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U.S. ran secret probe into China's operations in Canada, new book alleges


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  • Not a surprise for myself, to give my short opinion. 

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Book alleges longstanding U.S. concerns. Canadian intel veteran who recalls probe to testify in Parliament.

The United States ran a secret probe into national-security threats posed by Chinese overseas operations that drew alarming conclusions about Canada, alleges a new book co-authored by a former RCMP and military intelligence official. 

The book says the project, code-named Operation Dragon Lord, led to an unnerving takeaway: Beijing's activities in Canada represented a security threat to the United States. 

Full Article with a lot of text to read and interesting details: 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-dragon-lord-probe-book-1.6783063?cmp=rss

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So, it is okay for the Americans and the Russians to be interfering in Canada but not the Chinese? Ottawa in particular, has been an espionage hub since the Second World War. Traditionally, it is the one place where every major player has an embassy.

The US administration used its influence and strategic leaks to bring down the Conservative government and help the Liberals win the 1963 election. The GRU  and the American opposition forces are currently bombarding Canadians with misinformation in social media. Those same American opposition groups aided the illegal occupation of Ottawa last year, donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars (US3.62 million) . A significant portion of that came from anonymous US donors.  

China views Taiwan as part of China in the same way Canada views Alberta as part of Canada. If another country actively supported Alberta's independence, that would be a threat to Canada. Of course, if China became a free democratic country, Taiwan might not object to re-joining the mainland.

We are right to try to minimize foreign interference, but there is only so much we can do. China has mastered the craft of acquiring influence around the world. If the western powers ever came into direct confrontaion with China, we could be in for a nasty surprise. The best response is to emulate them in establishing bases of support around the world, and working inside China to build a network within the Communist Party. The thing about spies is they will turn on a dime. Every spy the Germans put into the UK in WW2, was discovered and, either turned, or replaced with an imposter. (The XX system)

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12 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So, it is okay for the Americans to be interfering in Canada but not the Chinese?

as per the United Kingdom United States Security Agreement which Canada is signatory to

I would assert that Five Eyes has a mandate to intervene in Canada

wherein Canada would be under the undue influence of a hostile foreign power

Canada has in fact signed over permission to the other members of FVEY to do this as necessary

in case Canada were to be overrun in effect

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4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So, it is okay for the Americans and the Russians to be interfering in Canada but not the Chinese? Ottawa in particular, has been an espionage hub since the Second World War. Traditionally, it is the one place where every major player has an embassy.

The US administration used its influence and strategic leaks to bring down the Conservative government and help the Liberals win the 1963 election. The GRU  and the American opposition forces are currently bombarding Canadians with misinformation in social media. Those same American opposition groups aided the illegal occupation of Ottawa last year, donating hundreds of thousands of US dollars (US3.62 million) . A significant portion of that came from anonymous US donors.  

China views Taiwan as part of China in the same way Canada views Alberta as part of Canada. If another country actively supported Alberta's independence, that would be a threat to Canada. Of course, if China became a free democratic country, Taiwan might not object to re-joining the mainland.

We are right to try to minimize foreign interference, but there is only so much we can do. China has mastered the craft of acquiring influence around the world. If the western powers ever came into direct confrontaion with China, we could be in for a nasty surprise. The best response is to emulate them in establishing bases of support around the world, and working inside China to build a network within the Communist Party. The thing about spies is they will turn on a dime. Every spy the Germans put into the UK in WW2, was discovered and, either turned, or replaced with an imposter. (The XX system)

  • While it is true that foreign interference in Canada is not limited to China, it is important to address all forms of interference regardless of the country of origin.
  • The CCP has been known to engage in various forms of espionage and influence operations around the world.
  • It is in the interest of both US and Canada to address foreign interference, as it poses a threat to national security. Working together to address foreign interference can strengthen the relationship between America and Canada, which is important for both.
  • Building a network to counter Chinese influence and espionage, is a valid approach but it should not detract from the need to address all forms of foreign interference.
  • The involvement of anonymous US donors in the occupation of Ottawa and the spread of misinformation in social media is a serious concern that needs to be addressed as well.
  • The suggestion that if China becomes a free democratic country, Taiwan might not object to re-joining the mainland is speculative.
  • While there may be limits to what can be done to minimize foreign interference, it is important to take action where possible to protect national security is my opinion on this. 
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