sharkman Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: The whole thing was about election FRAUD and FRAUDULENT VOTE TALLIES on Dominion machines. IF the case was winnable, then Fox was foolish to settle. Obviously Dominion had the goods on Fox even if the discovery documents are not available ONLINE. So Fox Show hosts said some stuff that damaged Dominion to the tune of 787 million. Only it was never said publicly otherwise you and any lefty would be able to provide quotes and links from the last 2-3 years. So how again did Dominion suffer damages when nobody heard or saw the private texts and such? Fox even called Arizona for Biden before anyone else back in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, sharkman said: So Fox Show hosts said some stuff that damaged Dominion to the tune of 787 million. Only it was never said publicly otherwise you and any lefty would be able to provide quotes and links from the last 2-3 years. So how again did Dominion suffer damages when nobody heard or saw the private texts and such? Fox even called Arizona for Biden before anyone else back in 2020. The allegations of votes being flipped from discovery documents were REPORTED by NUMEROUS SOURCES. Maybe not enough for those in DENIAL, but that is STRONG EVIDENCE what was reported is TRUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, sharkman said: So Fox Show hosts said some stuff that damaged Dominion to the tune of 787 million. Only it was never said publicly otherwise you and any lefty would be able to provide quotes and links from the last 2-3 years. Because the private correspondence showed that they knew they were lying. Their lies caused the damage for which Fox is paying Dominion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, robosmith said: The allegations of votes being flipped from discovery documents were REPORTED by NUMEROUS SOURCES. Maybe not enough for those in DENIAL, but that is STRONG EVIDENCE what was reported is TRUE. So let’s see these allegations and sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, sharkman said: So let’s see these allegations and sources. I already gave you the list returned by a google search. Did you have trouble reading that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, robosmith said: Too bad ^this OPINION PROVES NOTHING. Just a bunch of empty CLAIMS. too bad for you that it's accurate Everyone knows when you capitalize "OPINION" you know you've lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, sharkman said: So Fox Show hosts said some stuff that damaged Dominion to the tune of 787 million. Only it was never said publicly otherwise you and any lefty would be able to provide quotes and links from the last 2-3 years. So how again did Dominion suffer damages when nobody heard or saw the private texts and such? Fox even called Arizona for Biden before anyone else back in 2020. Yes, it was reported publicly by Fox News in November and December of 2020 when Fox News repeatedly interviews Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, who both stated numerous lies about Dominion. The text messages simply proved beyond any doubt that Fox News and the Fox reporters and hosts KNEW and BELIEVED that the claims were false. Not only did the text reveal that all of the senior Fox hosts believed the claims were false, Tucker then texted that a Fox News reporter should be fired because she tweeted that the election was not rigged. There was a deliberate decision that, despite believing and knowing that there was no widespread voter fraud, and that Dominion did nothing wrong, they should FIRE reporters who told the truth about this. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, sharkman said: And here’s the news that all of us conservatives were predicting:https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-prime-time-ratings-235844832.html Without the tentpole that Carlson's program provided, the ratings for other Fox News shows were down as well. "Hannity" averaged 2 million viewers, a decline of 20% from the previous week. "The Ingraham Angle" scored 1.56 million, down 12%. Newsmax appeared to be the beneficiary of Carlson fans looking for an alternative. "Eric Bolling The Balance" pulled in 562,000 viewers in the 8 p.m. Eastern hour, a fivefold increase over last Tuesday when Carlson was his competition That's brutal. LIke = really brutal. A station like fox is only worth what it's viewership is, and that was a massive hit. That's going to cost a HELL of a lot more money than that pay out did if it continues and they don't recover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: too bad for you that it's accurate Everyone knows when you capitalize "OPINION" you know you've lost OTC, OPINIONS mean NOTHING. LOGIC, LEARN IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: OTC, OPINIONS mean NOTHING. well that's your opinion And in fairness you mean nothing so i guess you've got a point.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sharkman said: Again, none of these texts are damaging to Dominion. Show me some damage. So why did FOX pay out $787.5 million to keep them out of court? All of a sudden, "follow the money" no longe applies? Edited April 27, 2023 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted April 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's brutal. LIke = really brutal. A station like fox is only worth what it's viewership is, and that was a massive hit. That's going to cost a HELL of a lot more money than that pay out did if it continues and they don't recover It's what can happen when you build a media empire on bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: It's what can happen when you build a media empire on bullshit. It can happen either way as bud just found out but in this case it looks like they compounded one bad decision with another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, sharkman said: So Fox Show hosts said some stuff that damaged Dominion to the tune of 787 million. Only it was never said publicly otherwise you and any lefty would be able to provide quotes and links from the last 2-3 years. So how again did Dominion suffer damages when nobody heard or saw the private texts and such? Fox even called Arizona for Biden before anyone else back in 2020. Let me mansplain two things: 1) $787 million is a LOT of money. 2) Fox News VOLUNTARILY gave Dominion Voting that money because they were certain they would lose at trial. Because of the Sullivan v NY Times decision, it is extremely difficult to win a defamation lawsuit. You must prove that the publication lied, that it damaged you; and that the publisher knew the information was false. Yet, Fox News was certain that Dominion would prevail. In other words, Fox KNOWS that Dominion did not rig the election and they KNOW the 2020 election was not stolen. 2 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's brutal. LIke = really brutal. A station like fox is only worth what it's viewership is, and that was a massive hit. That's going to cost a HELL of a lot more money than that pay out did if it continues and they don't recover Maybe Dominion will sue NewsMax next. We’ll see. One thing is clear: Fox News isn’t going anywhere. Carlson was too much liability and they had to cut him. Edited April 27, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CdnFox Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rebound said: Maybe Dominion will sue NewsMax next. We’ll see. One thing is clear: Fox News isn’t going anywhere. Carlson was too much liability and they had to cut him. Carlson wasn't the problem. The internal stuff shows he was against continuing to promote stories that seemed ridiculous. As you noted, suing news media is very hard. It's not enough that their stories hurt you. Or that they turned out to be untrue. you have to demonstrate they knowingly and deliberately lied. Carlson pointing out in texts and emails that the story was clearly false put Fox in a position where they weren't successful just saying they were reporting the news or repeating others. But i doubt many other places will be dumb enough to keep records of that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 Carlson’s mistake was his honesty based on what everyone here is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Carlson’s mistake was his honesty based on what everyone here is saying. Nothing honest about LYING to his viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: Nothing honest about LYING to his viewers. About what? He never said there was voting fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: About what? He never said there was voting fraud. Simple Fact: If Fox News hosts hadn’t lied about Dominion, Fox wouldn’t not have paid Dominion $767 million. Tucker Carlson, on air: "We don't know how many votes were stolen on Tuesday night. We don't know anything about the software that many say was rigged. We don't know. We ought to find out," he said. "But here's what we do know. On a larger level, at the highest levels, actually, our system isn't what we thought it was. It's not as fair as it should be. Not even close." “You've heard a lot over the past few days about the security of our electronic voting machines. This is a real issue, no matter who raises it or who tries to dismiss it out of hand as a conspiracy theory. Electronic voting is not as secure as traditional hand counting. Period.” Maria Bartiromo, in an interview with Sydney Powell: "Sidney, we talked about the Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities. Tell me about that." Hannity: “Let's not forget the software error -- we're going to be focused on this a lot -- wrongfully awarded Joe Biden thousands of ballots that were cast for President Trump, until the problem was amazingly fixed. And according to a report, that very same software -- it's called Dominion Voting Systems -- that was used in 28 states." Edited April 27, 2023 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Simple Fact: If Fox News hosts hadn’t lied about Dominion, Fox wouldn’t not have paid Dominion $767 million. Tucker Carlson, on air: "We don't know how many votes were stolen on Tuesday night. We don't know anything about the software that many say was rigged. We don't know. We ought to find out," he said. "But here's what we do know. On a larger level, at the highest levels, actually, our system isn't what we thought it was. It's not as fair as it should be. Not even close." “You've heard a lot over the past few days about the security of our electronic voting machines. This is a real issue, no matter who raises it or who tries to dismiss it out of hand as a conspiracy theory. Electronic voting is not as secure as traditional hand counting. Period.” Maria Bartiromo, in an interview with Sydney Powell: "Sidney, we talked about the Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities. Tell me about that." Hannity: “Let's not forget the software error -- we're going to be focused on this a lot -- wrongfully awarded Joe Biden thousands of ballots that were cast for President Trump, until the problem was amazingly fixed. And according to a report, that very same software -- it's called Dominion Voting Systems -- that was used in 28 states." Again, what did Carlson say? He roes the party line less than most and his texts show he has his own opinions. Edited April 28, 2023 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Again, what did Carlson say? He roes the party line less than most and his texts show he has his own opinions. I quoted Carlson and then you asked me what he said? Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rebound said: I quoted Carlson and then you asked me what he said? I’m saying he didn’t lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I’m saying he didn’t lie. And yet, Fox cut a check Dominion for $787 million. And they settled another suit with a Venezuelan businessman they smeared. And Smartmatic’s suit is coming up. And Tucker got fired. So maybe, just maybe… you are wrong, and those words of his were lies. Edited April 28, 2023 by Rebound 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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