CrakHoBarbie Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 5 hours ago, reason10 said: . well regulated You see the words "well regulated" don't cha dipshit? Yet some states don't even require background checks to buy guns. That means, you f__king braindead Id iot that the Constitution is not being followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Because we don't need them. How many gun owners are actual mass murderers? Not very many, so there's no reason to slap restrictions on law abiding citizens just because an occasional a$$hole goes on a killing spree. Red flag laws don't just prevent mass murders, they prevent homicides too. Crime in general is rare. Any preventative laws we have are going to prevent pretty few cases. It's illegal to call on people to commit violence, even though most people probably won't go through with what you're asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: this cycle of retaliatory violence scenario does not seem to be in your interests surely this simply plays into the hands of the Fascists the bourgeois left is not going to fight a domestic terror war only the Marxist-Leninists, or the "Tankies" as you call them, would stand a chance in such a conflict so this would be coming at you from both sides, Fascists from the right, Tankies from the left First of all, tankies usually side with fascists. Look at how many tankies are siding with Putin. Even the tankies who don't like Trump will still side with Trump over Biden. And this isn't new, the Soviet Union sided with the Axis until they were kicked out because Stalin was greedy. If tankies in America are going to stand against the fascist Republicans, of course I'll take it. It's like Ukraine accepting the help of nazis to beat back Russia. Sometimes that's just part of fighting for survival. But I'm not counting on tankies. I'm counting on anti-fascist Americans to arm themselves against the scum for self-defense. That includes leftists, liberals, and people who are mostly apolitical. Edited March 29 by Americana Antifa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: Red flag laws don't just prevent mass murders, they prevent homicides too. Crime in general is rare. Any preventative laws we have are going to prevent pretty few cases. It's illegal to call on people to commit violence, even though most people probably won't go through with what you're asking for. Red flag laws are a gateway to increased control over our right to bear arms. No, we stick with DL's and state ID's with occasional background checks as a security measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said: You see the words "well regulated" don't cha dipshit? Yet some states don't even require background checks to buy guns. That means, you f__king braindead Id iot that the Constitution is not being followed. psst! Hey dumba$$! Do you see the words "The right to bear arms shall not be infringed."? That makes "well regulated" mean "combat ready". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said: First of all, tankies usually side with fascists. Look at how many tankies are siding with Putin. Even the tankies who don't like Trump will still side with Trump over Biden. And this isn't new, the Soviet Union sided with the Axis until they were kicked out because Stalin was greedy. yes, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, that does seem to be the zeitgeist these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 10 minutes ago, Deluge said: psst! Hey dumba$$! Do you see the words "The right to bear arms shall not be infringed."? That makes "well regulated" mean "combat ready". I'm going to concede the point. Well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 On 3/28/2023 at 7:41 AM, bcsapper said: I've never seen a mass murder responded to with such glee. I wish that was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Everyone needs to take a chill pill. - Yeah, this absolutely was a leftist hate crime, and CNN and the Dems are doing everything they can to slap a GUNS label on it instead, and strip the trans label from the whole affair, but we knew that would be the case going in. - Yeah, this was absolutely also another gun crime. A person with serious mental health issues was able to get their hands on some semi-automatic rifles and go wild on some helpless children. - Yeah, the hate-mongering from the Dems and the MSM points to this exact kind of thing happening. They should take at least some ownership instead of shifting the blame to guns. - Yeah, it's inevitable that if there are 300,000,000 guns lying around then it's only a matter of time between events where someone has a "falling down" moment. Fact is this was just another brutal tragedy in a long line of tragedies that won't end any time soon. What's unique about this tragedy is that a massive amount of very hateful government/MSM rhetoric was partly to blame for this mass murder. Period. Whether or not that person was able to get guns, they had enough hate to go on a killing spree, and they could have killed more people with a minivan at a Christmas parade than they killed with those guns. Van attacks have also been far more deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Red flag laws are a gateway to increased control over our right to bear arms. No, we stick with DL's and state ID's with occasional background checks as a security measure. So you believe there should be no restrictions on gun ownership and are prepared to put up 37,000 dead Americans annually and mass shootings as a result. Just be honest about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 43 minutes ago, Aristides said: So you believe there should be no restrictions on gun ownership and are prepared to put up 37,000 dead Americans annually and mass shootings as a result. Just be honest about it. Do you believe that leftists are being honest about these "gun" problems when they keep citing "SEMI-AUTOMATIC ASSAULT RIFLES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" as public enemy number one? https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/ More people are killed by hand (foot, etc) than by "rifles" each year. Twice as many people are killed by knives as rifles. Are leftists advocating for a knife ban? Granted, of the 4,700 "firearm, type not stated" murders there are likely some more rifles, but it's also likely that they're going to be in the same proportion to other firearms that we see among the specified guns on the chart. I.e, 1/15th the number of handgun murders. Did you ever notice that when leftists shriek about gun violence it's never the handguns that their street thugs use to kill thousands and thousands of people, it's always the rifles which kill less than 500? Why is that, honestly? It's like trying to solve the Aspirin death problem before tackling fentanyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 5 hours ago, Deluge said: Red flag laws are a gateway to increased control over our right to bear arms. That's the slippery slope fallacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Antifa Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 5 hours ago, Dougie93 said: yes, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, that does seem to be the zeitgeist these days Authoritarianism is authoritarianism, no matter the specific version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 30 Author Report Share Posted March 30 Leftist lunatics still trying to change the subject to gun control when the whacko killed kids because they were Christians. Sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 30 Author Report Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Aristides said: So you believe there should be no restrictions on gun ownership and are prepared to put up 37,000 dead Americans annually and mass shootings as a result. Just be honest about it. Vehicle collisions make up a larger death toll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) Oh Christmas came early for republicans finally they have an ACTUAL trans spree shooter unlike the lies they’ve told about past killers Never mind that 99.9% of mass shooters are straight white males -that’s not a pattern - the ONE trans mass shooter who identifies as a white male “proves” that trans people are the real safety problem! 🙄 The fact that her parents were “very religious” and refused to accept her and that she lives in a time where republicans are escalating every more anti-trans mass hysteria was probably more of a contributing factor than her actually just being trans. Not to mention that in America’s shitty society where guns are easier to obtain than healthcare, she appears to be yet another example of someone with a diagnosed yet untreated mental health condition who legally owns multiple firearms including at least one assault rifle. Edited March 30 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLefty Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 On 3/28/2023 at 2:49 AM, Americana Antifa said: Most leftists don't have gender dysphoria. Not even all trans people have it. So that wouldn't solve the leftist problem. Have to agree. Ever see the females at a Trump rally? Most burly butch dykes are republican Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Oh Christmas came early for republicans finally they have an ACTUAL trans spree shooter unlike the lies they’ve told about past killers Hey, I'm going to help you with that first one Beave because you seem to have a lot of trouble supporting your argument. Sorry, but the best I could find were the leftists at Snopes. https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/03/29/viral-transgender-shooter-claims-context/ They might help you with your fringies of Progdom who like yourself have bought into the whole, "ignore the obvious" thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Speaking of ignoring the obvious: Quote On 3/27/2023 at 11:49 PM, Americana Antifa said: Have to agree. Ever see the females at a Trump rally? Most burly butch dykes are republican Are you for real? Do you have a set of eyes? Ever consider using them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 2:26 AM, Americana Antifa said: While I'm sure you want to murder leftists, that's not really an option. How about red flag laws and closing loopholes? I’m all for gun control. Let’s start by disarming all Democrat politicians and Hollywood celebrities and their bodyguards. Then we could disarm all the Communists and trans-activists. Those people are also dangerous. Edited March 30 by Mako Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said: Hey, I'm going to help you with that first one Beave because you seem to have a lot of trouble supporting your argument. Sorry, but the best I could find were the leftists at Snopes. https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/03/29/viral-transgender-shooter-claims-context/ They might help you with your fringies of Progdom who like yourself have bought into the whole, "ignore the obvious" thing. What are you trying to argue here? So the right wing media has claimed the shooter is trans. You don’t have to go very far at all to find that. They are doing the happy dance because the right has been looking for a trans boogeyman (boogeyperson?) for years now ever since their Muslim terrorist hysteria kinda wore off. Some of the MSM are also claiming the shooter is trans or is unconfirmed trans …although it seems to he a right wing made up lie that they had taken testosterone or that testosterone ha y do with it (doesn’t the right admire testosterone anyway?) I haven’t seen anything that says she raised by the state. However It is a fact though that her parents were ultra conservative Christians with whom she was living at the time of the attack and who knew of her mental illness and also knew that she owned at least one gun at some point. Amd it’s also a fact that she attended that Christian school that she shot up. The repressive conservative Christian upbringing conveniently left out of the tweet you copied. My point still stands Edited March 30 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Oh Christmas came early for republicans finally they have an ACTUAL trans spree shooter unlike the lies they’ve told about past killers Never mind that 99.9% of mass shooters are straight white males -that’s not a pattern - the ONE trans mass shooter who identifies as a white male “proves” that trans people are the real safety problem! 🙄 The fact that her parents were “very religious” and refused to accept her and that she lives in a time where republicans are escalating every more anti-trans mass hysteria was probably more of a contributing factor than her actually just being trans. Not to mention that in America’s shitty society where guns are easier to obtain than healthcare, she appears to be yet another example of someone with a diagnosed yet untreated mental health condition who legally owns multiple firearms including at least one assault rifle. 99.9% of mass shooters are straight white males? Where’s your evidence? And then you blame the victims of trans-violence on people who criticize the trans-movement. Great victim blaming. Classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) Video of the police, effective enter and execution of the task: Edited March 30 by Contrarian edit design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said: That's the slippery slope fallacy. For government sluts it's the slippery slope fallacy, but no one who matters cares what you guys think. lol No, ID's are enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 12 hours ago, Aristides said: So you believe there should be no restrictions on gun ownership and are prepared to put up 37,000 dead Americans annually and mass shootings as a result. Just be honest about it. No restrictions until you f*ckup like that tranny did in Tennessee. See, gun ownership is a constitutional right - it's necessary in the event that a piece of sh*t democrat goes tyrannical on our citizenship. We're not going to cave in to the bleeding hearts just because they hate guns and the constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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