses to alienate large portions of its potential audience just to give the finger to conservative Americans. That's not a denial. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
I am Groot Posted February 11, 2024 Report Posted February 11, 2024 7 hours ago, Black Dog said: That's not a denial. Didn't feel the need to make one. Quote
impartialobserver Posted February 26, 2024 Report Posted February 26, 2024 If this movie was the one and only movie available.. then I am Groot has a point. Being that it is one of millions.. It would seem that he has a choice to watch it. Strange how he does not recognize this. Quote
herbie Posted March 9, 2024 Report Posted March 9, 2024 You have a choice. Show us how non racist you are by ordering your choice of mermaid colour. FFS 2024 and there's 3 pages of discussion on this shit. Quote
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