southerncomfort Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/...06/1340180.html Bauble-head Svend By MARK BONOKOSKI The cesspool of political "entitlement" and "corruption" in which the federal Liberals are trying not to electorally drown is no longer a one-party domain now that a jewel thief has been acclaimed as Jack Layton's NDP candidate in the riding of Vancouver Centre. No longer can Jack call the kettle black. No longer can Jack talk ethics. How can Jack Layton accuse the Liberals of "helping themselves" in the sponsorship scandal, for example, when he has given his blessing to Sunday's endorsement of Svend Robinson, a politician who helped himself to a $50,000 antique ring while still sitting in the House of Commons. Quote
shoop Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Seems like Jack is doing his level-best to avoid being associated with Sven. The following is from an article by Jane Taber in today's Globe. (Sorry, it's a pay site so no link.) It was very chilly on the West Coast on the weekend, particularly if you were travelling with the New Democrats. Campaign insiders say that NDP Leader Jack Layton was doing his level best at events to stay away from his Vancouver Centre candidate Svend Robinson. Although Mr. Robinson can be seen in the background of news photos, the two did not pose for formal pictures together, and Mr. Layton was described as "snippy" when he was asked any questions about the former veteran NDP MP. Mr. Robinson, of course, did not run in the 2004 election after he admitted to stealing a $64,000 ring."He went out of his way, it seemed, not to have a photo of him with Svend, when most other campaign stops produced happy photos of Layton with the local candidate," the insider said. Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Seems like Jack is doing his level-best to avoid being associated with Sven.The following is from an article by Jane Taber in today's Globe. (Sorry, it's a pay site so no link.) It was very chilly on the West Coast on the weekend, particularly if you were travelling with the New Democrats. Campaign insiders say that NDP Leader Jack Layton was doing his level best at events to stay away from his Vancouver Centre candidate Svend Robinson. Although Mr. Robinson can be seen in the background of news photos, the two did not pose for formal pictures together, and Mr. Layton was described as "snippy" when he was asked any questions about the former veteran NDP MP. Mr. Robinson, of course, did not run in the 2004 election after he admitted to stealing a $64,000 ring."He went out of his way, it seemed, not to have a photo of him with Svend, when most other campaign stops produced happy photos of Layton with the local candidate," the insider said. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am shocked!!! Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Vancouver King Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Seems like Jack is doing his level-best to avoid being associated with Sven.The following is from an article by Jane Taber in today's Globe. (Sorry, it's a pay site so no link.) It was very chilly on the West Coast on the weekend, particularly if you were travelling with the New Democrats. Campaign insiders say that NDP Leader Jack Layton was doing his level best at events to stay away from his Vancouver Centre candidate Svend Robinson. Although Mr. Robinson can be seen in the background of news photos, the two did not pose for formal pictures together, and Mr. Layton was described as "snippy" when he was asked any questions about the former veteran NDP MP. Mr. Robinson, of course, did not run in the 2004 election after he admitted to stealing a $64,000 ring."He went out of his way, it seemed, not to have a photo of him with Svend, when most other campaign stops produced happy photos of Layton with the local candidate," the insider said. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To most everyone; Layton and Van Centre voters included, Svend looks like an opportunist parachuting in from Burnaby to take "easy advantage" of a riding that has a 30% concentration of gays. This riding is far too sophisticated to be taken in by a non-convicted thief - voters here will hold their noses and return Hedy Fry. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 To most everyone; Layton and Van Centre voters included, Svend looks like an opportunist parachuting in from Burnaby to take "easy advantage" of a riding that has a 30% concentration of gays. This riding is far too sophisticated to be taken in by a non-convicted thief - voters here will hold their noses and return Hedy Fry. I agree. Layton must be very, very disappointed that Robinson is running just as Harper must have been disappointed that he was stuck with Gurmant Grewal. Harper lucked out when Grewal quit. But unfortunately for CPC, the anti-aboriginal fisherman that was nominated to replace Grewal as the CPC candidate was the only candidate. He was acclaimed as the sacrifical lamb and that riding will go to the Indo-Canadian Liberal candidate. Quote
shoop Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Norman, Please quit hijacking threads. Please. I agree. Layton must be very, very disappointed that Robinson is running just as Harper must have been disappointed that he was stuck with Gurmant Grewal. Harper lucked out when Grewal quit. But unfortunately for CPC, the anti-aboriginal fisherman that was nominated to replace Grewal as the CPC candidate was the only candidate. He was acclaimed as the sacrifical lamb and that riding will go to the Indo-Canadian Liberal candidate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Svend Robinson should not be a candidate for the NDP...period. Quote
shoop Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks for getting back on topic. btw are we agreeing for a second time? Svend Robinson should not be a candidate for the NDP...period. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks for getting back on topic. btw are we agreeing for a second time?Svend Robinson should not be a candidate for the NDP...period. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're welcome. Yes. Quote
err Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks for getting back on topic. btw are we agreeing for a second time? Won't that drive you homophobe (anti-gay) CPC types crazy when " Sven Rides Again".... Quote
justcrowing Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks for getting back on topic. btw are we agreeing for a second time? Won't that drive you homophobe (anti-gay) CPC types crazy when " Sven Rides Again".... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why? Who gives a toss if Svend is gay or not - what is important is that he is a thief and if he has a mental problem, then will he be able to represent his constituents without having another stressful event? Furthermore, there are probably gay people who belong to the CPC party or do you know for a fact that there aren't or weren't any? Let's see Brison ran for the CPC leadership and he had a lot of votes - so where are those homophobics you are talking about? Throwing in the gay thingie is a cheap shot. Quote
Vancouver King Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks for getting back on topic. btw are we agreeing for a second time? Won't that drive you homophobe (anti-gay) CPC types crazy when " Sven Rides Again".... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Few things in politics are certain. This is the exception: Robinson is going down in Vancouver Centre. You can take that prediction to the bank. Get over it. It has nothing - repeat nothing - to do with homophobia. It has everything to do with opportunism, lack of ethics and a parachuting candidate. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 so where are those homophobics you are talking about? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How about Stephen Harper? See: http://cupe.ca/www/EqualityPride/4192 Quote
justcrowing Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 so where are those homophobics you are talking about? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How about Stephen Harper? See: http://cupe.ca/www/EqualityPride/4192 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> An old article dating back to 2002 and by a union - can't be bothered reading left wing crap. Ya gotta be kidding - times change. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 An old article dating back to 2002 and by a union - can't be bothered reading left wing crap. Ya gotta be kidding - times change. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Times do indeed change. But does Harper? Quote
justcrowing Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 An old article dating back to 2002 and by a union - can't be bothered reading left wing crap. Ya gotta be kidding - times change. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Times do indeed change. But does Harper? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well when you tell me you read or the news media reports that Harper is preaching religion on a street corner or that he kneels to pray 10x daily - then I may sit up and listen. Until then, he is no different in his beliefs, than Chretien, Martin or 50% or more of the Liberal caucus. You have a needle stuck on a record in the same groove - move it along and you just may learn something positive. Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 To most everyone; Layton and Van Centre voters included, Svend looks like an opportunist parachuting in from Burnaby to take "easy advantage" of a riding that has a 30% concentration of gays. This riding is far too sophisticated to be taken in by a non-convicted thief - voters here will hold their noses and return Hedy Fry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And because they are sophisticated, they know that one innocent slip of the tongue doesn't mean that they should be holding their noses when voting this fine lady back in. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 No longer can Jack call the kettle black. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Talk about calling the kettle black .... wasn't it interesting how Jack, out of the blue, turned on a dime and said that private clinics are okey-dokey? He did that right after Stephen Harper said that should Laureen need timely treatment he'd make SURE she got it. It makes you wonder if some wise guy leaned over to him and said ..... "Psst, Jack! Cut the crap or I'll tell them all about how Olivia got timely treatment for her recent bout with cancer." Makes me wonder, anyway. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Vancouver King Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 To most everyone; Layton and Van Centre voters included, Svend looks like an opportunist parachuting in from Burnaby to take "easy advantage" of a riding that has a 30% concentration of gays. This riding is far too sophisticated to be taken in by a non-convicted thief - voters here will hold their noses and return Hedy Fry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And because they are sophisticated, they know that one innocent slip of the tongue doesn't mean that they should be holding their noses when voting this fine lady back in. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hedy Fry's "innocent slip of the tongue" got her turfed from Cabinet. KKK crosses burning in Prince George? She was the only one in BC not repulsed. To her credit, despite having her obituary written more than once, she apparently has a first rate riding organization that delivers every known supporter to the polls. BTW, the numbers of well-heeled voters - Liberal voter fodder - increase every week with new Yaletown, Georgia St. and Stanley Park condos sprouting like mushrooms. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
southerncomfort Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Posted December 7, 2005 An old article dating back to 2002 and by a union - can't be bothered reading left wing crap. Ya gotta be kidding - times change. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Times do indeed change. But does Harper? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well when you tell me you read or the news media reports that Harper is preaching religion on a street corner or that he kneels to pray 10x daily - then I may sit up and listen. Until then, he is no different in his beliefs, than Chretien, Martin or 50% or more of the Liberal caucus. You have a needle stuck on a record in the same groove - move it along and you just may learn something positive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't think I've seen anyone with quite so much single minded tunnel vision LOL seems to me its strictly to bait people and try stir it up, just another S.D. Religion poppycock, your so right about Harper and when has he ever mentioned religion, he hasn't. Only the intolerant christiaphobes bring it up. Svend is a moonbat, don't really know which would be worse, him or Fry. Quote
Duke Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 No longer can Jack call the kettle black. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Talk about calling the kettle black .... wasn't it interesting how Jack, out of the blue, turned on a dime and said that private clinics are okey-dokey? He did that right after Stephen Harper said that should Laureen need timely treatment he'd make SURE she got it. It makes you wonder if some wise guy leaned over to him and said ..... "Psst, Jack! Cut the crap or I'll tell them all about how Olivia got timely treatment for her recent bout with cancer." Makes me wonder, anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Old Jack probably found out he needs a hernia fix pronto and the only place that can take you quickly is the private Shouldice Clinic in Toronto . They have been private for probably 40 years or more and do Hernia's only .Many pols have used it . Quote
southerncomfort Posted December 7, 2005 Author Report Posted December 7, 2005 An old article dating back to 2002 and by a union - can't be bothered reading left wing crap. Ya gotta be kidding - times change. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who believes Unions have any credibility these days with old Buzz saw angling for a senate seat eh! Quote
normanchateau Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Few things in politics are certain. This is the exception: Robinson is going down in Vancouver Centre. You can take that prediction to the bank. Get over it.It has nothing - repeat nothing - to do with homophobia. It has everything to do with opportunism, lack of ethics and a parachuting candidate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed VK, and Layton would be wise to distance himself from Robinson. Vancouver Centre will remain a Liberal seat thanks to the NDP candidate being a thief and despite CPC running a candidate who favours same sex marriage. Ironic that a mediocre Liberal candidate like Fry will retain the seat but Fry will benefit from Harper's position on C-38 rather than the opposite views of the local candidate. Quote
shoop Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 It is pretty questionable logic too. OK, Harper opposed C-38. Would that decision really change anybody's mind? If anybody changed their mind because of SSM they wouldn't change it back because of C-38. What kills me is the complete intolerance for people of faith. Derogatory names, dismissing their concerns. Uhhh, freedom of religion is a *right* that has always been guaranteed in this country. Why not respect it? Don't think I've seen anyone with quite so much single minded tunnel vision LOL seems to me its strictly to bait people and try stir it up, just another S.D.Religion poppycock, your so right about Harper and when has he ever mentioned religion, he hasn't. Only the intolerant christiaphobes bring it up. Svend is a moonbat, don't really know which would be worse, him or Fry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
sharkman Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 It seems the smaller the minority the more concern expressed by some. Religious types represent 20% of all Canadians it was mentioned, yet their concerns for ssm vs unions are trumped by a minority of only 1% of Canadians. Quote
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