Poll: Did Barack Obama preach Unity or Division in the below message?

[Contrarian]

Did Barack Obama preach Unity or Division in the below message? 

There is a famous Canadian MAGA man from the Canadian West Coast which activates on this forum that is too lazy to do the work for what he believes in. He just does copy and paste pictures from paint.

• His main accusation is that Barack Obama engaged in division and justified the deaths of police officers because of slavery. Or something. 99 % I am convinced this is what he kept agitating about. 

I will most likely be voting Unity, as I don't agree with his BIAS and opinion. This is what democracy is about. We can disagree. Until people like him come to power, at least, we can disagree. But first, I will watch the video again, today sometimes. I don't want to be like Judge Dredd and pass an immediate judgement even if I already know what that might be. 

What do you think? 

• I did not tag the person, because a lazy person does not deserve to be promoted. Everyone knows who he is anyways, he is famous. 
   

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[Contrarian]

• The world is how we choose to see it.
• "We are not as divided as we seem" is a line that stood for me in the above speech. 
• Obama has brought up uncomfortable points, such as the pack mentality in the police force. Even on race, he is the first African American president, are you kidding? He is not allowed to talk about racial tensions in that country? If not he, who, Bush, Trump?! He also recognised in that same speech that police officers are not social workers, acknowledging the high stress of officers (I might add which patrol the streets against criminal elements that have AK-47s as an everyday gun). The police officers respected that. 
• Overall, the speech stood for unity, in my opinion. 
• Yes, the world is how we choose to see it, or maybe is my BIAS. End of commentary. 

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[Hodad]

On 3/26/2023 at 4:52 PM, Contrarian said:

• The world is how we choose to see it.
• "We are not as divided as we seem" is a line that stood for me in the above speech. 
• Obama has brought up uncomfortable points, such as the pack mentality in the police force. Even on race, he is the first African American president, are you kidding? He is not allowed to talk about racial tensions in that country? If not he, who, Bush, Trump?! He also recognised in that same speech that police officers are not social workers, acknowledging the high stress of officers (I might add which patrol the streets against criminal elements that have AK-47s as an everyday gun). The police officers respected that. 
• Overall, the speech stood for unity, in my opinion. 
• Yes, the world is how we choose to see it, or maybe is my BIAS. End of commentary. 

Exactly. With the nation in the midst of extreme racial tension and protests everywhere against police brutality the POTUS must speak to the whole nation, and particularly as the first Black president, must use his platform and his voice to ease tensions and build bridges. He rose to the occasion here. The slain officers and their colleagues were both humanized and lionized, celebrated for their courage and sacrifice. He also recognized the legitimate grievances of the protesters. And then tried to bridge the gap between the two groups. Structurally, it was very good leading into the unity thesis. He got the attention of everyone who needed to hear, showed them that he understood what they were feeling, and implored them to see the humanity in one another.

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[Contrarian]

11 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Exactly. With the nation in the midst of extreme racial tension and protests everywhere against police brutality the POTUS must speak to the whole nation, and particularly as the first Black president, must use his platform and his voice to ease tensions and build bridges. He rose to the occasion here. The slain officers and their colleagues were both humanized and lionized, celebrated for their selfless sacrifice. He also recognized the legitimate grievances of the protesters. And then tried to bridge the gap between the two groups. 

That's because people do not know the history of Obama aside from the right wing radio hosts which sells them donuts.

At the Harvard Law Review, Obama was often criticised by far left group thinkers that he is close to the right. What else can the far left say when someone does not sing their song?! @Americana Antifa

He had an ability to play the balance of leadership well, also being aware that every word he says as an African American can inflame so many forces, is my take. 

Of course he made the big dollars after, however, Obama was no Bernie Sanders, I am OK with Obama making money, says the Contrarian BIAS. 😄

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[Americana Antifa]

11 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

At the Harvard Law Review, Obama was often criticised by far left group thinkers that he is close to the right. What else can the far left say when someone does not sing their song?! @Americana Antifa

Um... yes? Everyone criticizes people they disagree with.

I think Obama did alright, he was obviously the lesser evil in both of his elections, but he also did some really bad things. And yeah, he's a liberal, but he did lean more to the Right than the Left.

[Contrarian]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

but he did lean more to the Right than the Left.

Who are people to you than lean more to the Left <- (opposite)? Top 3 names will do so I can understand your frame of thinking.  

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[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Who are people to you than lean more to the Left <- (opposite)? Top 3 names will do so I can understand your frame of thinking.  

I don't know about the top 3, but Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ilhan Omar, pretty much anyone associated with the Squad. Some of them are probably actual leftists, but don't want to be too open about ending capitalism just yet.

[Contrarian]

6 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I don't know about the top 3, but Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ilhan Omar

But what exactly did Bernie Sanders, we will take him first, because he is the main guru. 

Why would someone trust Bernie Sanders? Did he produce an actual good and service for someone to use except talking and repeating the same point all over again on his way to how many houses does Bernie have now? 

Listen, I know someone personally that did business in Vermont when Bernie was running things there as a mayor. Do you know what he said to me (he was a former fan)? 

"Bernie is like Moses, he tells everyone to get into the Red Sea, but lets others to go in first." 

😄 

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[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

But what exactly did Bernie Sanders, we will take him first, because he is the main guru. 

Why would someone trust Bernie Sanders? Did he produce an actual good and service for someone to use except talking and repeating the same point all over again on his way to how many houses does Bernie have now? 

So I'm not saying I trust or even like these people, I'm just saying they're examples of the few left-leaning people in mainstream politics. I think AOC's messaging is pretty horrible at times, but for the most part, she's good on the issues.

Secondly, Sanders has been insanely consistent, even in an environment where billionaires are constantly trying to get politicians to become more conservative. That alone makes him trustworthy. And yeah, he's rich, but he's fighting to raise his own taxes so that everyone can have healthcare. That's pretty selfless.

[Contrarian]

5 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So I'm not saying I trust or even like these people, I'm just saying they're examples of the few left-leaning people in mainstream politics. I think AOC's messaging is pretty horrible at times, but for the most part, she's good on the issues.

Secondly, Sanders has been insanely consistent, even in an environment where billionaires are constantly trying to get politicians to become more conservative. That alone makes him trustworthy. And yeah, he's rich, but he's fighting to raise his own taxes so that everyone can have healthcare. That's pretty selfless.

Being consistent on issues automatically makes a politician trustworthy? Maybe he does less thinking? 

Also, you are still perpetuating the "us vs. them" mentality by singling out left-leaning politicians as the few examples of trustworthy individuals in mainstream politics.

No RW people made the list?!

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[Americana Antifa]

Just now, Contrarian said:

Being consistent on issues automatically makes a politician trustworthy? Maybe he does less thinking?

"Secondly, Sanders has been insanely consistent, even in an environment where billionaires are constantly trying to get politicians to become more conservative."

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Also, you are still perpetuating the "us vs. them" mentality by singling out left-leaning politicians as the few examples of trustworthy individuals in mainstream politics.

No, which is why I also brought up his consistency. There have been left-leaning politicians who fought for the working-class, but then gave up and starting moving to the Right so they can get more donors. Sanders is one of the guys who refused to do that.