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A grand jury in New York has indicted Donald Trump over his role in hush money payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels. These are the same crimes which landed Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen in prison. 
 

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, Donald! 
 

“When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over their head. Like, 'Don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head.' I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?' “

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@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

⬆️ Trending via The New York Times

A grand jury in New York has voted to indict Donald Trump over his role in a hush money payment to an adult star, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

Brother @Rebound, not sure why are you celebrating this, as many said, including Elon Musk this might benefit him, and I am starting to agree with him:

  • A federal prosecutor did not want to take the case, then other prosecutor said no, now this one, which is new, decided to open a case.
  • This will give Trump so much publicity is not even funny, he will probably WANT to be taken in handcuffs.

Michael Cohen went to prison for this. Why does Donald get a pass?  
 

The DOJ under Garland is a joke. Donald Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and Garland would find a reason not to prosecute him. 

@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Personally, everyone on the <-- left that celebrates this tonight, remember, this prosecutor is from the Democratic Party. 

The previous one before him did NOT want to take the case because most likely is weak and it involves an escort, that opens the door for someone like Trump to build rating. Trump made his fame by selling New York post papers about women, he WELCOMES this.

Terrible political mistake, in my opinion, which will most likely come back to bite the Democrats back, if the irrational MAGA wins again because of this, you are not welcome to seek refuge on my property, ask Gavin Newsom to host you. ?

Trump's DOJ prosecuted Cohen for this IN SERVICE to Trump and you're ONLY concerned about how it will motivate his CULT.

Kudos to Bragg for taking on a difficult and DANGEROUS (already receiving death threats) case.

Mob bosses sometimes do face the music for the CRIMES THEY ORDER.

Right wingers here complain about suppression of the laptop story but SAY NOTHING about BRIBES PAID BY TRUMP, to suppress the porn star f'cker story even when he pretended it was a business expense. ?.

 

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A crook's a crook, and there can be no political reasons to give someone a pass. 

Elon Musk has shown himself to be no more prescient than a National Enquirer horoscope page.

Lock him up.

I couldn't give a toss what magachuds do.  I have a higher opinion of Americans in general.

Anyway, with any luck, it will be first of many.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

THIS IS NOT ABOUT BRAGG. 

Man, I am so sick of this one man show narcissists. 

Last election was COMEY, now another one steps up, BRAGG.

  • Yes, they have the cover they are part of the law system so they get to cover with that one. 

This will help him in rating, agitation, he will WANT to be taken in handcuffs. His account on Truth Social is silent at this time, probably the lawyers are holding him back. ?

The only narcissist in the picture is about to get arrested.

Bragg is just a public servant who takes his responsibility seriously.

Posted
1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Many say that if Hilary Clinton knew when to hold her tongue and not say "Deplorables", she would be President now. Tactics if one wants to win. 

Doesn't work with Trump. 

We already know he could shoot somebody, etc. and his followers would still vote for him and send him Junior's college fund, so him being arrested isn't going to change their minds.  Just make them poorer.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

That's your opinion, personally, this is not serious, and it will help him. 

This man won the PRESIDENCY after AUDIO surfaced of HIM TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE DOES TO WOMEN. 

and you think this case about PAYING AN ESCORT, will deter people? 

Terrible political mistake, in my view. 

It's not going to deter those people, obviously.  Nothing deters cult members.

As to your misgivings, we shall see.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

87 MILLION followers on Twitter, as soon as he gets arrested with the handcuffs, he will fire a picture there is my estimation. 

It is the perfect entrance ESPECIALLY after what Musk said. Can you imagine the rating that he will get? and if the case fails? Trump will get top lawyers, oh God, I see it, nooo, MAGA 2024, if this happens remember this message from The Contrarian at 6:16 PM on March 30  - 2023. If the warning comes true, I welcome offers from the Democratic Party, I can advise them on future tactics so they do not lose again. 

Do you think he'll pay his lawyers this time?

I'm surprised at people who actually do think someone is above the law.  I always thought it was just rhetoric.

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Trump's popularity surging

now leading DeSantis 54% to 24%

Democrats saving Trump from himself in progress

Among people who would vote for either.

If DeSantis ever wants to be President he's going to have to have enough guts to take Trump at face value.  That there are those who will hate him for that is just something he's going to have to deal with.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Among people who would vote for either.

Who cares?

this sort of thing always backfires

Bill Clinton for example reached his highest approval rating of 73%

after he was impeached for getting a bj from Monica Lewinsky then lying about it

indicting the opposing candidate simply gives that candidate exponentially more street cred with their base

Trump was in trouble, DeSantis had closed the gap on him

until the Democrats went and rescued Trump from himself  now

gang gang

Posted
Just now, Dougie93 said:

this sort of thing always backfires

Bill Clinton for example reached his highest approval rating of 73%

after he was impeached for getting a bj from Monica Lewinsky then lying about it

indicting the opposing candidate simply gives that candidate exponentially more street cred with their base

Trump was in trouble, DeSantis had closed the gap on him

until the Democrats went and rescued Trump from himself  now

gang gang

Sure, but in your example you talk of Trump v DeSantis.  Most people aren't going to vote for either.  I can't see an indictment or two pushing undecideds towards him.

I edited my post there to add this after you quoted it.

If DeSantis ever wants to be President he's going to have to have enough guts to take Trump at face value.  That there are those who will hate him for that is just something he's going to have to deal with.

Posted
1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Sure, but in your example you talk of Trump v DeSantis.  Most people aren't going to vote for either.  I can't see an indictment or two pushing undecideds towards him.

I edited my post there to add this after you quoted it.

If DeSantis ever wants to be President he's going to have to have enough guts to take Trump at face value.  That there are those who will hate him for that is just something he's going to have to deal with.

Trump will win the election with ease

Biden is at 30%, going down in flames

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Trump will win the election with ease

Biden is at 30%, going down in flames

It doesn't matter.  Polls are polls.  If the Polls were any good I would still be European and Hillary might be in her second term.

I just have more respect for America and Americans than to believe they would elect this contemptible man again.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, but how can he do that, DeSantis when the Democratic Machine is attacking DeSantis daily? 

The machine wants Trump vs Biden, well, sure, but is like playing at the casino now, with this indictment over an adult star, is my take. 

Yes, I agree with you on this.  I didn't like it when they did it in the mid terms either.

As for the indictment, it won't be the first, or the worst.

Posted
5 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I just have more respect for America and Americans than to believe they would elect this contemptible man again.

nobody in America cares what a ex -pat British lefty from Canada thinks about anything 

Posted
Just now, Dougie93 said:

nobody in America cares what a ex -pat British lefty from Canada thinks about anything 

What's that got to do with anything?

Posted
2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

What's that got to do with anything?

what do your Trump deranged rantings have to do with anything ?

I'm handicapping the American election, who tf cares what Canadians think about it ?

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

what do your Trump deranged rantings have to do with anything ?

I'm handicapping the American election, who tf cares what Canadians think about it ?

 

 

I'm saying you're wrong.

 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

fool's errand, you can't prove a negative

I'm positive you're wrong.

Posted
Just now, bcsapper said:

Good one...

if you actually were positive, you would be serene, so would not feel the need to rant & rave about it

but since you are obviously agitated, we know you are in fact worried

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

if you actually were positive, you would be serene, so would not feel the need to rant & rave about it

but since you are obviously agitated, we know you are in fact worried

I'm positive you are wrong in your reliance on the polls.  I'm not ranting, and I'm not raving, but I don't generally do serenity either.

As for being agitated, I think your agitation about the subject of this thread far outweighs any I feel. 

I think you're genuinely upset that Trump is going to be charged.

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