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Most Canadians don't think religion has anything to do with politics or our system of government in Canada.  They could not be more wrong.  It is the religion of Romanism which is behind much of politics in Canada.  This is where the U.S. differs from Canada to some degree as it was at least in the first few hundreds years more Protestant than Romanist.  The U.S. was built on liberty and freedom by people who escaped the authoritarianism of Europe.   Now with mass immigration from Latin America it may be leaning more toward Romanism.  America never had a Romanist President until John F. Kennedy and now Joe Biden.  

Romanism (Popery) is one of the biggest threats to freedom of Canadians.  It is a totalitarian system that in history has used any means as its disposal to enforce its will on the populations.  Many if not most of our political leaders and their liberal supporters are in fact Romanists.  The question is what is their main loyalty to?  Is it to Rome and Romanism or to Canada and Canadians?  It is a unspoken rule of Romanists never to mention religion and play it low key.  But it is behind the scene as the driving force.  It is what built much of the educational  institutions which many Romanists attended such as both Trudeau Prime Ministers.  Even the present controversial figure and former GG,  David Johnston can be seen as a loyal Romanist.  Google it.  He led a delegation to the Vatican representing Canada when he was GG on one occasion.  Johnson has now been appointed to protect the Prime Minister in a special position supposedly investigating foreign interference.  But is it really a political job to protect Trudeau and Liberals?   Many of our political leaders have bowed and scraped to the Popes.  

An example of the totalitarian nature of Romanism in history is the Holy Roman Inquisition.  An internet article on mainstream news about the Spanish Inquisition makes the claim the Inquisition was directed against Jew and Muslims.  This is not completely true.  The Inquisition was directed against anyone who questioned Romanism.  Various independent groups that formed in Europe as separate religious groups were targeted and genocide was committed against them to eliminate them.  This went on for centuries.

Our supposedly democratic government, while under the heavy influence of Romanism, has become more authoritarian than ever.  We see that with the imposition of carbon taxes and regulations on Canadian companies and the particular attacks on the energy industry.  All this is driven by ideology which the Vatican pushes.  Liberals push open borders and oppose patriotism and nationalism of any kind because of the Vatican doctrines of globalism.  Trudeau and liberals are strong proponents of globalism and internationalism, which are central to Vatican ideology and beliefs.

We see influence of authoritarian Romanism in liberal ideology where they want to censor everyone and control freedom of speech and other things.  This harkens back to the middle ages where Romanism thought they have the right to control everyone.  Now with the internet under increasing regulation, it is becoming more like Orwell's 1984.  That is Romanism.

The only escape from this mind control is on an individual basis by reading and believing the King James Bible.  Rome hates this.  Even modern Bible versions have fallen to some degree under the influence of Romanism and should be rejected.  Many have fallen for them.   The King James Bible was on the list of forbidden books long ago.  It is not approved reading by the Vatican.  But it is the absolute source of truth that can deliver an individual from falling or remaining under the mental influence and control of Romanism.  This also mean liberalism or liberal ideology, which is closely associated with Romanism.

What exactly was the Spanish Inquisition? (msn.com)

 

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"Romanism (Popery) is one of the biggest threats to freedom of Canadians. "

The founding religion of the Europeans in Canada, that predates everything except First Nations occupation of their homeland.  They planted a cross when their feet touched the soil...

And now it's one of the biggest threats.

I am going to print this symbol out and put it on my wall under the crucifix:

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

liberal ideology where they want to censor everyone and control freedom of speech and other things. 

LOL

You want to blasphemy laws, so are you really one to criticize anyone?   

 

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Spanish Inquisition

It’s funny you would need to go so far back to find a criticism.   I would have picked support for the Nazi regime and the hiding of pedophile priests as more contemporary criticisms.  

 

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

The King James Bible was on the list of forbidden books long ago. 

It’s banned in Utah schools now too!  LOL

 

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I think you’re picking the wrong cause by going after Catholics if defending Christianity is your aim.   People from all denominations, all religions, all atheist belief systems, and all political ideologies have committed sins, broken laws, and done bad stuff.  Yes some more than others and all is up for debate.

I would worry less about the finer points of your particular religion’s theology than the ability to practice and express your beliefs in this climate of compelled speech, censorship, and cancellation.  

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1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

You want to blasphemy laws, so are you really one to criticize anyone?   

Where did I say I want blasphemy laws?  Lying again?  It never ends with you.

 

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

"Romanism (Popery) is one of the biggest threats to freedom of Canadians. "

The founding religion of the Europeans in Canada, that predates everything except First Nations occupation of their homeland.  They planted a cross when their feet touched the soil...

And now it's one of the biggest threats.

I am going to print this symbol out and put it on my wall under the crucifix:

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I know you are a closet Romanist.  You prove it all the time.

Incidentally it was mainly Romanism that ran the residential schools and people were oppressed and lost their freedom.

Anglicanism is close to Romanism and those were the two main churches that along with the Romanist federal government ran the residential schools.  Had little to nothing to do with Biblical Christianity and everything to do with the authority of the Romanist political system and churches.

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59 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think you’re picking the wrong cause by going after Catholics if defending Christianity is your aim.  

It is impossible to comment on Romanism as a political-religious system without some people feeling it is "going after Catholics".  My critique is not aimed a individual Catholics.  I know they are the poor deluded victims of a false religious system.  So it is necessary to target the system of Romanism to shed light on the subject. When talking about the political aspect of it, it is necessary to mention those political figures who support the false religious system.  Some call it the religion of Babylon.  There are claims and some credible information that it formed in the 4th century from the Babylonian mystery religions.  A kind of amalgamation of early Christian beliefs and the ancient Babylonian religions.  I know of no other way of bringing light on the subject.

I must reiterate Romanism is NOT Christianity in any shape or form.   Many deluded people think it is.  It uses Christian words but that does not make it Christian.  

Read the New Testament KJV and learn why it is not Christianity.

It is a kind political religious ideology that much of the world believes, but it is not Christianity.

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10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 

Why don’t you ask @Michael Hardner which denomination he is?  I doubt he’s worried about keeping it a secret.  

Yes, I would ban blasphemous movies.  I thought you were referring to speech.  I don't believe in speech control in general. There might be some exceptions.  So I would not favour laws to ban certain speech, but in certain cases I might be in favour of banning certain speech.   But immoral movies should be banned.  If they are called blasphemous movies so be it. 

But I don't believe in the Taliban, Iran, Pakistan style of blasphemy laws where one could be executed for blasphemy against Allah or the Prophet.

Ask Michael yourself if you want to know.  I don't care.  I know he is a liberal much like yourself.

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think you’re picking the wrong cause by going after Catholics if defending Christianity is your aim.   People from all denominations, all religions, all atheist belief systems, and all political ideologies have committed sins, broken laws, and done bad stuff.  Yes some more than others and all is up for debate.

I would worry less about the finer points of your particular religion’s theology than the ability to practice and express your beliefs in this climate of compelled speech, censorship, and cancellation.  

Depends on one's perspective.  You would say that because you consider yourself a Catholic.  

Since it is one of the biggest religions if not the biggest in the western world, it has a massive influence on politics.  Therefore it is necessary to speak about it.   All these things you mention..compelled speech, censorship, etc. are all related to the Romanist - liberal ideology of authoritarianism based on humanism or man's ideas of what morality is.  Romanism does not go by the Bible in general and is somewhat tied to humanist ideology.

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28 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 

Why don’t you ask @Michael Hardner which denomination he is?  I doubt he’s worried about keeping it a secret.  

Hm ?  Why me ?

Anyway, yes, born Catholic and still consider myself Christian and Catholic although I only participate for celebratory reasons.

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hm ?  Why me ?

Anyway, yes, born Catholic and still consider myself Christian and Catholic although I only participate for celebratory reasons.

That comes as no surprise.  Just more evidence of how liberalism is often tied to Romanists or lapsed Catholics.   You see what I mean then.  Many strong liberals are Romanists and that's likely where a lot of their ideology comes from.   According to their thinking, Jesus was some kind liberal or Socialist or progressive which are all wrong.  The Bible does not support that liberal ideology.

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3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That comes as no surprise.  Just more evidence of how liberalism is often tied to Romanists or lapsed Catholics.   You see what I mean then.  Many strong liberals are Romanists and that's likely where a lot of their ideology comes from.   According to their thinking, Jesus was some kind liberal or Socialist or progressive which are all wrong.  The Bible does not support that liberal ideology.

Well, I have never been a 'closet' anything.

My take on you is that your version of Christianity is just incorrect.  Neither of us can prove that the other isn't Christian, and that's more sad for you than for me.

I knew a famous Christian who was accused by a powerful man of being a Marxist.  "Have you read Marx sir ?" she asked.  "Yes" he said.  "Perhaps you're the Marxist then because I only read the gospels."

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It would be so easy for these deluded Catholics to get a real Bible like the King James Bible and study the New Testament and learn why Romanism is not Christianity.  But they blindly follow their religion like many people do and just won't be bothered to are too scared to find out the truth.  There are also many website that will give the details about it and explain it.  Instead of being a cultist and blindly following a false system to the end, maybe think for yourself for once and learn the truth.  It is not that difficult to do.  

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

My take on you is that your version of Christianity is just incorrect.  Neither of us can prove that the other isn't Christian, and that's more sad for you than for me.

Oh yes we can prove who is correct or on the right road.  Jesus spoke about two roads if I recall correctly.   The prophet Isaiah said " 20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."   Isaiah 8:20 KJV

If you think you have the correct version of Christianity, please give some evidence or proof.  Let's examine it honestly and see who is correct.   You insist I am wrong and you are correct, but give no proof.  Give us the proof that you are correct.  What is your basis?

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35 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, I would ban blasphemous movies.  I thought you were referring to speech. 

Movies are speech. 
Would you put blasphemous Youtube videos in the same category as the movies you want to ban?  What about tv shows?

How about blasphemous books?  Ban those?

37 minutes ago, blackbird said:

So I would not favour laws to ban certain speech, but in certain cases I might be in favour of banning certain speech. 

This may be the funniest attempt at an argument that I’ve ever read.  Thanks for the laugh!  I almost spit out my coffee when I read that!

 

38 minutes ago, blackbird said:

But I don't believe in the Taliban, Iran, Pakistan style of blasphemy laws where one could be executed for blasphemy against Allah or the Prophet.

Only against Jesus?  
What should be the punishment for making a blasphemous movie in Canada?

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6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

1.  It would be so easy for these deluded Catholics to get a real Bible like the King James Bible and study the New Testament and learn why Romanism is not Christianity. 

2.  But they blindly follow their religion like many people do....
 
3. ...maybe think for yourself for once and learn the truth.  It is not that difficult to do.  

1. I use the Jerusalem Bible, thanks.. Your religion is based on Henry VIII getting chicks pregnant who aren't his wife.
2. I just spit out my sacramental wine all over the laptop screen.... 
3. And peace be with you too...

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10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

@blackbird called you a closet Romanticist, or whatever.   So, I thought it might be better if they just asked you, rather than assume.  

My problem is that "Ignore" leaves few people to read on here.  If it's a topic I am interested in, I read all of your posts, Moonbox, Contrarian... what have you.

But others, I respond only when I'm bored ... then they're still ignored so I don't see responses...

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49 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I expect Romanists will downvote and disagree with my views on Romanism, but I am simply stating the facts of how I see it.  If you can produce any reasoning or evidence on how I am wrong, feel free.

You're not stating many facts here, Father Brimstone.  You're just obnoxiously mouthing off.  

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32 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Only against Jesus?  
What should be the punishment for making a blasphemous movie in Canada?

You are being ridiculous as usual.  There is no hope for a reasonable discussion with you.  Christians do not support or advocate punishing people for blasphemous speaking.  You know that as well but you are just being contrary as usual.

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5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Your religion is based on Henry VIII getting chicks pregnant who aren't his wife.

LOL  That is hilarious I have to admit.  If you really believe that, you must be a seriously deluded Romanist.  Are you a priest or retired one?  I've heard that line before but it ignores the reality about the Reformation.  

While Henry VIII did split with Rome over the disagreement about not being given a divorce, that really had little to do with the Reformation.  The split with Rome was happening in various countries in Europe regardless of Henry VIII. The Reformation started in Germany with Martin Luther, who was a Catholic priest, when he nailed his 95 theses on the door of the church in Wittenberg in 1517.   Nothing to do with Henry VIII and his divorce.  Then there was John Knox in Scotland and John Calvin in Geneva who led the Reformation in those places.

Henry VIII also was convinced Rome as a bad influence in Britain.  So I believe he confiscated all Romanist monasteries.  Is that true?   Stop reading and believing all the Romanist propaganda of why the Reformation took place.  It also led to 100 years of wars in Europe and many lost their lives.  Rome did not give up its power over millions of people without a long, drawn out struggle.  It brought freedom which you enjoy today.  Without the Reformation, there would be no freedom now in Canada and many western countries.  There would probably be no parliaments or democracy.  The Jesuits tried to stop the Reformation but failed.  They even tried to blow up the British parliament. 

"Observed in the United Kingdom every year on November 5, Guy Fawkes Day—also called Bonfire Night or Fireworks Night—commemorates a failed assassination attempt from over 400 years ago. On November 5, 1605, Guy Fawkes and a group of radical English Catholics tried to assassinate King James I by blowing up Parliament's House of Lords. The plot went awry and all of the conspirators were executed. Soon after, Britons began to celebrate Fawkes' demise and the survival of their king by burning effigies, lighting bonfires and setting off fireworks—a tradition which has continued to this day."

Guy Fawkes Day: A Brief History | HISTORY

 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I use the Jerusalem Bible, thanks.. Your religion is based on Henry VIII getting chicks pregnant who aren't his wife.

You are grossly uninformed.  Therefore I will give you this link where you can read why the Reformation took place.  Your take on why the UK split and why the Reformation took place is so infantile, but I know many Catholics are told this.  Their dishonesty and inability to tell the truth is just further proof of the corruption that comes out of the Romanist system.

"The Reformation in Europe was caused by several factors1234. These include demands for reform by scholars like Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Huldrych Zwingli, the invention of the printing press, the desire of many people to read the Bible in their own language, and the belief that forgiveness comes only from God. The emergence of Protestantism and the establishment of many Protestant churches, groups, and movements were some of the effects of the Reformation1. Reformers like Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Henry VIII challenged papal authority and questioned the Catholic Church's ability to define Christian practice5. The Reformation was also a moral revolt against the papal grossness and corruption3."

Reformation | Causes & Effects | Britannica

You are free to believe whatever you wish.

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43 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You are being ridiculous as usual.  There is no hope for a reasonable discussion with you.  Christians do not support or advocate punishing people for blasphemous speaking.  You know that as well but you are just being contrary as usual.

You say you’re not for banning speech, but then you say this:

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

So I would not favour laws to ban certain speech, but in certain cases I might be in favour of banning certain speech.


What cases would you consider banning speech?

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