Liberal Solutions

[Deluge]

So this is to counter a previous thread so that we can enjoy balance on these subjects. 

Below are the Lefts solutions to the following areas: 

1. Their Economic Plan: initiate full scale communism, then start a culture war. Antifa? BLM? You know what to do...
2. Healthcare Plan: initiate full scale communism. Oh, and start a culture war. 
3. Environmental Agenda: Permit more crippling of the economy in the name of climate hysterics - oh, and start a culture war 
4. Terrorism: Make every effort to transition to energy technologies that are nowhere near ready for use without the aid of fossil fuels and nuclear power. Oh, and start a culture war.
5. Reductions in American Manufacturing: Side with China - give them all the power; we need to be humbled. And start a culture war. 
6. Homelessness Plan: Assist in the expansion of homelessness; in fact invite people from other states to partake of the programs paid by tax payers. And for f*ck's sake, start a culture war. 

Edited June 5, 2023 by Deluge

[Michael Hardner]

Liberal and Communist are opposites.

Downvote...

[Rebound]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

So this is to counter a previous thread so that we can enjoy balance on these subjects. 

Below are the Lefts solutions to the following areas: 

1. Their Economic Plan: Non-existent. So instead, start a culture war. Antifa? BLM? You know what to do...
2. Healthcare Plan: initiate full scale communism. Oh, and start a culture war. 
3. Environmental Agenda: Permit more crippling of the economy in the name of climate hysterics - oh, and start a culture war 
4. Terrorism: Make every effort to transition to energy technologies that are nowhere near ready for use without the aid of fossil fuels and nuclear power. Oh, and start a culture war.
5. Reductions in American Manufacturing: Side with China - give them all the power; we need to be humbled. And start a culture war. 
6. Homelessness Plan: Assist in the expansion of homelessness; in fact invite people from other states to partake of the programs paid by tax payers. And for f*ck's sake, start a culture war. 

You could not be more wrong.

Barack Obama enacted a stimulus plan which turned around an economy which was spiraling into the worst depression and back collapse calamity since the Great Depression. Obama entered office with a collapsed economy and left with a booming economy. Biden has done the same, with record job growth, after Trump's four years of net job losses.  

Healthcare Plan: We have Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid. None of these are communist, as doctors remain private employees of largely private hospitals. The only Federal hospitals are within the military and VA systems, so... no communism there. I think you don't actually know what communism is, suggest you read Marx-Engels so that you know what you're talking about.

Energy: Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas lead the nation in installed kW of wind-generated electricity. Wind provides over 50% of the electricity of Iowa and over 30% of Texas. It works!  Flip a lightbulb... it works!  Electric cars are the future and the Democratic Party has been doing the heavy lifting of creating the subsidies necessary to invigorate this industry and install the charging infrastructure, while Republicans are busy trying to (seriously!!!) shut down functioning, working, productive wind farms in Texas, at the behest of the oil companies.

 

American Manufacturing: Biden passed the CHIP Act, which is brining semiconductor manufacturing back to America. Zing!  Trump.... opened no American factories. Zero. Zip.  

Homelessness: There is one and only one solution to homelessness: Homes. Democrats have spearheaded low cost, affordable housing programs across the nation. Trump brought Ben Carson in to run HUD; Carson had zero experience in the field and rolled back as many housing efforts as he could. Your other claims are nonsense. 

 

Democrats Get It Done!

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Liberal and Communist are opposites.

Downvote...

Ideally they are opposites, but not anymore.

[CdnFox]

Well it's true the dems to love themselves a good culture war.  It's been that way for a few hundred years now.

Once you divide people it's easy to promote fear and anger.  And fear and anger is how snake oil peddlers sell their goods.

 

[herbie]

Gee Deluge spoken just like someone who lives in a country that doesn't even have a liberal party.

I can't imagine living a life of projecting your own imagined fears onto something that's not even there. It's the bogeyman, Marge! The bogeyman!

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, herbie said:

Gee Deluge spoken just like someone who lives in a country that doesn't even have a liberal party.

don't have to have a liberal party to have liberals.

And the left pretty much is communist these days.  Right tovarish?

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Liberal and Communist are opposites.

Downvote...

https://www.britannica.com/topic/neoconservatism

Hair trigger voting is unwise...

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

You could not be more wrong.

Barack Obama enacted a stimulus plan which turned around an economy which was spiraling into the worst depression and back collapse calamity since the Great Depression. Obama entered office with a collapsed economy and left with a booming economy. Biden has done the same, with record job growth, after Trump's four years of net job losses.  

There's literally no talking to someone as disingenuous as you are.

You know that's a complete mischaracterization of everything that happened. Total zero.  

[Michael Hardner]

How about some cites?

[reason10]

19 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Liberal and Communist are opposites.

Downvote...

 Nope. They are IDENTICAL, same as liberal and Nazi.

Same ideology. Same tactics.

Before the Port Huron Statement (of the early Sixties) LIBERAL used to mean laissez faire free market capitalism. There is NOTHING free market about the goose stepping Marxist liberals of today.

[reason10]

19 hours ago, Rebound said:

You could not be more wrong.

Barack Obama enacted a stimulus plan which turned around an economy which was spiraling into the worst depression and back collapse calamity since the Great Depression. Obama entered office with a collapsed economy and left with a booming economy. Biden has done the same, with record job growth, after Trump's four years of net job losses.  

Healthcare Plan: We have Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid. None of these are communist, as doctors remain private employees of largely private hospitals. The only Federal hospitals are within the military and VA systems, so... no communism there. I think you don't actually know what communism is, suggest you read Marx-Engels so that you know what you're talking about.

Energy: Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas lead the nation in installed kW of wind-generated electricity. Wind provides over 50% of the electricity of Iowa and over 30% of Texas. It works!  Flip a lightbulb... it works!  Electric cars are the future and the Democratic Party has been doing the heavy lifting of creating the subsidies necessary to invigorate this industry and install the charging infrastructure, while Republicans are busy trying to (seriously!!!) shut down functioning, working, productive wind farms in Texas, at the behest of the oil companies.

 

American Manufacturing: Biden passed the CHIP Act, which is brining semiconductor manufacturing back to America. Zing!  Trump.... opened no American factories. Zero. Zip.  

Homelessness: There is one and only one solution to homelessness: Homes. Democrats have spearheaded low cost, affordable housing programs across the nation. Trump brought Ben Carson in to run HUD; Carson had zero experience in the field and rolled back as many housing efforts as he could. Your other claims are nonsense. 

 

Democrats Get It Done!

Barak's stimulus plan took a mild recession and extended it for a summer and turned it into a full blown DEPRESSION. It gave us the WORST job participation numbers of all time. People just GAVE UP looking for work. And his tax increases sent millions of jobs to the far east.

Democrats DEFINITELY get it done, same way their predecessors did.

[Deluge]

On 6/5/2023 at 9:21 AM, Rebound said:

You could not be more wrong.

Barack Obama enacted a stimulus plan which turned around an economy which was spiraling into the worst depression and back collapse calamity since the Great Depression. Obama entered office with a collapsed economy and left with a booming economy. Biden has done the same, with record job growth, after Trump's four years of net job losses.  

Healthcare Plan: We have Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid. None of these are communist, as doctors remain private employees of largely private hospitals. The only Federal hospitals are within the military and VA systems, so... no communism there. I think you don't actually know what communism is, suggest you read Marx-Engels so that you know what you're talking about.

Energy: Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas lead the nation in installed kW of wind-generated electricity. Wind provides over 50% of the electricity of Iowa and over 30% of Texas. It works!  Flip a lightbulb... it works!  Electric cars are the future and the Democratic Party has been doing the heavy lifting of creating the subsidies necessary to invigorate this industry and install the charging infrastructure, while Republicans are busy trying to (seriously!!!) shut down functioning, working, productive wind farms in Texas, at the behest of the oil companies.

 

American Manufacturing: Biden passed the CHIP Act, which is brining semiconductor manufacturing back to America. Zing!  Trump.... opened no American factories. Zero. Zip.  

Homelessness: There is one and only one solution to homelessness: Homes. Democrats have spearheaded low cost, affordable housing programs across the nation. Trump brought Ben Carson in to run HUD; Carson had zero experience in the field and rolled back as many housing efforts as he could. Your other claims are nonsense. 

 

Democrats Get It Done!

Democrats get their own shit done. 

Barack Obama pushed Obamacare and mandates on the American public and American businesses. Like a good dictator, Obama pushed through legislation and increases in spending without congressional authority; he bailed out corrupt, unproductive and reckless wall street firms and banks that were his biggest campaign supporters. Obama is also guilty of sequestration, spreading poverty and raising the debt, illegal immigration, being soft on crime, warring with police, attacks on Christian religious freedom and so on. 

Healthcare Plan: Obamacare is dog shit and it needs to be replaced. 

Energy: wind-generated electricity isn't worth shit when the wind stops blowing. Ask those residents how they feel about your stupid windmills when it gets hot and windless outside. 

American Manufacturing: the CHIP act will be dog shit. Biden wants all the power to go to China.

Read about Trump's accomplishments below: 

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-fact-president-trump-has-boosted-us-manufacturing

Homelessness: It also includes joblessness, drug addiction and crime. Are you trying to tell me that homes are the one, and only solution to those problems as well? 

Look, I get that you think building homes magically solves everything, but it doesn't. If you build a home for some homeless guy, how in the hell do you expect him to keep it? Especially if he's been out of work for months or even years and strung out on drugs? lol

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Democrats get their own shit done. 

Barack Obama pushed Obamacare and mandates on the American public and American businesses. Like a good dictator, Obama pushed through legislation and increases in spending without congressional authority; he bailed out corrupt, unproductive and reckless wall street firms and banks that were his biggest campaign supporters. Obama is also guilty of sequestration, spreading poverty and raising the debt, illegal immigration, being soft on crime, warring with police, attacks on Christian religious freedom and so on. 

Healthcare Plan: Obamacare is dog shit and it needs to be replaced. 

Energy: wind-generated electricity isn't worth shit when the wind stops blowing. Ask those residents how they feel about your stupid windmills when it gets hot and windless outside. 

American Manufacturing: the CHIP act will be dog shit. Biden wants all the power to go to China.

Read about Trump's accomplishments below: 

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-fact-president-trump-has-boosted-us-manufacturing

Homelessness: It also includes joblessness, drug addiction and crime. Are you trying to tell me that homes are the one, and only solution to those problems as well? 

Look, I get that you think building homes magically solves everything, but it doesn't. If you build a home for some homeless guy, how in the hell do you expect him to keep it? Especially if he's been out of work for months or even years and strung out on drugs? lol

So full of crap.

Trump said the same stupid thing: "We need to replace ObamaCare". Ok, genius!  Replace it with WHAT? You don't know!  Trump ran for President and he said he had a secret healthcare plan, and he didn't. So you're just talk talk talk lie lie lie. You're just parroting the nonsense you heard from someone else.

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

So full of crap.

Trump said the same stupid thing: "We need to replace ObamaCare". Ok, genius!  Replace it with WHAT? You don't know!  Trump ran for President and he said he had a secret healthcare plan, and he didn't. So you're just talk talk talk lie lie lie. You're just parroting the nonsense you heard from someone else.

Don't blame me for your ineptness. Leftism is the worst thing to ever happen to the free world. 

Trump will have time to fix Obamascare when he retakes his rightful place as President.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Deluge

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Don't blame me for your ineptness. Democrats are the worst thing to ever happen to the free world. 

Trump will have time to fix Obamascare when he takes his rightful place as President.

and here you are again, pretending to be smart when you cannot answer the question: What plan is the alternative to ObamaCare?

 

You aren't going to get a prize for stupldly not answering this simple question. You said ObamaCare is bad but you won't say what should replace it. Obviously, you're just parroting something you heard, which you don't understand.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Rebound

[Deluge]

18 minutes ago, Rebound said:

and here you are again, pretending to be smart when you cannot answer the question: What plan is the alternative to ObamaCare?

 

You aren't going to get a prize for stupldly not answering this simple question. You said ObamaCare is bad but you won't say what should replace it. Obviously, you're just parroting something you heard, which you don't understand.

Right below, you nut. lol

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/healthcare/

Edited June 6, 2023 by Deluge

[Michael Hardner]

34 minutes ago, Rebound said:

So full of crap.

Trump said the same stupid thing: "We need to replace ObamaCare". Ok, genius!  Replace it with WHAT? You don't know!  Trump ran for President and he said he had a secret healthcare plan, and he didn't. So you're just talk talk talk lie lie lie. You're just parroting the nonsense you heard from someone else.

Watch the dates in the top right corner as you watch this bumbling parrot squawk.
 

And the excuse-monkey take also:

"Nobody knew that Healthcare could be so complicated...'
 

 

[Deluge]

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Watch the dates in the top right corner as you watch this bumbling parrot squawk.
 

And the excuse-monkey take also:

"Nobody knew that Healthcare could be so complicated...'
 

 

Speaking of bumbling parrot-squawking and monkey takes: 

Babbling Bozo:

His encounter with Casper the Friendly Ghost: 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

23 hours ago, herbie said:

Gee Deluge spoken just like someone who lives in a country that doesn't even have a liberal party.

I can't imagine living a life of projecting your own imagined fears onto something that's not even there. It's the bogeyman, Marge! The bogeyman!

herbie is a communist. 

[reason10]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

So full of crap.

Trump said the same stupid thing: "We need to replace ObamaCare". Ok, genius!  Replace it with WHAT? You don't know!  Trump ran for President and he said he had a secret healthcare plan, and he didn't. So you're just talk talk talk lie lie lie. You're just parroting the nonsense you heard from someone else.

I don't have to lie, retard. I'm right and you're wrong.

The only thing that replaces OBAMACARE is the free market. President Trump accomplished that, partly.

You Nazis seem to think the answer to EVERYTHING is a government program. And you wonder why everyone says you goose steppers are so stupid.

32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Watch the dates in the top right corner as you watch this bumbling parrot squawk.
 

And the excuse-monkey take also:

"Nobody knew that Healthcare could be so complicated...'
 

 

The only thing that can replace Obamacare is the free market. Which means Obamacare has to be overturned before it does any more damage. There are no GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS that are going to make health care any less expensive than it already is. Obamacare just made insurance that much more expensive.

[herbie]

8 hours ago, reason10 said:

Nope. They are IDENTICAL, same as liberal and Nazi.

Same ideology. Same tactics.

Duh... yo mama told you that, no need to lurn nuthin else.

[reason10]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

Duh... yo mama told you that, no need to lurn nuthin else.

Yo mama apparently had not problem with you dropping out of the second grade,so you have zero room to talk.

You people are the SAME as  the earlier Nazis.

 

You have LOST this argument, Adolf.

Edited June 6, 2023 by reason10

[BeaverFever]

Another junk thread ?

 

Seems to be quite the uptick in these layers, all attributable to the same individuals 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Another junk thread ?

 

Seems to be quite the uptick in these layers, all attributable to the same individuals 

Leftism is worse than cancer.