Swastika found 'carved into back' of Jewish student at Las Vegas high school - anti semetism on the rise

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

anti-Semitism comes from both The left and right.

Mostly the left these days. Again - this board is a prime example. I have seen very direct comments from more than one poster and many times - but not from any right of center posters. There are posters here who just out and out call jews nazis.

Oh - and posting a non peer reviewed 'report' done by a left wing  political group prooooobably isn't going to help your case much

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by CdnFox

[impartialobserver]

I know.. supposed to read this and get all sorts of worked up. However, lots of elements to this story do not pass the sniff test. 

[CdnFox]

Here's a source that's still leaning left - the bbc. And even they have to admit it's the left

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57286341

An annual report released by the ADL in April found that 2,024 anti-Semitic incidents were reported in 2020, dropping 4% from an all-time high in 2019.

Last year saw the third-highest number of reports of assault, harassment and vandalism toward American Jews since the ADL first began tracking the data in 1979.

• The Democrats' 'tectonic' shift on Israel 

Experts say the recent attacks are being driven more from the political left than ever before. It comes as pro-Palestinian supporters blame American Jews for Israeli government policies.

 

in the most recent attacks "no one is wearing Maga hats", he added, referring to the Make America Great Again Hats worn by Trump supporters.

 

And that's from a left of center source in a left of center paper.

The left sided with paliestine and now hate the jews. There are NUMEROUS sources that note this.

ANd like i said - it ain't the people on the right that are making direct anti jew statements here. That would be people like americana antifa.

[dialamah]

57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Mostly the left these days. Again - this board is a prime example. I have seen very direct comments from more than one poster and many times - but not from any right of center posters. There are posters here who just out and out call jews nazis.

Oh - and posting a non peer reviewed 'report' done by a left wing  political group prooooobably isn't going to help your case much

 

It's not just the left.  

Over the past 10 years, ADL has found that 75 percent of extremist-related murders were linked to right-wing ideology, including the 2018 Tree of Life massacre, the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S. history.

Stop trying to white wash your side.

 

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, dialamah said:

It's not just the left.  

 

 

 

Nobody said it was just the left.

But as i already posted - these days it's mostly the left. And growing strong.

Stop trying to whatabout your party's activities. The hate and rhetoric of the left is what leads to events like this.

And agian - on this board ONLY the left wing has anti semetic remarks to share. And they're pretty bad. So there you go, real world results.

Edited April 24, 2023 by CdnFox

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Nobody said it was just the left.

You keep repeating like a mantra - it's the left, it's the left!  

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, dialamah said:

You keep repeating like a mantra - it's the left, it's the left!  

LOL - so where did i say that specifically? Point to me where i said "its the left" again and again

I never said it was only the left, in fact i didn't even say it was ALL the left. I said thats where its coming from THESE days and as the information i posted shows it is in fact where the increases in incidents are coming from probably as a result of whats' been going on in Palestine ';)

THe fact you feel the need to lie about it is pretty telling - obviously you agree but you're angry about it. So you lash out and lie. 

So why do you think the hatred of jews is so strong on the left right now, and why are you so ashamed of it you feel the need for dishonesty to cover it up?

 

[dialamah]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - so where did i say that specifically? Point to me where i said "its the left" again and again

I never said it was only the left, in fact i didn't even say it was ALL the left. I said thats where its coming from THESE days and as the information i posted shows it is in fact where the increases in incidents are coming from probably as a result of whats' been going on in Palestine ';)

THe fact you feel the need to lie about it is pretty telling - obviously you agree but you're angry about it. So you lash out and lie. 

So why do you think the hatred of jews is so strong on the left right now, and why are you so ashamed of it you feel the need for dishonesty to cover it up?

 

Every post you make.  

Only liar here is you.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Every post you make.  

LOL really - so i've made no posts here where i didn't say that   LOLOL

24 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Only liar here is you.

After that doozie sounds like you're still in front of that mirror LOL!

Poor girl - it must be sooooo upsetting to have your entire identity wrapped up in the left's echo chamber and then have the truth shatter that for you.

 

[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You literally call jews nazis. In SEVERAL threads.  Directly. You also call the isreali gov't nazis.  You also call many people here nazis. And conservatives in general.

Are you an incel? I notice that incels lie a lot.

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And nobody buys your pathetic "nazi conspiracy" theroy bullcrap where you say "Now, i'm not technically saying YOU'RE a nazi, but everything you think is nazi propaganda" bullshit.

This kind of violence is on you and your kind, spreading hatred of jews and claiming everyone is a nazi.  I hope you're enjoying your handiwork

You're running from the topic because you know I'm correct, as always.

The cultural marxism conspiracy is based on literal Nazi Party propaganda.

 

[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know why leftists keep trying to act like anti-Semitism comes from the right. 

First of all, not all anti-semitism is nazism. Racism against Jews is also part of the "Black Hebrew" movement. However, that form of anti-semitism is not nazism.

Secondly, while any form of racism is bad, the specific form of anti-semitism on the rise in the western world is nazism. Other forms of anti-semitism are still around, but they're not being promoted by mainstream media and politicians.

Finally, there are racists in every population. I'm not going to pretend there are no racists on the Left. But let's be real. Only the Right makes racism part of its platform. Nazism is right-wing and is only being promoted in right-wing media. You don't see left-wing or liberal media talking about cultural marxism.

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Anti-Semitism is out in the open in Dem politics. The alt-left media here in Canada is constantly running cover for Hamas and Hezbollah, pretending that the Israelis are war criminals. Our gov't won't take a stand against quds day hate rallies. 

No, they accurately point out that the Israeli government is run by war criminals. Acknowledging that the Bush admin was full of war criminals does not mean you think the American people are war criminals. This is a very lazy way of deflecting criticism from Israel. It's pure identity politics, which conservatives do constantly. 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The only reason that you think anti-Semitism comes from the right is that when there are synagogues defaced with hate symbols, leftist politicians and their MSM jump on the story to use it to divide people, and they insinuate that it's always done by conservatives. That's because leftist politicians and their media are some of the most repugnant people on the planet. A lot of the anti-Semitism that happens here actually comes from muslims, and they almost all vote for la turd. 

Sure, there are plenty of Muslims who hate Jews. But again, fundamentalist Islamic racism is not the form of racism being promoted in mainstream media. Fundamentalist Islam is not on the rise in western countries. Nazism actually is promoted in MSM and is growing on the Right. 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

First of all, not all anti-semitism is nazism. Racism against Jews is also part of the "Black Hebrew" movement. However, that form of anti-semitism is not nazism.

Secondly, while any form of racism is bad, the specific form of anti-semitism on the rise in the western world is nazism. Other forms of anti-semitism are still around, but they're not being promoted by mainstream media and politicians.

Finally, there are racists in every population. I'm not going to pretend there are no racists on the Left. But let's be real. Only the Right makes racism part of its platform. Nazism is right-wing and is only being promoted in right-wing media. You don't see left-wing or liberal media talking about cultural marxism.

No, they accurately point out that the Israeli government is run by war criminals. Acknowledging that the Bush admin was full of war criminals does not mean you think the American people are war criminals. This is a very lazy way of deflecting criticism from Israel. It's pure identity politics, which conservatives do constantly. 

Sure, there are plenty of Muslims who hate Jews. But again, fundamentalist Islamic racism is not the form of racism being promoted in mainstream media. Fundamentalist Islam is not on the rise in western countries. Nazism actually is promoted in MSM and is growing on the Right. 

You literally call jews nazis and make disparaging remarks about them regularly.  You are a VOCAL antisemite, and were till i pointed out you can get in real trouble for that in Canada and you might want to reign that in.  But youv'e made dozens of anti semetic remarks.

You are literally the problem that others were talking about.

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, CdnFox said:

You literally call jews nazis and make disparaging remarks about them regularly.  You are a VOCAL antisemite, and were till i pointed out you can get in real trouble for that in Canada and you might want to reign that in.  But youv'e made dozens of anti semetic remarks.

You are literally the problem that others were talking about.

That's an interesting bunch of lies, but it's really just a deflection from the topic. 

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

That's an interesting bunch of lies, but it's really just a deflection from the topic. 

It is the cast iron truth as you well know. And no - it's directly to the point.

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, CdnFox said:

It is the cast iron truth as you well know. And no - it's directly to the point.

Cool. So what do you think we should do to stop the growing nazi movement in the West?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

1) First of all, not all anti-semitism is nazism. 2) Racism against Jews is also part of the "Black Hebrew" movement. 3) However, that form of anti-semitism is not nazism.

It's weird how wrong you always are while you're pontificating.

1) Duh

2) Ok? I never heard of them but I don't care... That's just kind of a random thing to throw in there.

3) What a revelation.

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1) Secondly, while any form of racism is bad, the specific form of anti-semitism on the rise in the western world is nazism. 2) Other forms of anti-semitism are still around, but they're not 3) being promoted by mainstream media and politicians.

1) BS. I'm pretty far to the right. I literally can't stand Trudeau, the CBC, CTV, CNN, Biden and anyone dumb enough to still be supportive of any of them, and my FB page reflects that in no uncertain terms. I have hundreds of friends there. Still, I've never had a single person talk to me about Naziism or the Klan or any other shithole group, I don't even suspect any of my FB friends would be in such a group. 

By contrast, leftists are courted by domestic terrorist groups constantly. For example, you're here talking to people, trying to sell your shithole fascist group daily now, and people are civil to you for whatever reason. Honestly, the only reason I am is because I would hate to somehow look less than you. 

2) Still around? 

Dude, let's talk about the elephant in the room now. Muslims hate Jews more than they hate cancer. They have hate rallies out in the open, right in Ottawa, and our PM absolutely refuses to speak out against it. FYI the whole point of Quds day is to look fwd to the day that allah grants muslims victory over the infidels. It's the closing line of Khomeini's speech when he proclaimed that as an officially observed day on the calendar. 

There are muslim clerics HERE IN CANADA telling their adherents about the tree that's standing in front of the last Jew saying "Here he is". It openly advocates for genocide. That's not some kook in a barn out in the middle of BF nowhere, that's right inside of a mosque in Mtl, in front of the whole congragation. That's the most virulent form of Anti-'Semitism' there is (a lot of Arabs are Semites, the term A-S doesn't really work against Arabs), it's very common and it's no joke. Those guys mean every single bit of what they say. If they say that in the open, what do you think they say behind closed doors? 

3) Politicians absolutely do support anti-Semitism. Why do you think that Barack Obama is there lending credibility to the likes of Louis Farrakhan? Ilhan Omar is another Dem who's openly hostile towards Jews. Most of the squad is. Does CNN ever call those guys out for that? Of course not. FYI that's called tacit support. 

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1) Finally, there are racists in every population. I'm not going to pretend there are no racists on the Left. 2) But let's be real. Only the Right makes racism part of its platform. 3) Nazism is right-wing and is only being promoted in right-wing media. You don't see left-wing or liberal media talking about cultural marxism.

1) You literally have no clue about the difference between racism and religious bigotry, and that's weird, because you're here acting like you know everything. FYI racism and religious bigotry actually oppose each other in a lot of cases. For example, white and black people can be muslim and completely hate Jews while holding hands and being staunchly opposed to racism. 

2) You're such a filthy liar it's insane. No conservative in NA makes racism a part of their platform you stupid piece of crap. Not one. And you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that, but then again, you're a self-proclaimed domestic terrorist, so what should I expect? 

The only leftist politicians with actual racism in their platforms are the leftists who portray white people as being the world's only slave-owners, black people as being the only slaves ever, and act like muslims are somehow fit to judge others on that front.

Yeah, that's racism. It's actually the worst form of racism to falsely ascribe a negative character trait solely to an entire race of people, and to pretend that guilt is in one race's DNA and no one else's. FYI every race is guilty as sin. They're guilty of enslaving people of their own race, of enslving people of other races, enslaving people of other religions, etc.

Guess who abolished slavery when they were the dominant culture on earth and didn't have to do so.... You don't wanna hear this answer, buuuuut it's white Catholic/Christians... AWWWWW SANP!

Now, personally, I think that the industrial revolution made the real grunt work of slavery unnecessary and even redundant, so the creation of machines was probably the greatest factor, but credit where credit's due... It wasn't blacks and it wasn't muslims or LGBTQ or leftists or any of your other supposedly 'morally superior' groups. It was white God-fearing folk. Case closed.

3) Provide a cite now for Naziism being promoted in RW media right now you lying scumbag....

FYI the furthest right news org that's even close to being mainstream in Canada is Rebel News and it's owned by a Jew. Don't sit around waiting for Ezra Levant to make some kind of claim that echoes a quds day sentiment (you know, the kinda hateful statement which is fully endorsed by our PM) because it ain't gonna happen.  

The ONLY support that there is for Naziism in NA media is for the Azov brigade. Jon Stewart himself placed a medal right in the hand of a tattooed Azov Nazi on behalf of the Dems' Pentagon staffers. How much more support could you show for a Nazi than to give them a medal? 

Even the Dems who support virulent anti-Semites like Louis Farrakhan and Ilhan Omar don't normally advocate for Naziism. 

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1) No, they accurately point out that the Israeli government is run by war criminals. 2) Acknowledging that the Bush admin was full of war criminals does not mean you think the American people are war criminals. 3) This is a very lazy way of deflecting criticism from Israel. It's pure identity politics, which conservatives do constantly. 

1) No, that's actually not even a thing, liar. 2) You overlook the very worst war criminals on earth, you overlook Obama's "war crimes" and you're even a domestic terrorist yourself, and you somehow think that because the Israelis protect themselves that they're "war criminals". FYI Hezbollah and Hamas give pensions to terrorists and their families. If you blow yourself up to kill some Israeli children Hezbollah and Hamas will give your family a pension. That's how sick the people are who you support. 3) I don't have to "deflect" any of your criticisms because you're a domestic terrorist, so - by definition - anything that you say is already tainted with hate, and the stupidity is usually self-evident. 

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1) Sure, there are plenty of Muslims who hate Jews. 2) But again, fundamentalist Islamic racism is not the form of racism being promoted in mainstream media. 3) Fundamentalist Islam is not on the rise in western countries. 4) Nazism actually is promoted in MSM and is growing on the Right. 

1) It's part of the muslim religion to hate Jews, so yeah, there are plenty of haters lol.

2.1) OMG, there you go again conflating racism with religious bigotry. You're so stupid I can't believe I'm having this conversation with you.

2.2) At least you're admitting that a form of fundamental islamic bigotry is being supported by the MSM. It's not overt support, it's underhanded support. Omission here, exaggeration there, blurring of the truth, etc.

3) Of course islamic fundamentalism is on the rise because the number of muslims went up. A certain percentage of muslims are fundamentalists, period. You can't increase the number of muslims without increasing the number of fundamentalists. It's basic math. Statistics. 

4) If you can't provide a very real cite showing "the MSM promoting Naziism" then you should be banned from here, because your lies are way beyond the pale. I personally think that you're filth. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

That's an interesting bunch of lies, but it's really just a deflection from the topic. 

Guess what, genius...

"People who say 'self-professed Marxists are communists' are actually fascists themselves" isn't a real topic. It's just your own stupid screed. I've never heard anyone say that but you. 

You can't really deflect from a topic that's a non-starter to begin with, right?

If someone says "Donald Trump is gay" and you choose to be an adult and just ignore that comment it's not called "deflecting", it's called "taking the high road". 

If people don't want to acknowledge your bizarre, petty screed that's to be congratulated. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

It's weird how wrong you always are while you're pontificating.

1) Duh

2) Ok? I never heard of them but I don't care... That's just kind of a random thing to throw in there.

3) What a revelation.

This is really weird. You're saying that I'm wrong, but you agree with me on two of the three points. And the remaining point, you're saying you never heard of the black Hebrews, so you're not really challenging my point there. So what exactly am I wrong about?

Just now, WestCanMan said:

1) BS. I'm pretty far to the right. I literally can't stand Trudeau, the CBC, CTV, CNN, Biden and anyone dumb enough to still be supportive of any of them, and my FB page reflects that in no uncertain terms. I have hundreds of friends there. Still, I've never had a single person talk to me about Naziism or the Klan or any other shithole group, I don't even suspect any of my FB friends would be in such a group. 

Um... okay? Are you saying neo-nazism isn't real because you've never met a nazi?

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Dude, let's talk about the elephant in the room now. Muslims hate Jews more than they hate cancer. They have hate rallies out in the open, right in Ottawa, and our PM absolutely refuses to speak out against it. FYI the whole point of Quds day is to look fwd to the day that allah grants muslims victory over the infidels. It's the closing line of Khomeini's speech when he proclaimed that as an officially observed day on the calendar. 

I don't see how it's an elephant in the room, considering people talk about this all the time. I already mentioned it in this thread. Yeah, fundamentalist Muslims hate Jews. They also hate gay people. But as I already said, fundamentalist Islam is not on the rise in the West, it's also not promoted in MSM like nazi conspiracy theories are. 

As for Muslims having hate rallies in Ottawa and the PM not condemning them, I'd have to see some evidence of that. But even if that was true, that's nothing compared to nazi theory in MSM, plus it doesn't mean fundamentalist Islam is growing.

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Politicians absolutely do support anti-Semitism. Why do you think that Barack Obama is there lending credibility to the likes of Louis Farrakhan? Ilhan Omar is another Dem who's openly hostile towards Jews. Most of the squad is. Does CNN ever call those guys out for that? Of course not. FYI that's called tacit support. 

Again, this is lazy identity politics on your part.

Criticizing Israel is not racist against Jews. Criticizing Russia is not racist against Russians. Criticizing North Korea is not racist against Koreans. 

It funny, conservatives complain about identity politics, but y'all do it even more than liberals.

As for Obama, he was totally wrong for associating with Farrakhan in any way. However, Obama has condemned Farrakhan several times. And they weren't actually friends, they just took a picture together. Not defending Obama, he was wrong for doing that, but he never promoted Farrakhan's ideas.

Just now, WestCanMan said:

1) You literally have no clue about the difference between racism and religious bigotry, and that's weird, because you're here acting like you know everything.

I do know everything.

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The only leftist politicians with actual racism in their platforms are the leftists who portray white people as being the world's only slave-owners, black people as being the only slaves ever, and act like muslims are somehow fit to judge others on that front.

Which leftist politicians have made any of that part of their platform?

I have to say, the inconsistencies of right-wing propaganda are funny at times. On the one hand, the Left is degenerate for being anti-religion, pro-gay, pro-trans and feminist. On the other hand, we also want fundamentalist Islam. This is what happens when you just take everything you don't like and pretend it's all linked as part of a conspiracy.

The rest of your post was TL ; DR.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Cool. So what do you think we should do to stop the growing nazi movement in the West?

on an unrelated topic, what would you say it would take to get you to more to the east? Asking for a friend.

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

on an unrelated topic, what would you say it would take to get you to more to the east? Asking for a friend.

Ah yes, the "no, u" argument.

[Americana Antifa]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Guess what, genius...

"People who say 'self-professed Marxists are communists' are actually fascists themselves" isn't a real topic. It's just your own stupid screed. I've never heard anyone say that but you. 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If someone says "Donald Trump is gay" and you choose to be an adult and just ignore that comment it's not called "deflecting", it's called "taking the high road". 

I mean, I'd probably point out that Trump has only raped women.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Ah yes, the "no, u" argument.

No, it's just u. 

Lets not pretend you care about stopping the rising  anti semite sentiment in north america. You throw the words nazi around constantly and disparage the jews.  You ARE the problem.

As the left calls everyone a nazi and attacks anyone who disagrees and spreads their hatred and lies of COURSE it's going to give rise to that kind of radicalism. It's guaranteed.

you literally support a violent domestic terrorist organization and you wonder how violence and hatred can be spreading.

Ask yourself how you became what you are and what it would take to stop you behaving that way, and we'll know how to reduce this kind of thing in the west.

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

I mean, I'd probably point out that Trump has only raped women.

While ignoring that mr clinton did as well, and then claim all republicans are rapists.

Then you'll probably claim that this is proof they're trans and homo phobic because they ONLY rape women - where's the equality.

[Americana Antifa]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, it's just u. 

Lets not pretend you care about stopping the rising  anti semite sentiment in north america. You throw the words nazi around constantly and disparage the jews.  You ARE the problem.

As the left calls everyone a nazi and attacks anyone who disagrees and spreads their hatred and lies of COURSE it's going to give rise to that kind of radicalism. It's guaranteed.

you literally support a violent domestic terrorist organization and you wonder how violence and hatred can be spreading.

Ask yourself how you became what you are and what it would take to stop you behaving that way, and we'll know how to reduce this kind of thing in the west.

So you're not going to answer the question? BEYYYYYTA!

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

While ignoring that mr clinton did as well, and then claim all republicans are rapists.

Then you'll probably claim that this is proof they're trans and homo phobic because they ONLY rape women - where's the equality.

I've always said Bill Clinton is a rapist. Though that didn't coming out until after he was president. If he was widely known as a rapist before that, he'd have to run as a Republican.