Rebound Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Consider the issues that Conservatives tout today: Woke! OMG! Woke! Woke! CRT! It’s the most important thing to stop! Books! We have got to take books away from children! Drag Shows! They will destroy our children! Do you notice what these issues all have in common? They don’t matter one iota! Conservatives whip their followers up into frenzies over books they’ve never read, legal concepts they don’t understand, and shows they’ve never been to… and convince them that those things are the most urgent issues in America! What matters are jobs, and healthcare, and quality education. Building and maintaining roads. Social Security for retirees. Conservatives have an answer for all of these things: Budget Cuts. What the conservative leaders are doing is focusing their sheep-like followers to care about insignificant, meaningless issues which don’t affect their lives… so that they can get elected and destroy programs that directly affect people’s lives. Every single Western nation has a form of centralized healthcare except for the United States. And it’s because the billionaires like Koch, who fund the GOP, don’t want to pay more taxes. It’s all about pulling the wool over people’s eyes so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That is the reason why our cities are filling up with homeless people. We had homelessness in the 30’s, but we had a government who cared about those people, and didn’t blame them for their plight. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rebound said: Woke! OMG! Woke! Woke! CRT! It’s the most important thing to stop! Books! We have got to take books away from children! Drag Shows! They will destroy our children! Maybe MAGA conservatives, but the above aren't conservative ideals. If you're going to bash all conservatives, at least be more specific in your argument, to prove all conservafivd politicians think this way. What you're doing is picking on hot topic issues, vs the governing principles of what it is to be conservative. You would be best off proving with data, not catch phrases, that conservative governments end up always turning roads to ruin, and job forces to desert wastelands. I'll wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rebound said: Your list is incomplete, woketard. You forgot heterosexual families and Christianity. Those matter equally, if not more. Now, once we free companies, hospitals, schools, churches and families of woke hijackers, things will really start to sizzle. Edited June 8, 2023 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Do you notice what these issues all have in common? They don’t matter one iota! Conservatives whip their followers up into frenzies over books they’ve never read, legal concepts they don’t understand, and shows they’ve never been to… and convince them that those things are the most urgent issues in America! You don't think protecting children from PEDOPHILES is important? That is perhaps because your side of the aisle CHAMPIONS pedophelia, child pornography and child trafficking. What matters are jobs, and healthcare, and quality education. Building and maintaining roads. Social Security for retirees. Conservatives have an answer for all of these things: Budget Cuts. You as usual have NO idea what you are talking about. Two thirds of the federal budget are ENTITLEMENTS. Their budgets have NEVER been cut and CANNOT be cut without an act of Congress that overturns baseline budgeting (something Nixon signed into law.) So two thirds of the federal budget (which by the way are TRANSFER PAYMENTS) have never been cut and cannot be cut by law. President Reagan tried cutting their rate of yearly increase and was crucified by the Nazi media. Any budget cutting would be in that 36 percent that is left, which means cutting into spending where the taxpayer gets value for his/her taxes. (Military, roads, government salaries, court systems, police, prison systems, etc) Conservatives believe that the ONLY way to prevent a complete meltdown of the economy (which the Kerrey Danforth Report predicted would occur in 2030) would be to END baseline budgeting and go to HONEST means tested budgeting. But you goose steppers don't want to give up that power. Every single Western nation has a form of centralized healthcare except for the United States. Yet the WHOLE WORLD comes to the United States for cancer treatment because our market based system has provided for the greatest advancements in medical breakthroughs. All centralized healthcare has done is make it more expensive. As usual, you are wrong on every count. You obviously were socially promoted through a blue state school, because you don't know anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 Maybe MAGA conservatives, but the above aren't conservative ideals. You apparently care more about slogans than you do about reality. There is no such thing as MAGA conservatives. There are merely mainstream conservatives (who make up most of America and who reelected President Trump in a second landslide, only to have that election overturned by voter fraud.) What is it about Make America Great Again that has gotten your pink panties into such an uproar? Woke! OMG! Woke! Woke! CRT! It’s the most important thing to stop! Books! We have got to take books away from children! Drag Shows! They will destroy our children! Woke is modern day liberalism (which pretty much means goose stepping National Socialism, just like the Third Reich. Woke individuals are ignorant, uneducated, entitled and intolerant, just like their KKK predecessors. Just as those Nazis bash conservatives like Reagan, Limbaugh, etc, we conservatives bash those Nazis. ) CRT is RACIST. It is a lie. It is as important to stop as the KKK, Slavery, JIm Crow Laws, etc. If you believe RACISM shouldn't be stopped, YOU'RE a racist. Nobody wants to take books away from children except for PORN, which is what blue state schools are currently pushing. Do you think a CHILD should be allowed to read explicit PORN? If that's the case, you're a pedophile. Drag shows are PEDOPHILE shows. Why not just let registered sex offenders work at daycare centers while we're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted June 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: Maybe MAGA conservatives, but the above aren't conservative ideals. If you're going to bash all conservatives, at least be more specific in your argument, to prove all conservafivd politicians think this way. What you're doing is picking on hot topic issues, vs the governing principles of what it is to be conservative. You would be best off proving with data, not catch phrases, that conservative governments end up always turning roads to ruin, and job forces to desert wastelands. I'll wait. I’ll wait for those people to return to the US Republican Party. Wake me up when they show up. As for conservative “governing principles,” actions speak louder than words. Reagan: DEFICITS Bush Jr: DEFICITS Trump: DEFICITS Deficits grew each year under their rule. Bush Senior… I’ll credit him. I think he was the only truly fiscal responsible Republican President. Nixon certainly wasn’t, nor were the others. Edited June 8, 2023 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) You make sweeping statements. Not all conservatives or liberals are created alike. Edited June 8, 2023 by Perspektiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted June 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: You make sweeping statements. Not all conservatives or liberals are created alike. No, I agree with Tom Morello: If 9 people sit down to dinner with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table. As for radical leftists: I thoroughly reject them. And nearly every Democratic member of Congress does as well. Tell me how many Republican members of Congress have said that Donald Trump should have been impeached for Jan 6? How many Republican members of Congress have said that George Santos should be removed? BUT, what happened when it was revealed that Al Franken had engaged in sexual misconduct? Democratic Senators forced him to resign. So don’t pretend “they’re all the same.” They aren’t. There is clear evidence that Donald Trump committed crimes, and US Senators respond by threatening violent riots. Not the same. Edited June 8, 2023 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rebound said: Donald Trump You can't compare Trump to any prior president. He's unprecedented. It would be like trying to draw comparisons from Angela Merkel, to Hitler. Sure, they governed the same country, but thats where the comparisons stop. You're comparing a politician to an extremist. Trump is a bully. His party remained silent, as Pence showcased what happens to you when you confront him head on. Does that make them turncoats? Absolutely. But find me one recent politician with a spine, oddly enough that isn't named Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted June 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: You can't compare Trump to any prior president. He's unprecedented. It would be like trying to draw comparisons from Angela Merkel, to Hitler. Sure, they governed the same country, but thats where the comparisons stop. You're comparing a politician to an extremist. Trump is a bully. His party remained silent, as Pence showcased what happens to you when you confront him head on. Does that make them turncoats? Absolutely. But find me one recent politician with a spine, oddly enough that isn't named Trump. Liz Cheney Adam Kinzinger Mitt Romney Edited June 8, 2023 by Rebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Maybe MAGA conservatives, but the above aren't conservative ideals. They are nonetheless central to the GOP's chance of election so it's reasonable to conclude enough MAGA-chud ideals will be incorporated into the government's style to the extent they effectively constitute their substance as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) When I go to a sporting event, or drink a beer, or go to buy groceries I don't need to be bombarded with a celebration of gay sex. I don't know why you insist I do Why all the obsession with gay on gay action? Strange Edited June 8, 2023 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Maybe MAGA conservatives, but the above aren't conservative ideals. If you're going to bash all conservatives, at least be more specific in your argument, to prove all conservafivd politicians think this way. What you're doing is picking on hot topic issues, vs the governing principles of what it is to be conservative. You would be best off proving with data, not catch phrases, that conservative governments end up always turning roads to ruin, and job forces to desert wastelands. I'll wait. The traditional family unit is as American as apple pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted June 8, 2023 Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, West said: Why all the obsession with gay on gay action? Pushing this agenda, allows for some major curbs on language under guise of protecting a minority group. All the while, black people still get shot over a stick of bubble gum or less, on a daily basis and nobody bats an eyelid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted June 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, West said: When I go to a sporting event, or drink a beer, or go to buy groceries I don't need to be bombarded with a celebration of gay sex. I don't know why you insist I do Why all the obsession with gay on gay action? Strange Sure. That’s because you’re a bigot, and that’s your problem, not theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Rebound said: Sure. That’s because you’re a bigot, and that’s your problem, not theirs. I'm just not a pervert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 In practice conservatism is anti-working class. Culture War is how they get working class people to vote against their own interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted June 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, West said: The traditional family unit is as American as apple pie There’s nothing wrong with apple pie, but some people prefer key lime pie. Or lemon meringue. But I digress: You’re a bigot, and it’s wrong. Gay people aren’t a threat to you, or to children. They don’t threaten me, they don’t want to take anything from me, they just want to live their lives like everybody else. They don’t want special treatment. There are people I’ve known since third grade or junior high and now they’re gay. They were tomboys or effeminate way back when they were kids. It’s just how they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 hours ago, West said: When I go to a sporting event, or drink a beer, or go to buy groceries I don't need to be bombarded with a celebration of gay sex. I don't know why you insist I do Why all the obsession with gay on gay action? Strange YOU seem to be the one obsessed. Most who don't like it have NO PROBLEM ignoring it. 5 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Pushing this agenda, allows for some major curbs on language under guise of protecting a minority group. All the while, black people still get shot over a stick of bubble gum or less, on a daily basis and nobody bats an eyelid. BLM says OTHERWISE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOU seem to be the one obsessed. Most who don't like it have NO PROBLEM ignoring it. BLM says OTHERWISE. I AM NOT THE ONE PUTTING OUT THE ADVERTISING YOU NUT 12 minutes ago, Rebound said: There’s nothing wrong with apple pie, but some people prefer key lime pie. Or lemon meringue. But I digress: You’re a bigot, and it’s wrong. Gay people aren’t a threat to you, or to children. They don’t threaten me, they don’t want to take anything from me, they just want to live their lives like everybody else. They don’t want special treatment. There are people I’ve known since third grade or junior high and now they’re gay. They were tomboys or effeminate way back when they were kids. It’s just how they are. Keep your sexual perversions away from kids and in the bedroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, West said: I AM NOT THE ONE PUTTING OUT THE ADVERTISING YOU NUT NO ONE said you are, YOU NUT. You're just the one who is OBSESSED with it. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, robosmith said: BLM says OTHERWISE. BLM is about black people succumbing to being shot by other black people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: BLM is about black people succumbing to being shot by other black people? BLM is all about "batting an eye" when black people are shot. Not sure where you get your "stick of gum" shtick. Most blacks killing blacks are the drug gangs fighting over turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Rebound said: Do you notice what these issues all have in common? They don’t matter one iota! Then why are you talking about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 9, 2023 Report Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: In practice conservatism is anti-working class. Culture War is how they get working class people to vote against their own interests. That's the kind of lie the left loves to tell to cover their own bad behavior. Conservatives have always been pro working class. Culture war is a leftie invention and it serves their purpose, not the rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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