August1991 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 I recently read a message asking how the Belgian military worked - what language they used. It was a nightmare of this division in French but that division in Nederlander - but above a certain grade, in some divisions, only some officers spoke one language. ==== Canada has the only military that functions in two languages. Every other member of NATO has a military that functions in one single language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDog Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 French belongs in France. They lost (as they always seem to) on The Plains of Abraham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 40 minutes ago, RedDog said: French belongs in France. They lost (as they always seem to) on The Plains of Abraham. RedDog, Canada is a country of two languages. ===== If NATO is to exist, it must change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 47 minutes ago, RedDog said: French belongs in France. They lost (as they always seem to) on The Plains of Abraham. We only talk Canadian here, Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 7 minutes ago, Moonbox said: We only talk Canadian here, Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk. Clueless. ==== Our Canadian military is like Napoleon or Prussian. Different young guys get along. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 Young men fight wars. If you want to predict the next World War, look at the cohort of young men born 20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 To return to my OP, our Canadian military is remarkable. It works in two languages. No other NATO member does this - except Belgium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 I want to add this point - since it's in the news about passport images. Harper was wrong to return to the RCAF etc terminology. Trudeau Snr was correct when he created the Canadian Forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) 13 hours ago, August1991 said: I recently read a message asking how the Belgian military worked - what language they used. It was a nightmare of this division in French but that division in Nederlander - but above a certain grade, in some divisions, only some officers spoke one language. ==== Canada has the only military that functions in two languages. Canada's military barely functions at all. But I suppose they can say "We aren't capable of doing that" in two languages. 3 hours ago, August1991 said: I want to add this point - since it's in the news about passport images. Harper was wrong to return to the RCAF etc terminology. Trudeau Snr was correct when he created the Canadian Forces. In order to appease Quebec Francophones, who were not even slightly appeased, and who would vote to leave Canada in a heartbeat if they thought there wouldn't be economic consequences. But I'm unsurprised you believe that the cultural genocide of English Canadians was and is a good idea. 8 hours ago, August1991 said: To return to my OP, our Canadian military is remarkable. It works in two languages. It does not work in either language. But I get that all you care about is that they're bilingual. Edited May 22 by I am Groot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 10 minutes ago, I am Groot said: the cultural genocide of English Canadians 🙄 Geez exaggerate much? Gimme a break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) Having Francophone military units has its advantages when operating in French speaking countries or with French speaking allies. We’ve had francophone units defending canada in one form or another since 1759. They served with honour and valour in resisting 2 American invasion attempts prior to confederation, in both world wars, and many operations and conflicts since. Sure a bilingual military probably has it’s challenges as does anything in life but of the CAF’s many current problems it probably doesn’t make the top 5. Edited May 22 by BeaverFever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: 🙄 Geez exaggerate much? Gimme a break Hey, I'm using the description Trudeau has embraced. If you think it's an exaggeration take it up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 Switzerland has four official languages and conscription. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 40 minutes ago, Aristides said: Switzerland has four official languages and conscription. the Légion étrangère speaks French plus every other language in the world they don't even have to recruit, so many want to join their ranks, they turn 80% of candidates away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) 6 hours ago, August1991 said: I want to add this point - since it's in the news about passport images. Harper was wrong to return to the RCAF etc terminology. Trudeau Snr was correct when he created the Canadian Forces. you'll have to rid the army of all the British historical lineage as the British regiments indoctrinate their recruits into their British traditions so regiments like the Governor General's Foot Guards, The Black Watch ( Royal Highland Regiment ) of Canada the Queen's Own Rifles of Canada these will have to be sanitized of their British origins replaced with generic titles, A Company, 2nd Battalion, 33rd Brigade Group full Americanization of the army to adhere to the full Americanization of Canada itself Vimy Ridge of course, will have to be erased entirely therein at that victory was won by the British Expeditionary Force at Pas de Calais nothing to do with the Post National State Edited May 22 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 9 hours ago, I am Groot said: Hey, I'm using the description Trudeau has embraced. If you think it's an exaggeration take it up with him. Its an exaggeration to use it for Anglos, bub. Indigenous peoples definitely DID suffer cultural and ACTUAL genocide. You don’t get to steal that term for whatever minor inconvenience or annoyance that doesn’t affect you but you happen to become aware of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dougie93 said: the only distinct elements in the Canadian military are the Royal Canadian Infantry Corps regiments RCR, PPCLI, R22eR Guards, Rifle, Highland, Lowland & County regiments of the Militia And Grenadiers and Fusiliers? Edited May 23 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 On 5/21/2023 at 9:33 PM, August1991 said: I recently read a message asking how the Belgian military worked - what language they used. It was a nightmare of this division in French but that division in Nederlander - but above a certain grade, in some divisions, only some officers spoke one language. ==== Canada has the only military that functions in two languages. Every other member of NATO has a military that functions in one single language. Not true at all, Canada's has a force that a small percentage can speak both official languages, That being said the official language of the CF is English...You may find that official communications within 5 Brigade, CFB Val Cartier may be in French, when operating among themselves .but once the other English Brigades combine English is the main official language spoken over all communication modes. Just another point NATO official operating language is English, when combined ops are being played out, most countries will translate all comms in and out going to send down to their smaller formations, but the main language being spoken is English. including Belgium. This practice has been ongoing for decades, the inter national language for all pilots and airports is English, both military and civilian.. Canada does not hold some special language abilities. It use to be that all english recruits had to pass french as a second language, but that program stopped as it was expensive, with little benefit. Now French/ English speaking officers and SNR NCO"S can apply to take English/ French courses, but they are not mandatory unless taking a command level course. I think you'll find in European Militaries do speak a wide variety of languages, English and French are the most common. you'll find the same thing in their civil population, that Average Europeans speak more languages than Canadians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 19 hours ago, August1991 said: To return to my OP, our Canadian military is remarkable. It works in two languages. No other NATO member does this - except Belgium. All NATO countries operate in English as well as their native language. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 14 hours ago, August1991 said: I want to add this point - since it's in the news about passport images. Harper was wrong to return to the RCAF etc terminology. Trudeau Snr was correct when he created the Canadian Forces. I doubt Snr had much of a hand in it other than approving it all, that was all Paul Hellyer brain child but it was done to save money it had nothing to do with making it better, or more efficient, today you would be hard pressed to find any thing left of that unification. In the end it was a waste of money and energy that could of been spent else where... the result was a massive reduction of troops as they left the military to pursue other careers... Unification of the Canadian Armed Forces | The Canadian Encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: And Grenadiers and Fusiliers? are there any non Guards Grenadier regiments left ? the only Fusiliers I can think of are in Quebec Quebec will of course keep its history only Anglo Canadian history gets erased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Its an exaggeration to use it for Anglos, bub. Why? A deliberate policy effort to separate English Canadians from their roots, traditions, history, and institutions fits with the description the Liberals use for cultural genocide. 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Indigenous peoples definitely DID suffer cultural and ACTUAL genocide. Yeeeaah, bullshit. 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You don’t get to steal that term for whatever minor inconvenience or annoyance that doesn’t affect you but you happen to become aware of. Try and stop me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: Yeeeaah, bullshit. Denying basic reality. Cool. 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: Try and stop me. It's one of the stupidest things you've ever said on this forum. If you're intent on making an ass out of yourself, please proceed. 🫡 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 I can bet you that at the time Canada fought in real wars it was one language. How would it fight now, in a real war is a big question mark. Time lapse confusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 8 hours ago, I am Groot said: Why? A deliberate policy effort to separate English Canadians from their roots, traditions, history, and institutions fits with the description the Liberals use for cultural genocide. No, there is no such policy. Call me when English Canadian children are forcibly removed from their homes and sent to boarding schools against their family’s will, where they’re beaten for speaking English, or sent to be raised in non-English families. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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