Boges Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 https://www.cp24.com/sports/ontario-proposing-to-ban-online-gambling-ads-featuring-athletes-celebrities-1.6355087 Quote Online gambling operators in Ontario could soon be banned from featuring athletes and celebrities in their commercials. The ban is being proposed by the Alcohol and Gaming Commission (AGCO), which said the goal is to minimize “potential harm to youth and children.” The Crown agency noted that part of its mandate is to monitor and identify “emerging risks” and update the standards to mitigate them. Gambling sites must be the #1 funder of Sports media these days. You can't watch a sporting event without being inundated with Gambling ads. I don't oppose Sports Gambling. As gambling goes, it's probably the fairest method, but the marketing has gone too far. Sure free market, whatever. It's a highly addictive activity that should be regulated. If that means not glorifying like the sites do now, I'm all for it. What really bugs me, and isn't addressed here, is how Sports media has completely sold its soul to Gambling companies. For every NFL game shown on Canadian TV last year, they included a sponsored segment that looked an awful lot like a real pre-game show. It would would be so easy, and likely, for Fan Duel to dictate the result its talent to promotes based on what would benefit them. The House wins when an equal number of people bet for each result, so if too many people are betting for a result, tell the talent that NO! actually I think the Jaguars can cover here. It's really gross. Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 "Online gambling operators in Ontario could soon be banned from featuring athletes and celebrities in their commercials. So, they use actors from the Screen Actors Guild or ACTRA or hey, they can call me, I work for cheap. LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Boges Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Posted April 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: So, they use actors from the Screen Actors Guild or ACTRA or hey, they can call me, I work for cheap. LOL Sure, but using an Athlete or a "real" celebrity ads more credibility. Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 35 minutes ago, Boges said: Sure, but using an Athlete or a "real" celebrity ads more credibility. Point is, they are banning them. I am quite sure the gambling sites are not going to stop advertising. The "Athlete or a "real" celebrity" will have to find other sponsorship deals Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Boges Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Posted April 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Point is, they are banning them. I am quite sure the gambling sites are not going to stop advertising. The "Athlete or a "real" celebrity" will have to find other sponsorship deals Sure, as said, I would actually restrict Sports Gambling more than what's proposed here. It's really become almost an invasive disease in Canada since it was allowed. Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Boges said: Sure, as said, I would actually restrict Sports Gambling more than what's proposed here. It's really become almost an invasive disease in Canada since it was allowed. OK, I see where you are coming from. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Guest Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Boges said: It's a highly addictive activity that should be regulated. Just like they regulate regular gambling? The whole point of gambling in general, takes advantage of vulnerable demographics. Especially lotteries. Main reason you see tons of gambling spots and alcohol stores in poor neighborhoods. This is not accidental. People hard up on cash are likelier to having drinking and substance abuse problems, along with gambling addictions. People hard up on cash often won't have the education level to know the futile odds of winning millions. This is advertised heavily in such neighborhoods. What they don't show you are those who buy much more than they can afford as they were heavily marketed to with large winnings. That, or that person at a casino or at home, gambling away money they needed, and committing suicide. News prevents statistics on these to be released. Quote
TreeBeard Posted April 14, 2023 Report Posted April 14, 2023 I think a restricting gambling ads is a good idea given that it can have significant negative societal consequences. Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 15, 2023 Report Posted April 15, 2023 Why does the government want to use its power to stop these online gambling companies from advertising? Hmm hmm hmm. I wonder what it could be. Could it be... because it takes away from their revenue at Ontario- sanctioned casinos and lottery ticket sales? Quote
Guest Posted April 15, 2023 Report Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Why does the government want to use its power to stop these online gambling companies from advertising? Hmm hmm hmm. I wonder what it could be. Could it be... because it takes away from their revenue at Ontario- sanctioned casinos and lottery ticket sales? Can't be. Governments are there to protect us. Our votes matter less to them than our safety. Being a politician is synonymous with altruism and honesty. Any more, and you'd be a used car salesman (or person, to wokespeak). Your comment is appalling. Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 15, 2023 Report Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Can't be. Governments are there to protect us. Our votes matter less to them than our safety. Being a politician is synonymous with altruism and honesty. Any more, and you'd be a used car salesman (or person, to wokespeak). Your comment is appalling. You would think by the way these clods here all harmoniously chime in, the government's doing a great job. These people cannot be that stupid, can they? Yet they are. Meanwhile the reality is that we are not getting anywhere in terms of tangible social "improvements". In fact the opposite. I'm sure I can go out and show how poverty is on the rise, and ironically its people on social assistance who gamble a lot. As in more than most people consider normal. So, you want to do something about gambling, level the playing field. Shut down the casinos and the 649. Don't act like you're trying to protect people as a coverup for lining government coffers. Lotteries go back centuries, used as a way for kings to refill their vaults with wealth. Then it's ever on with the debaucherie. Meanwhile the people shall eat Bubble and Squeak... Edited April 15, 2023 by OftenWrong Quote
Boges Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Posted April 17, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 10:26 PM, OftenWrong said: So, you want to do something about gambling, level the playing field. Shut down the casinos and the 649. Don't act like you're trying to protect people as a coverup for lining government coffers. They kind of did by allowing these new sites to operate. They could just make it ProLine you could bet on sports, like had been the case for decades before. But now these sites are flooding sports media with ads. It's a bit of a cesspool right now. 1 Quote
RedDog Posted May 9, 2023 Report Posted May 9, 2023 Nearly all of our television gambling advertising in Alberta is Ontario based. To me it screams budget trouble. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 4:40 PM, TreeBeard said: I think a restricting gambling ads is a good idea given that it can have significant negative societal consequences. Wanna bet? (sorry. Coudn't help it. ) Quote
impartialobserver Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 What a pointless venture.. folks who want to gamble or bet on sports will find a way. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: What a pointless venture.. folks who want to gamble or bet on sports will find a way. Well they won't have to find a way - they're still allowing the gambling. This is just to cut back on using famous sports people etc to advertize for it. There will still be regular advertising. Which i guess arguably makes this even more pointless. Quote
impartialobserver Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well they won't have to find a way - they're still allowing the gambling. This is just to cut back on using famous sports people etc to advertize for it. There will still be regular advertising. Which i guess arguably makes this even more pointless. So the real question is the aesthetics.. This just shows how bored some people are. Advertising with random pro athlete or advertising without it... both are advertising.. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: So the real question is the aesthetics.. This just shows how bored some people are. Advertising with random pro athlete or advertising without it... both are advertising.. Yeah. Essentially. It's apperently immoral for sports figures to promote gambling but perfectly ok for the gov't to. Reminds me of when bob rae passed a law to shut down stores on sundays (back in those days the sabbath was still a topic). But he allowed casinos. The joke at the time was a picture of him saying "I won't have the people of the province shopping for satan on sunday when they should be gambling for god and gov't". 1 Quote
impartialobserver Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yeah. Essentially. It's apperently immoral for sports figures to promote gambling but perfectly ok for the gov't to. Reminds me of when bob rae passed a law to shut down stores on sundays (back in those days the sabbath was still a topic). But he allowed casinos. The joke at the time was a picture of him saying "I won't have the people of the province shopping for satan on sunday when they should be gambling for god and gov't". So the privately held casinos do not do their own advertising? The govt does it for them... if so, that is strange. As you know, I live in NV where gambling is ubiquitous. You do not see a lot of advertising by casinos on local TV.. If so, it is mostly to promote an event such as a convention or concert. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: So the privately held casinos do not do their own advertising? The govt does it for them... if so, that is strange. They're not exactly privately held. It's not like vegas. There are slightly different arrangements between vairous provinces but the gov't takes a very significant share of the profits and yes, often does the advertising especially for gambling like the lotteries. Local gov't and charaties also get their share. I believe in bc for example it's a 50 50 split Here's how the gov't divvies up its' share in bc. GOv'ts and local groups raked in 3 billion bucks in the last year i believe. THe gov't is a substantial partner in the industry. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/gambling-fundraising/gambling-in-bc/where-money-goes 11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: As you know, I live in NV where gambling is ubiquitous. You do not see a lot of advertising by casinos on local TV.. If so, it is mostly to promote an event such as a convention or concert. Well there you go. Quote
impartialobserver Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 58 minutes ago, CdnFox said: They're not exactly privately held. It's not like vegas. There are slightly different arrangements between vairous provinces but the gov't takes a very significant share of the profits and yes, often does the advertising especially for gambling like the lotteries. Local gov't and charaties also get their share. I believe in bc for example it's a 50 50 split Here's how the gov't divvies up its' share in bc. GOv'ts and local groups raked in 3 billion bucks in the last year i believe. THe gov't is a substantial partner in the industry. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/sports-culture/gambling-fundraising/gambling-in-bc/where-money-goes Well there you go. casinos do pay taxes as you know. too many to really list off here but the profits are dealt with in the normal fashion depending on ownership structure. That's interesting. We do not have a state lottery here in NV for obvious reasons. However, those stores in CA that are close to the stateline do very, very well when the lottery jackpots reach a high enough level. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 22, 2023 Report Posted May 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: casinos do pay taxes as you know. too many to really list off here but the profits are dealt with in the normal fashion depending on ownership structure. Trust me - this is a little different. This isn't taxes. They will still pay taxes above and beyond this. I don't know if it's still this way but historically the casinos in bc didn't even own the business license to operate. A charitable group would get the permit for a number of days and then the casino would share their profits with them and the gov't. The charity was supposed to provide 'voluneers' to watch over the casino and make sure they operated legitimately but honestly the money gets counted and changes hands so fast i coudln't have told you if they'd pocketed half of it. 36 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: That's interesting. We do not have a state lottery here in NV for obvious reasons. However, those stores in CA that are close to the stateline do very, very well when the lottery jackpots reach a high enough level. We have provincial lottos and pull tabs and scratch and wins of all kind It's generally known as '!diot tax" but it's still fun to play. An extended family member did win a very substantial amount once. Quote
Boges Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, impartialobserver said: So the real question is the aesthetics.. This just shows how bored some people are. Advertising with random pro athlete or advertising without it... both are advertising.. It's kind of like plain advertising on Tobacco products. Don't glorify gambling. Quote
Boges Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Posted May 23, 2023 The amount of Sport Gambling that's inundating all forms of sports media is annoying and intrusive. Gambling is like the Lottery. A tax on the dumb and stupid. ? Quote
impartialobserver Posted May 23, 2023 Report Posted May 23, 2023 I am a major sports fan. College football, pro baskeball, and the NHL are my big 3. My passion stems from the narrative, the story, and the game itself. I find gambling on it demeans it. Should I use my considerable knowledge for possible gain? Maybe but there is that word.. "possible". If I am going to put my money on something, I want something with far greater chance of returning a profit than betting on sports or gambling. Quote
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