reason10 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Gee!. Capitalism PAYS for schools. https://www.foxnews.com/media/colorado-teachers-union-passes-resolution-declaring-capitalism-inherently-exploits-children-public-schools Colorado teachers union passes resolution declaring capitalism 'inherently exploits children, public schools' The Colorado Education Association [CEA] reportedly passed a resolution that declares that "capitalism inherently exploits children, public schools, land, labor, and resources." A final version of the resolution that was passed states that "CEA believes that capitalism requires exploitation of children, public schools, land, labor, and/or resources. Capitalism is in opposition to fully addressing systemic racism (the school to prison pipeline), climate change, patriarchy, (gender and LGBTQ disparities), education inequality, and income inequality. However, a screenshot captures an earlier draft of the resolution that included a call to replace capitalism with a "new equitable economic system." The screenshot of the original version of the resolutions reads "CEA believes that capitalism requires exploitation of children, public schools, land, labor, and/or resources and, therefore, the only way to fully address systemic racism (the school to prison pipeline), climate change, patriarchy (gender and LGBTQ disparities), education inequality, and income inequality is to dismantle capitalism and replace it with a new, equitable economic system." Some talking points, for the folks on the left who are unable to follow this article intelligently. 1. Exploitation of children? How about the CHILD SLAVERY in Communist China? Think those Nikes are made by American union manufacturers? How about the lithium for those EV batteries? Think the miners are members of the United Mine Workers? 2. Explain how Capitalism is responsible for the "Classroom To Prison" myth. Explain why this only happens to blacks. 3. Explain how Capitalism somehow caused the Climate Change fairy tale. The LARGEST CO2 emitters in the world come from COMMUNIST ANTI CAPITALIST CHINA. 4. Explain how Capitalism created "education inequality." While we're at it, EXPLAIN EDUCATION INEQUALITY. Why do some kids make straight A's and some kids flunk? How is CAPITALISM to blame. Truthfully, this idi0tic idea began in 1848. Here's the original text. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLefty Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Here we have the capitalism has no flaws crew as the Big red white n blue dildo is being inserted into their keisters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Well there's this: Capitalism pays for schools but is it enough? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna82583 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 hours ago, NYLefty said: Here we have the capitalism has no flaws crew as the Big red white n blue dildo is being inserted into their keisters No time to reply, I have to feed my son who just got off graveyard shift at the coal mine before the school bus comes. My first job doesn't start for another hour. Sally's making cookies in her EasyBake oven for the Grade Three Fundraiser. Wifey's almost done mopping the Boardroom now they've moved the factory to Mexico... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 Based. Quote Unsere Stadt, merk euch das, für euch ist kein Platz da. Alerta, Alerta, Antifascista! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 16 hours ago, NYLefty said: Here we have the capitalism has no flaws Capitalism has plenty of flaws. However, in a democracy has proven to be a better system than full on government control in a socialist one. Is the growing gap between rich and poor a capitalism issue, or a human nature issue? The latter, being the reason why big government has shown to be flawed. Expecting people to all of a sudden want to help each other, vs their instinctive traits pushing them to fend for themselves, is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLefty Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Capitalism has plenty of flaws. However, in a democracy has proven to be a better system than full on government control in a socialist one. Is the growing gap between rich and poor a capitalism issue, or a human nature issue? The latter, being the reason why big government has shown to be flawed. Expecting people to all of a sudden want to help each other, vs their instinctive traits pushing them to fend for themselves, is insane. Unfortunately just like gun death/violence stats compared to European countries it's glaringly clear that our unfettered capitalist system is faltering. A system like ours is nothing new and historically has failed every single time. When the rich control who you get to vote for and supply you with the choices we have you'll eventually be burned. Your turn just hasn't come yet. I take my lessons on sociology from countries that have had thousands of years of governing and have already fallen off the edge to come back with strong sustainable systems like in European countries, Scandinavia, Germany, France etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, NYLefty said: When the rich control who you get to vote for So you want to turn that power over to your government and trust they will use it responsibly? Have you ever been to a government controlled country where oligarchy runs rampant. This is human nature. We are a survivalist species. We will protect our own first. You make illusions for yourself if you think leveling things won't result to the same outcome of a select few still calling the shots. What. You think the mega rich will just give their money away? I have rich relatives in Haiti. You would be descending into this. Where they would be willing to protect what is theirs, tooth and nail. Meaning just to describe one of my aunts, where you acquire a heavily armed private army. Where equality is just illusion. One needs to understand where capitalism fails. Just like where socialism fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLefty Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: So you want to turn that power over to your government and trust they will use it responsibly? Have you ever been to a government controlled country where oligarchy runs rampant. This is human nature. We are a survivalist species. We will protect our own first. You make illusions for yourself if you think leveling things won't result to the same outcome of a select few still calling the shots. What. You think the mega rich will just give their money away? I have rich relatives in Haiti. You would be descending into this. Where they would be willing to protect what is theirs, tooth and nail. Meaning just to describe one of my aunts, where you acquire a heavily armed private army. Where equality is just illusion. One needs to understand where capitalism fails. Just like where socialism fails. Long winded rubbish coming from someone who's obviously clueless. Good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Is the growing gap between rich and poor a capitalism issue, or a human nature issue? It's an attribute of our current economic landscape, more capitalist than not. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 10:48 AM, Contrarian said: Why did some math teachers hate capitalism? Because they always wanted to divide and conquer! ? Colorado strikes. <--- What does divide and conquer have to do with capitalism? Divide and conquer is a war strategy. Capitalism is AN Economics system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 11:45 AM, NYLefty said: Here we have the capitalism has no flaws crew as the Big red white n blue dildo is being inserted into their keisters Here we have a poorly educated blue stater who still believes in unicorns and fairy queens. I'll put this in numbered points, so your handler can find it easier to explain this to you. 1. ALL economics systems are models of human behavior. That makes them models of NATURE. 2. In NATURE, some do better than others but soon all creatures die. So the concept of winners and losers really only applies to sports and ignorant WOKE ideology. 3. Capitalism as a system has the greatest number of winners and the fewest number of losers. Capitalism provides for a middle class. Socialism has NO middle class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Capitalism has plenty of flaws. However, in a democracy has proven to be a better system than full on government control in a socialist one. Is the growing gap between rich and poor a capitalism issue, or a human nature issue? The latter, being the reason why big government has shown to be flawed. Expecting people to all of a sudden want to help each other, vs their instinctive traits pushing them to fend for themselves, is insane. There has always been a growing gap between achievers and non achievers. Capitalism did two things: 1. SHORTENED that gap, and 2. Made provisions for the non achievers to become achievers. In Socialism, there are two classes: 1. Government RICH. 2. Everybody else equally POOR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Contrarian said: My joke was actually aimed at a group of math teachers who criticized capitalism. They may use the phrase "divide and conquer" to describe what they saw as the exploitative nature of capitalism, when they do the same in the classroom, some, the ideological ones. However, I always found their criticism to be misplaced. In reality, capitalism is an economic system that allows individuals to pursue their own interests and achieve success through competition, not division. So while the joke may have been lighthearted, it actually carries a deeper message about the importance of understanding the principles of capitalism. I got that bit about "divide." Kinda hard to link math with anti-capitalism, since math is supposed to be hard logic. What people need to understand about Capitalism is that it is a very NATURAL way for humans to interact with each other to mutual benefit. It is actually a force of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It's an attribute of our current economic landscape, more capitalist than not. Then why do SOCIALIST states have the WIDEST gap? Rich government POOR everybody else? Splain that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, NYLefty said: Long winded rubbish coming from someone who's obviously clueless. Good day. Stupid rubbish from someone too ignorant to learn to read. Crawl back under your rock. Adults are communicating here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 20 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Well there's this: Capitalism pays for schools but is it enough? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna82583 (To save the posters from having to deal with NBC's left wing biased nonsense, I'll summarize this article. It is about ten year olds working at a Louisville Kentucky McDonalds, which is ILLEGAL.) What does the article have to do with the subject of the thread? For that matter, what does it have to do with Capitalism paying for schools? Capitalism pays for EVERYTHING, and generally the free market makes everything cost less. Without Capitalism, there are no jobs, which means no money to either (a) pay tuition at a private school, or (b) pay taxes to fund a public school. To answer your question about whether or not "it is enough," it is a fact that today MORE money is being spent per student today than at any other time in history. When I started substitute teaching, the students learned about computers by going to large computer labs, and working solely on desktops, with those huge square monitors. Today, each classroom has enough chromebooks for EVERY student of EVERY grade, and those chromebooks are faster and more state of the art than those desktops of 1999. For that matter, EVERY student (and this is at least grade two to senior) has a cell phone with more computing power than those desktops of 1999. Stuff like that. More money is being spent and technology makes better use of that money. It doesn't solve ALL the problems of public education. It doesn't come anywhere CLOSE to that. Capitalism cannot solve all the problems of humanity. But it solves more than any other system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, NYLefty said: obviously clueless What am I clueless about? Easy to call someone clueless. Harder to pin point precisely what makes that claim accurate. Am sure your concerns are legitimate, so as such I assume you will bring something to the table vs dismissal. Dismissal usually happens when you have nothing better to bring to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, reason10 said: In Socialism, there are two classes: 1. Government RICH. 2. Everybody else equally POOR. Exactly. And this harbors levels of corruption that are harder to counter. I would move, the day my vision and determination don't get me paid a certain level. If am ingenious enough to create a business model that employs 50 people, why is it wrong that I get a good chunk of the profit, and hire staff at competitive wages for their roles? Many black and, minorities who are entrepreneurs. My wife is a minority and a savvy businesswoman. Why should she make the same as some bum slacker who just wants to sit all day and do nothing. I don't understand how equality of outcome is fair say if my output is tenfold. Most go to college to take garbage courses. If I was smart enough to look at the median age in careers and see an opportunity and study for it, knowing jobs would be abundant, how am I to be penalized for that vision. Heck, I wish most people did this. Far more practical than paying 60k for a Philosophy degree to flip burgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted May 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 If am ingenious enough to create a business model that employs 50 people, why is it wrong that I get a good chunk of the profit, and hire staff at competitive wages for their roles? It's not wrong and you should. They don't have jobs without you. Many black and, minorities who are entrepreneurs. My wife is a minority and a savvy businesswoman. Why should she make the same as some bum slacker who just wants to sit all day and do nothing. Apparently that's the message of Colorado's public schools. I don't understand how equality of outcome is fair say if my output is tenfold. It isn't. Most go to college to take garbage courses. If I was smart enough to look at the median age in careers and see an opportunity and study for it, knowing jobs would be abundant, how am I to be penalized for that vision. That is the vision of the left. YOU are responsible for other people's bad decisions, according to the left. Heck, I wish most people did this. Far more practical than paying 60k for a Philosophy degree to flip burgers. Heck, I wish the damned government wouldn't demand people like you PAY that student loan, for those !diots with garbage degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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