Poll: A Woman, Star of Tik Tok gets kicked out from a gym after accusing Man of staring at her. Who is wrong?

[Contrarian]

A Woman, Star of Tik Tok gets kicked out from a gym after accusing Man of staring at her.

Who is wrong? 

Full Dialogue: 

Woman: Are you looking for something?
Man: Not.
Woman: That's what I thought.
Man: You are OK?
Woman: Keep working there.
Man: If you are rude, you can leave. No one looked at you in any way.
Woman: You are not the owner of the gym.
Man: No, I'm not the owner, but I work here.
Woman: OK.
Man: And if you're rude, you can leave.
Woman: What does this mean?
Man: I can call the police and get you banned here. Would you like?
Woman: Come on, do it!
Man: Ok, good.
Woman: Come on, tell them!
Man: I will do that. You can collect your things.

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[Perspektiv]

He glanced over. She needs to learn what a stare is.

She set him up. She had the camera there, deliberately looking for problems. She was hyper confrontational  knowing she would get views for "standing up for herself".

He was non threatening, didn't say a word and his behavior until she confronted him, was non aggressive. Standing up for what? 

You feel entitled to men not looking at you while you remove clothing in the open at a public unisex gym? Go to an all women's gym. 

You're entitled to a workout free of harassment. That was not harassment. 

If anything, you overreacted, likely to get views.

Should she get kicked out? No. He got butthurt at being shut down, he should have let it slide, and either apologized or not said a word. I would have given her a thumbs up.

Women like this complain they can't find men.

Shocking! 

[Perspektiv]

Its women like this, which make me defensive when a woman flirts with me in public. 

I still hold doors, even though I was scolded once for doing so, by a woman who told me she could "hold the door myself, thank you!" 

So I let the door go. It was heavy, and swung fast, and hit her. 

Her screaming at me as I walked off was like music to my ears. I had an ear to ear grin.

I hold doors for everyone. Male or female. 

I can't stand women like this complaining about chivalry being dead. You killed it, took its soul, then shamed it to prevent it from coming back to life.

My wife comes from a different culture, and was a breath of fresh air to the entitlement I see from today's youth. 

The world doesn't owe you a thing.

[Contrarian]

35 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

He glanced over. She needs to learn what a stare is.

She set him up. She had the camera there, deliberately looking for problems. She was hyper confrontational  knowing she would get views for "standing up for herself".

He was non threatening, didn't say a word and his behavior until she confronted him, was non aggressive. Standing up for what? 

You feel entitled to men not looking at you while you remove clothing in the open at a public unisex gym? Go to an all women's gym. 

• You're entitled to a workout free of harassment. That was not harassment. 

If anything, you overreacted, likely to get views.

Should she get kicked out? No. He got butthurt at being shut down, he should have let it slide, and either apologized or not said a word. I would have given her a thumbs up.

Women like this complain they can't find men.

Shocking! 

I think he handled himself very well. 

By the body language and the position of the camera, in my estimation, it was also a setup. 

Personally, if she wants to play this type of game for views, if I were that man, I would have gotten in her game and said:

"Why are you pointing at me, because I am black"?

That would have ruined her whole views and fans as I suspect many of her followers are young girls which grew up in a generation where they don't put up with perceived or real racist behaviors. 

• but he was professional, asked her to be respectful, and then told her to leave. That is a well-balanced man that does not put up with someone's social media tactics. 

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[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

I think he handled himself very well. 

By the body language and the position of the camera, in my estimation, it was also a setup. 

Personally, if she wants to play this type of game for views, if I were that man, I would have gotten in her game and said:

"Why are you pointing at me, because I am black"?

That would have ruined her whole views and fans as I suspect many of her followers are young girls which grew up in a generation where they don't put up with perceived or real racist behaviors. 

• but he was professional, asked her to be respectful, and then told her to leave. That is a well-balanced man that does not put up with someone's social media tactics. 

Being black, I absolutely despise those who pull the race card, but I totally would have there.

"Just because am black, doesn't mean I was threatening you or looking for something. Feel free to workout, but keep the racism for your blog"

I would have given her no further attention beyond that. 

He kept doing so, which means his ego was hurt.

Women like that should be ignored.

Attention and conflict seeking, then play the V card or the water works when called out.

 

[Perspektiv]

Both are in the wrong, however in my opinion.

[Contrarian]

39 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Being black, I absolutely despise those who pull the race card, but I totally would have there.

I don't have the race card but did play the other card. Do you know when I pulled the sensitivity card? 

Was on public transit and offered a woman a seat, I am downtown big city, a liberal city.

The disgusting look and the way she replied back, I said to myself, time to reply: 

and I looked straight at her and said: "I was raised in Eastern Europe, I was taught to respect women and offer a seat from very small, why are you not being culturally sensitive towards me?", I said in such a passive-aggressive way, that she mumbled something and proceeded to put my headphones back on.

Is that misogynist of me, @Goddess ? Still work in progress, we can't all change at the same rate. 

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[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Was on public transit and offered a woman a seat, I am downtown big city, a liberal city.

I think it would be awkward to offer a woman a seat, unless she was elderly or pregnant. 

But what happened to "no thanks"?

I think this woke generation is making the world a worst place, as it is filling it with insanely narssissistic youth who think the world owes them something.

She probably felt her womanhood assaulted, by your barbaric attempt at machismo in feeling she was too weak to stand up.

People like her should stick to Twitter, or whatever other form of useless activism.

[Contrarian]

13 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

1. I think it would be awkward to offer a woman a seat, unless she was elderly or pregnant. 

2. But what happened to "no thanks"?

1. Is cultural, in my culture if you go somewhere and you don't give priority, the other men might give you some sort of punishment. 

2. Exactly, you see that scenario, if she would have looked at me and said: "I am perfectly fine to stand, thank you" I would have got the message and probably even would have got the looks. The way it ended, not sure who won the public perception on that one. It was a tie, but she could have won it. 

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[Americana Antifa]

She was rude, but he overreacted.

[Perspektiv]

On 3/20/2023 at 9:14 PM, Americana Antifa said:

She was rude, but he overreacted.

That's not being rude, she deliberately was looking for a fight, so that she could record it under guise of fighting for women's rights.

She wasn't rude. She was incredibly calculated.

The way she confronted him, isn't normal. She only did so, because she knew it was being recorded.

She deserves all the backlash that she got.