Kiraly Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 The establishment and their media allies will try to censor or discredit him. Independent media, on the other hand, will and is giving him a platform. Different vibe with this candidate. Agree or disagree with him, but the man appears to be honest and a man of integrity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kiraly said: The establishment and their media allies will try to censor or discredit him. Independent media, on the other hand, will and is giving him a platform. Different vibe with this candidate. Agree or disagree with him, but the man appears to be honest and a man of integrity. "Honest politician" is an oxymoron. With left wing politicians it's more of the mor*n part probably because of the oxygen deficiency part.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Mako said: You want to censor everyone but corrupt establishment warmongers? Hardner writes off a candidate based on one policy perspective that is promoted by the corporate establishment. He doesn’t support an open democratic debate that includes a candidate with 20% support and rising. It’s anti-democratic and anti-free speech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Contrarian said: How can he have 20 %? The Bernie flock is not listening to Bernie and will vote for him now? Because obviously, the establishment voters will stay the same with Biden. And as I said before, old man Bernie told his voters he is behind Biden 100 %. Where does he get this 20 % ?! That stat is well known. It’s 19% but you get the point. Just because Bernie is selling out to Biden doesn’t mean all his former supporters will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiraly Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: That stat is well known. It’s 19% but you get the point. Just because Bernie is selling out to Biden doesn’t mean all his former supporters will. I feel Sanders will continue to lose support now that he has hitched his cart to the establishment candidate, while alternatives exist that champion the causes Sanders once campaigned on. The Jimmy Dores of the Democratic Party who once supported Sanders will support challengers to Biden. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 If the leader of one of the two major political parties can’t defend his positions against other candidates, he does not deserve to lead the party. The fact that the party would risk handing the leadership to someone without the intellectual prowess to handle a debate is beyond troubling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 If he doesn’t get the Dem nomination, Trump should pick him for VP. RFK is that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, sharkman said: If he doesn’t get the Dem nomination, Trump should pick him for VP. RFK is that good. That’s actually very interesting and a real break from the Dem/GOP fake representation 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: That’s actually very interesting and a real break from the Dem/GOP fake representation The establishment would suffer a 6.5 on the richter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted May 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) The economy is faltering. As the Ukraine war drags on it will become less popular. The corrupt bloated corporations are widely despised, even by conservatives. The authoritarian transgender activists so beloved by the corporate media are generally perceived as crazy. Many think the establishment is crooked and useless. So I think the outsiders will do well. Edited May 6, 2023 by Mako 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiraly Posted May 7, 2023 Report Share Posted May 7, 2023 22 hours ago, sharkman said: If he doesn’t get the Dem nomination, Trump should pick him for VP. RFK is that good. RFK Jr. has been burned by Trump once already so I doubt he would accept that position. He might consider an AG nomination. That said, if he isn't the nominee for the Democratic nomination, he will run as an independent. There is a political vacuum in the U.S. and RFK Jr. aims to fill it. Another impressive discussion with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. All-In Podcast, May 5, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiraly Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 RFK Jr. polling @ 25% in the latest Rusmussen poll is now hinting at a third party run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 12:14 PM, Kiraly said: RFK Jr. polling @ 25% in the latest Rusmussen poll is now hinting at a third party run. Will do nothing but ensure Trump wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMadArtist Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/44845696-kennedy?store_id=1690 Edited November 2, 2023 by theMadArtist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Sorry to be a killjoy. I know some ghouls are really enjoying all the bloodshed in Ukraine. But RFK is right. It’s time for a negotiated peace. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/zelensky-war-time-magazine/ Edited November 3, 2023 by Mako Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 18 hours ago, Mako said: Sorry to be a killjoy. I know some ghouls are really enjoying all the bloodshed in Ukraine. But RFK is right. It’s time for a negotiated peace. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/zelensky-war-time-magazine/ Show us any solid evidence that Putin is willing to negotiate anything besides total surrender by Ukraine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, robosmith said: Show us any solid evidence that Putin is willing to negotiate anything besides total surrender by Ukraine. That's exactly what they're talking about - making the conquest of territory legal again. On 9/24/2023 at 2:05 AM, robosmith said: Will do nothing but ensure Trump wins. Seems like RFK is impacting Trump more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Show us any solid evidence that Putin is willing to negotiate anything besides total surrender by Ukraine. By “total surrender” do you mean Russia conquering Ukraine? The Russians wants Ukraine to stay out of NATO. Ukraine and Russia can argue for the rest of eternity about the exact borders in Donbas. Both sides can live with this arrangement. https://theconversation.com/why-ukraine-and-nato-shouldnt-rush-to-dismiss-vladimir-putins-latest-peace-terms-178723 Now you might believe Putin will always want MORE, but look at the trouble Putin has had making small gains in SE Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Mako said: By “total surrender” do you mean Russia conquering Ukraine? The Russians wants Ukraine to stay out of NATO. Ukraine and Russia can argue for the rest of eternity about the exact borders in Donbas. He wants much more than that. He at least wants the exclusive trade relationship he got Yanukovych to agree to. 5 hours ago, Mako said: Both sides can live with this arrangement. https://theconversation.com/why-ukraine-and-nato-shouldnt-rush-to-dismiss-vladimir-putins-latest-peace-terms-178723 Now you might believe Putin will always want MORE, but look at the trouble Putin has had making small gains in SE Ukraine. Putin's offer is for Ukraine to remain under Russia's thumb. AKA, total dependence. AKA surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 14 hours ago, robosmith said: He wants much more than that. He at least wants the exclusive trade relationship he got Yanukovych to agree to. Putin's offer is for Ukraine to remain under Russia's thumb. AKA, total dependence. AKA surrender. Evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Mako said: Evidence? The FACT that the first campaign was an attempt to occupy Kyiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The FACT that the first campaign was an attempt to occupy Kyiv You mean when the Russians withdrew from northern Ukraine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiraly Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 Peace now! https://compactmag.com/article/a-bitter-vindication-for-ukraine-doves https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/11/12/david_sacks_the_truth_has_broken_out_that_ukraine_is_not_winning.html Who is benefiting from this war? Xi Jin Ping? Raytheon executives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 9:26 PM, Mako said: Sorry to be a killjoy. I know some ghouls are really enjoying all the bloodshed in Ukraine. But RFK is right. It’s time for a negotiated peace. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/zelensky-war-time-magazine/ On 9/24/2023 at 2:05 AM, robosmith said: Will do nothing but ensure Trump wins. I reckon that this 2024 US federal presidential election will be among the most contested. My prediction? Biden will win. In 2025, Biden will be US president - assuming that he's not dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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