Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mako said: You acknowledge there is a neo-Nazi battalion. Glad you admit it. So you are Tokyo Rose allied with the Nazis. Facts are facts. Haven’t you left yet to fight Putin? Too much of a coward eh? You love war so long as other people are doing the fighting. Of course you are giving comfort and support to a ruthless dictator, a genocidal Communist dictator, Xi Jin Ping. He like you loves to watch the atrocities being committed on both sides: his main enemy (The U.S. and allies) fighting his potential enemy (Russia). I don't love war at all, but I certainly respect and support those with the courage to fight for their liberty. People with backbone and principles--you wouldn't understand. Have you traveled to Russia yet to fellate Putin physically, or is the online knob gobbling satisfying enough?? 1 Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Quote: In late 2021, it became clear that the Kremlin's restraint had run dry. Moscow issued demands for security guarantees, including a draw-down of military forces already deployed in NATO's eastern members. With respect to Ukraine, the demand was very clear and uncompromising: Not only would Kyiv never receive a membership invitation, but NATO weapons and troops would never be deployed on Ukrainian soil. When the West failed to provide those guarantees, Putin launched his devastating, full-scale war. Moscow's cruel overreaction deserves emphatic condemnation. However, the culpability of the United States and its NATO allies also is sizable. Moving an alliance that one great power dominates to the border of another major power is inherently destabilizing and provocative. Those people who are familiar with even the basics of international relations should grasp that point; it was inexcusable that so many U.S. and NATO leaders apparently did not do so. Link: https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554 Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Hodad said: I don't love war at all, but I certainly respect and support those with the courage to fight for their liberty. People with backbone and principles--you wouldn't understand. Have you traveled to Russia yet to fellate Putin physically, or is the online knob gobbling satisfying enough?? You don’t love war if you are fighting, but you do love war when you can hide behind your computer and let others do the dying. Are you still trembling chickenhawk? Do your neo-Nazi allies have backbone and principles Tokyo Rose? While you service Xi Jin Ping on your knees, do Raytheon executives take you from behind? Do you dress up like your heroine Tokyo Rose during the process? Is it difficult to get sweat stains out of your kimono? Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako 1 Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mako said: You don’t love war if you are fighting, but you do love war when you can hide behind your computer and let others do the dying. Are you still trembling chickenhawk? Do your neo-Nazi allies have backbone and principles Tokyo Rose? While you service Xi Jin Ping on your knees, do Raytheon executives take you from behind? Do you dress up like your heroine Tokyo Rose during the process? Is it difficult to get sweat stains out of your kimono? I wish you were either a little bit smarter, so you could come up with your own clever banter, or a lot smarter, so we wouldn't have to have this discussion at all. The bottom line is that you support brutal dictators waging wars of aggression instead of the victims fighting for freedom and sovereignty. There would be no France or Britain without the help of the United a States in the world wars. Nobody sent Americans into harms way because they really like war. We helped them because it was right and necessary. And, in this case, we're not even directly engaged, but simply giving another society of free people the material aid that they are pleading for in order to resist their would-be conquerors.-- That's the way it works. People who believe in freedom support others in the quest to be and stay free. Simply because it is the right thing to do. Frankly, it takes a real piece of shit to look at Ukraine situation and side with the invaders, but there you are.?♀️ 1 Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Hodad said: I wish you were either a little bit smarter, so you could come up with your own clever banter, or a lot smarter, so we wouldn't have to have this discussion at all. The bottom line is that you support brutal dictators waging wars of aggression instead of the victims fighting for freedom and sovereignty. There would be no France or Britain without the help of the United a States in the world wars. Nobody sent Americans into harms way because they really like war. We helped them because it was right and necessary. And, in this case, we're not even directly engaged, but simply giving another society of free people the material aid that they are pleading for in order to resist their would-be conquerors.-- That's the way it works. People who believe in freedom support others in the quest to be and stay free. Simply because it is the right thing to do. Frankly, it takes a real piece of shit to look at Ukraine situation and side with the invaders, but there you are.?♀️ You are lying about my position. I don’t support Putin. I support negotiations, compromise, peace. Saddam Hussein was a dictator, but Bush II’s war was a disaster. Do you support Bush II’s war against Saddam? Should the U.S. depose all dictators around the world? The Taliban is not fond of freedom. Should we go back into Afghanistan? You claim to be supporting freedom, yet you have admitted you are allied with neo-Nazis. Is Zelensky always on the side of freedom? https://thefederalist.com/2022/12/05/theres-no-such-thing-as-press-freedom-in-zelenskys-dissent-crushing-ukraine/ JFK threatened the Soviets because of their alliance with Cuba and their military buildup in Cuba. When Russians are similarly worried by a powerful ever-expanding hostile military alliance on their border are they being unreasonable? Quite a few ethnic Russians lived in Ukraine and some were treated very badly. Are border adjustments always wrong? Should we be pushing Russia into the arms of China? China and Russia have a long and contested border and could be turned against each other. Could the Ukraine war turn into WW III? Some people are making a lot of money from this war and they’ve fooled you with their propaganda. Biden offers Ukraine endless war. RFK offers Ukraine peace and neutrality. Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mako said: You are lying about my position. I don’t support Putin. I support negotiations, compromise, peace. Saddam Hussein was a dictator, but Bush II’s war was a disaster. Do you support Bush II’s war against Saddam? Should the U.S. depose all dictators around the world? The Taliban is not fond of freedom. Should we go back into Afghanistan? You claim to be supporting freedom, yet you have admitted you are allied with neo-Nazis. Is Zelensky always on the side of freedom? https://thefederalist.com/2022/12/05/theres-no-such-thing-as-press-freedom-in-zelenskys-dissent-crushing-ukraine/ JFK threatened the Soviets because of their alliance with Cuba and their military buildup. When Russians are similarly worried by a powerful ever-expanding hostile military alliance on their border are they being unreasonable? Quite a few ethnic Russians lived in Ukraine. Are border adjustments always wrong? Some people are making a lot of money from this war and they’ve fooled you with their propaganda. We're not deposing anything. This isn't engineering regime change. We're simply supporting a democratic ally as they defend themselves from an aggressive dictator. People who think that if they give a bully what they want the bully will leave them alone are both cowards and fools. Your buddy Putin will keep taking until someone stops him. Unlike you, the Ukrainians have the wisdom to understand this and the courage to fight for their freedom. Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Hodad said: We're not deposing anything. This isn't engineering regime change. We're simply supporting a democratic ally as they defend themselves from an aggressive dictator. People who think that if they give a bully what they want the bully will leave them alone are both cowards and fools. Your buddy Putin will keep taking until someone stops him. Unlike you, the Ukrainians have the wisdom to understand this and the courage to fight for their freedom. Check your facts. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-calling-regime-change-russia-this-time-it-isnt-gaffe-1694867 You ran from my questions. Do you approve of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Since you think we should fight for freedom against dictators/bullies you should approve. Do you think we should liberate Tibet and Xinjiang from the Communist dictators in Beijing? Remember you can’t give a bully like Xi Jin Ping what he wants. It will just embolden him. This will amaze you, but all dictators are not Hitler. Some have neither the desire nor the ability to conquer the world. You possess the courage to watch from afar as other people fight Putin. Get out there and fight you coward! Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako 1 Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Mako said: Check your facts. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-calling-regime-change-russia-this-time-it-isnt-gaffe-1694867 You ran from my questions. Do you approve of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Since you think we should fight for freedom against dictators/bullies you should approve. Do you think we should liberate Tibet and Xinjiang from the Communist dictators in Beijing? Remember you can’t give a bully like Xi Jin Ping what he wants. It will just embolden him. This will amaze you, but all dictators are not Hitler. Some have neither the desire nor the ability to conquer the world. You possess the courage to watch from afar as other people fight Putin. Get out there and fight you coward! ^^ This is wildly dishonest. Advocating that Putin to stand trial for war crimes in the war that Putin initiated is, in every way, unlike US efforts at regime change in Iraq, Libya etc. We didn't move the chess pieces. It's just asking for accountability. Russians SHOULD remove Putin. This "Go fight in Ukraine" nonsense is abysmally stupid. You keep repeating it as if it's meaningful or clever, but it just makes you look ridiculous. Like saying, "If you want to fight cancer, why don't you donate all of your money to research quit your job and become an oncologist, hypocrite!" Well, sure, a person COULD do that, but there's nothing wrong with offering material support to people fighting for their survival. It's pretty great, actually. The Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom and their survival. We're supporting them with goods to aid their fight--exactly what they asked for in terms of help. There's only good in that situation. Cowards like YOU don't get to decide that they'd be better off if they surrender to your buddy Putin. It's neither your place nor your choice. They are free people fighting to remain free, and as long as they remain free, they get to make for themselves the judgment of what their freedom is worth. Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Hodad said: ^^ This is wildly dishonest. Advocating that Putin to stand trial for war crimes in the war that Putin initiated is, in every way, unlike US efforts at regime change in Iraq, Libya etc. We didn't move the chess pieces. It's just asking for accountability. Russians SHOULD remove Putin. This "Go fight in Ukraine" nonsense is abysmally stupid. You keep repeating it as if it's meaningful or clever, but it just makes you look ridiculous. Like saying, "If you want to fight cancer, why don't you donate all of your money to research quit your job and become an oncologist, hypocrite!" Well, sure, a person COULD do that, but there's nothing wrong with offering material support to people fighting for their survival. It's pretty great, actually. The Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom and their survival. We're supporting them with goods to aid their fight--exactly what they asked for in terms of help. There's only good in that situation. Cowards like YOU don't get to decide that they'd be better off if they surrender to your buddy Putin. It's neither your place nor your choice. They are free people fighting to remain free, and as long as they remain free, they get to make for themselves the judgment of what their freedom is worth. It is “wildly dishonest” to point out you didn’t get your facts straight regarding regime change? You don’t have the brains to be an oncologist, but you certainly could go and fight on the front lines in Ukraine. But something seems to be stopping you… Speaking of your cowardice, you keep running from my questions. Do you support Bush II’s war against Saddam? Should we go back into Afghanistan? Do you think we should liberate Tibet and Xinjiang from the Communist dictators in Beijing? Here’s what a negotiated peace would look like: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/11/ukraine-needs-negotiated-peace-because-everyone-will-lose-war-attrition Why do you prefer a mountain of dead bodies? You keep proclaiming yourself a champion of freedom but you have admitted you are allied with neo-Nazis and you are too scared to fight. Curious. Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mako said: It is “wildly dishonest” to point out you didn’t get your facts straight regarding regime change? You don’t have the brains to be an oncologist, but you certainly could go and fight on the front lines in Ukraine. But something seems to be stopping you… Speaking of your cowardice, you keep running from my questions. Do you support Bush II’s war against Saddam? Should we go back into Afghanistan? Do you think we should liberate Tibet and Xinjiang from the Communist dictators in Beijing? Here’s what a negotiated peace would look like: Why do you prefer a mountain of dead bodies? You keep proclaiming yourself a champion of freedom but you have admitted you are allied with neo-Nazis and you are too scared to fight. Curious. Your questions are incredibly stupid. The don't merit any response. It's like talking to a child--in this case a simp of a child who will give the bully his lunch money every day. Grow a brain and a backbone and in no time at all you'll be on your way to becoming a real boy, Tokyo Rose. Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Hodad said: Your questions are incredibly stupid. The don't merit any response. It's like talking to a child--in this case a simp of a child who will give the bully his lunch money every day. Grow a brain and a backbone and in no time at all you'll be on your way to becoming a real boy, Tokyo Rose. Translation: you are too scared to answer my questions just like you are scared of everything else. Why do my questions terrify you princess? Is it because you are an intellectual as well as a physical coward? Here’s brave Hodad: Tell us why you don’t have the guts to condemn Bush II’s wars. I think we both know you can’t because you would expose your main argument as bankrupt. We’ve already established that since you are an admitted ally of neo-Nazis, you are Tokyo Rose. You wear a kimono when being ravished by Raytheon executives. You demand that other people fight dictators/bullies, you support the wars against Saddam and the Taliban. You are being used by cynical politicians who are profiting off of these wars. The Biden administration will support the genocidal Chinese dictators whatever the cost in dead Ukrainians! Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mako said: Translation: you are too scared to answer my questions just like you are scared of everything else. Why do my questions terrify you princess? Is it because you are an intellectual as well as a physical coward? Here’s brave Hodad: Tell us why you don’t have the guts to condemn Bush II’s wars. We’ve already established that since you are an admitted ally of neo-Nazis, you are Tokyo Rose. You wear a kimono when being ravished by Raytheon executives. You demand that other people fight dictators/bullies, you support the wars against Saddam and the Taliban. You are being used by cynical politicians who are profiting off of these wars. I don't demand that anyone fight dictators, jackass. I simply support those who do. Take the rest of your trite twaddle and shove it while you tell us again how the Ukrainians should just surrender to Putin, Tokyo Rose. Quote
Mako Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Hodad said: I don't demand that anyone fight dictators, jackass. I simply support those who do. Take the rest of your trite twaddle and shove it while you tell us again how the Ukrainians should just surrender to Putin, Tokyo Rose. Another factual error. You should get your facts straight when you celebrate mass murder. You support the Zelensky regime which is forcing men to fight against Russia. You support Bush Ii’s war against dictator Saddam, even though that war did not serve American interests. You support the Bush/Obama war against the freedom-hating Taliban, which accomplished little at great cost. You support the Biden administration’s war in Ukraine wherein Chinese interests are being defended to the last Ukrainian. And you do all this while dressed like Tokyo Rose with Raytheon war profiteers’ members in your eager mouth. What a marvel you are! You sure love war (when you’re not doing the fighting). Edited August 24, 2023 by Mako 1 Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Nationalist Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, Mako said: Translation: you are too scared to answer my questions just like you are scared of everything else. Why do my questions terrify you princess? Is it because you are an intellectual as well as a physical coward? Here’s brave Hodad: Tell us why you don’t have the guts to condemn Bush II’s wars. I think we both know you can’t because you would expose your main argument as bankrupt. We’ve already established that since you are an admitted ally of neo-Nazis, you are Tokyo Rose. You wear a kimono when being ravished by Raytheon executives. You demand that other people fight dictators/bullies, you support the wars against Saddam and the Taliban. You are being used by cynical politicians who are profiting off of these wars. The Biden administration will support the genocidal Chinese dictators whatever the cost in dead Ukrainians! LOL...I loved Monte Python's. And this clip is just so...descriptive right now. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 18 hours ago, Mako said: The threat of Ukraine joining was the issue you dunce. Some quotes from an article I linked to: “Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine following the Maidan Square protests and the unseating of pro-Russia President Viktor Yanukovych, accusing Washington of abetting regime change.” “After massing troops on Ukraine’s borders, Russia subsequently sent demands to the U.S., NATO and EU calling for a new European security framework; NATO retraction to the West; and denying Ukraine NATO membership. Each was rejected.” “But from his perspective, he was left with no choice. Ukraine was a vital Russian interest to be resolved by war if necessary. The West failed to comprehend that.” Biden administration blunderers or traitors brought about this war. It’s a catastrophe worse than Bush II wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bush II made a mess of the Mideast. The Biden administration is abetting Xi Jin Ping‘s goal of creating an authoritarian coalition that controls much of Eurasia. ^This is ALL LIES. The war was Putin's choice and you're a fool if you believe HIM OR his SYNCHOPHANTS. EVERYONE (else) KNOWS that "NATO retraction to the West" was never going to happen. LMAO 17 hours ago, Mako said: Chickenhawks are entangled in a love embrace with Mitch McConnell, war profiteers like Raytheon, and neocon warmongers such as Victoria Nuland (an important adviser to Dick Cheney during the Iraq War). https://www.vox.com/world/2022/12/16/23507640/dc-party-invite-military-contractors-money-ukraine-russia-war-us Meanwhile you're "entangled in a love embrace" with the MURDERER Putin. Quote
robosmith Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Mako said: Quote: In late 2021, it became clear that the Kremlin's restraint had run dry. Moscow issued demands for security guarantees, including a draw-down of military forces already deployed in NATO's eastern members. With respect to Ukraine, the demand was very clear and uncompromising: Not only would Kyiv never receive a membership invitation, but NATO weapons and troops would never be deployed on Ukrainian soil. When the West failed to provide those guarantees, Putin launched his devastating, full-scale war. Moscow's cruel overreaction deserves emphatic condemnation. However, the culpability of the United States and its NATO allies also is sizable. Moving an alliance that one great power dominates to the border of another major power is inherently destabilizing and provocative. Those people who are familiar with even the basics of international relations should grasp that point; it was inexcusable that so many U.S. and NATO leaders apparently did not do so. Link: https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554 ^OPINION. LMAO Putin just wants Ukrainian gas reserves and bumper grain crops because he is a KLEPTOCRAT who has stolen BILLIONS from Russia. Quote
Mako Posted August 25, 2023 Report Posted August 25, 2023 18 hours ago, robosmith said: ^OPINION. LMAO Putin just wants Ukrainian gas reserves and bumper grain crops because he is a KLEPTOCRAT who has stolen BILLIONS from Russia. If we had just declared Ukraine neutral, if we had just declared Ukraine NATO membership off the table there would be no war. I know you are enjoying the mountain of dead bodies, the refugees, the atrocities committed by both sides, the victims of cluster bombs provided by the U.S., the possibility (if you are lucky) of WW III - but many people prefer peace. The war is a historic disaster, not only because of the carnage. We are pushing Russia into Xi Jin Ping’s arms, helping this genocidal dictator build an authoritarian coalition that could defeat the West. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/08/egypt-iran-saudi-arabia-uae-join-brics Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
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