Liberals attack parliamentary budget officer for telling truth (the real costs of the Climate Action Plan)

[CdnFox]

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-liberals-attack-parliamentary-budget-officer-for-telling-truth

Every time Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux points out there are costs to Canadians because of the Trudeau government’s climate action plan, Federal Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault, among other Liberals, blows a gasket.

Giroux’s main conclusion is that the CFR is regressive because the costs faced by lower-income families represent a larger percentage of their disposable income than higher-income households.

That’s what Guilbeault’s ministry said last year in its analysis of the CFR:

“Low-income households may be disproportionately affected by the Regulations as they may incur higher transportation costs relative to their income. Moreover, low-income households tend to have a lower ability to absorb higher fuel costs compared to high-income households.”

Guilbeault criticized Giroux for failing “to recognize the cost of climate change to Canadians, like extreme weather.”

Except there won’t be savings to Canadians from milder weather by lowering Canada’s emissions —and certainly not by 2030 — because, as Giroux noted, “Canada’s own emissions are not large enough to materially impact climate change and therefore their reduction would not materially affect the Canadian economy … Canada’s primary means of limiting the economic costs of climate change are through participation in a globally coordinated emissions reduction regime.”

 

To recap:

This is hard on the poor.

This will lower our GDP and economy

There will be no 'climate benefit because we don't pollute enough to make a difference.

Why the HELL are we doing this?

[Legato]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-liberals-attack-parliamentary-budget-officer-for-telling-truth

Every time Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux points out there are costs to Canadians because of the Trudeau government’s climate action plan, Federal Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault, among other Liberals, blows a gasket.

Giroux’s main conclusion is that the CFR is regressive because the costs faced by lower-income families represent a larger percentage of their disposable income than higher-income households.

That’s what Guilbeault’s ministry said last year in its analysis of the CFR:

“Low-income households may be disproportionately affected by the Regulations as they may incur higher transportation costs relative to their income. Moreover, low-income households tend to have a lower ability to absorb higher fuel costs compared to high-income households.”

Guilbeault criticized Giroux for failing “to recognize the cost of climate change to Canadians, like extreme weather.”

Except there won’t be savings to Canadians from milder weather by lowering Canada’s emissions —and certainly not by 2030 — because, as Giroux noted, “Canada’s own emissions are not large enough to materially impact climate change and therefore their reduction would not materially affect the Canadian economy … Canada’s primary means of limiting the economic costs of climate change are through participation in a globally coordinated emissions reduction regime.”

 

To recap:

This is hard on the poor.

This will lower our GDP and economy

There will be no 'climate benefit because we don't pollute enough to make a difference.

Why the HELL are we doing this?

Gerald Butts advised Trudeau that this is the most effective way to appeal to those simple minds that think a tax can change the weather. Trudeau's arrogance does not allow him to give a rats ass about the economic consequences, so long as he can stay in power.

[eyeball]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why the HELL are we doing this?

Because it's the appropriate thing to do. Yes, the Liberals are fairly useless at taking action but at the end of the day action is still the correct course to take.

Sooner or later our government will follow Canadians, most of whom want to see action.

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Because it's the appropriate thing to do.

Why? It's ineffective, we know that, and yet its costing us a fortune and the most vunerable are paying the biggest price. How is this the right thing to do?

43 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes, the Liberals are fairly useless at taking action but at the end of the day action is still the correct course to take.

In god's name why?

43 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sooner or later our government will follow Canadians, most of whom want to see action.

Here's what's going to happen. Eventually people will get sick of fake action and there will be blow back on this. And you can bet when that happens then environmental policy will be open season.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

1. Why? It's ineffective, we know that, and yet its costing us a fortune and the most vunerable are paying the biggest price. How is this the right thing to do?

2. In god's name why?

3. Here's what's going to happen. Eventually people will get sick of fake action and there will be blow back on this. And you can bet when that happens then environmental policy will be open season.

1 & 2. The path to enlightenment is always painful.

3. People will be sick and impoverished because the planet's ecosystems have been impacted to the point they can't adapt to the rate at which we're changing the climate while also meeting the demands we put on them. 

We need to act while we can because the more impoverished we become the less we'll be able to afford to act if at all.

The topic of the thread suggests we're closing in on that point - the cost of food probably does too.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Because it's the appropriate thing to do. Yes, the Liberals are fairly useless at taking action but at the end of the day action is still the correct course to take.

Sooner or later our government will follow Canadians, most of whom want to see action.

Most want to see action until they see the cost, then it is a much different story.... if they wanted change , they would all of voted green....which is why Liberals are still in power, they talk a good game , but on the action front they are just playing the slow game...enough to fool most Canadians...

[CdnFox]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

1 & 2. The path to enlightenment is always painful.

Are you saying you're finding it enlightening not to have any logical reason for your positions there?    I don't really find it enlightening - i was pretty sure already you didn't have any logical reason for it.

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

3. People will be sick and impoverished because the planet's ecosystems have been impacted to the point they can't adapt to the rate at which we're changing the climate while also meeting the demands we put on them. 

We need to act while we can because the more impoverished we become the less we'll be able to afford to act if at all.

People will continue to get sick and be impoverished because the liberals and you chose to support something that's not working and yet sucked up the available cash.

Then there will be a backlash. ANd people won't care about it any more. 

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

The topic of the thread suggests we're closing in on that point - the cost of food probably does too.

No, the cost of food is more about carbon taxes. Which is rather the point.