Canadian Catholic student arrested for saying men are different from women.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Is it not the case though, that these terms also evolve over time? - liberal, conservative etc.

2. There are neoliberals, neoconservatives. Surely there are neomarxists, neocommunists. Which basically means very similar trappings as the older word, but some differences.

3. The youth have a saying, " This machine kills all fascists".

4. One time I asked the guy, "Sounds good! Does that include communists as well?"

1.  I'm not sure that such terms do, really.  But I'm open to it.  
2. Yeah, those are newer terms though and maybe that answers your #1.  Some of those terms aren't used really.
3. Woody Guthrie actually.
4. I like to think about what things will be like in 100 years, not 1.

[OftenWrong]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not sure that such terms do, really.  But I'm open to it. 

Of course they do. They change with the attitudes of people. What is considered liberal today would be called ultra-liberal some years ago.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Of course they do. They change with the attitudes of people. What is considered liberal today would be called ultra-liberal some years ago.

I don't think I have heard the term 'ultra liberal'....  I don't think I have used liberal, conservative, far-right, far-left differently in the last 40 years.  
liberal/conservative are general adjectives, both used outside of politics
far-right is ultranationalist, or supremacist ideology
far-left says nationalize and seize assets for the state
 

[Americana Antifa]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They are saying that and it is TOTALLY erasing history.

Give me some examples of mainstream leftists or liberals that want to erase Lincoln from history. Not simply remove one statue, but actually want to ban the teaching of Lincoln like the way Republicans want to ban the teaching of anything related to civil right movements.

Quote

The left Hates america (and canada) as it is today. But - you can't exactly replace it with their socialist utopia if everyone still thinks its a great country.

This is such a weak-ass argument. Literally everyone wants to change their own country and the world in some ways. Conservatives will say "You hate America, you want to change it!" but then go ahead and make changes the moment they have the power to do so. If you thought Canada was perfect, you wouldn't want to replace any of the laws or policy.

If anything, I would say authoritarians like you hate western countries because you want to fundamentally change their foundations. America and Canada were built on western values, which you oppose. Sure, I want to change America and Canada too, but I want to make them more democratic, which means I want to expand upon the values that built them.

 

[Americana Antifa]

9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You make things up, like this business of a poster saying Jews are funding BLM or something.  You just pulled that out of the air.  You call moderate people Nazis and fascists and fail to see the log in your eye on radical left violence.  You’re no better than a right wing radical, but what’s worse is that you call everyone who is moderate a radical. 

I'm familiar enough with right-wing dog whistles to know when someone is using nazi or fascist talking-points.

And not only do I not call moderate people nazis or fascists, but I even said that a few Republicans, like Mitt Romney, aren't fascist.

But I get it, you have to lie, since you can't defend your own fascism.

[Americana Antifa]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Wow.  Lie harder.

For conservatives it is about smaller gov't.  Smaller gov't. less taxes,  more rights, less gov't interference in our lives.  That's what we like.

I know, right? Conservatives want to legalize drugs, prostitution, abortion, because they understand that adults can do what they want with their own bodies.

Oh, no wait, those are the imaginary conservatives that don't actually exist. When the Right says "small government" or "freedom" what they really mean is less government regulation that helps the working-class. Are the people of East Palestine more free now that a train derailment destroyed their town all because Trump deregulated the train industry? Of course not, because those regulations exist to maximize our freedom and standard of living. 

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The left wing, being much more authortarian, is the one who's fond  of big gov't.

Yeah, that's why leftists tried to steal the 2020 election and create a dictatorship. 😆

[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Chris Harrison – The longtime host of ABC’s “The Bachelor” franchise decided to “step aside” after defending current contestant Rachael Kirkconnell when old photos surfaced of her attending an Old South antebellum party. “While I do not speak for Rachael Kirkconnell, my intentions were simply to ask for grace in offering her an opportunity to speak on her own behalf,” Harrison explained. “What I now realize I have done is cause harm by wrongly speaking in a manner that perpetuates racism, and for that I am so deeply sorry.”

I looked into this and apparently very few people were actually calling for him to be fired, the network just wanted him off the show because it was causing bad publicity.

Personally, I wouldn't have fired him, but this is just how business works. If someone is making the brand look bad, they get fired. This isn't "cancel culture," this is just a business making a business decision.

To put things into perspective, right now conservatives are trying to get a Youtuber named David Pakman cancelled by calling his advertisers and demanding that they stop advertising on Pakman's show, or else they'll organize a boycott of their products. That's an actual insane mob trying to get someone cancelled. And it's not just some fringe randos. Sean Hannity, Marjorie Greene, and Don Jr have been encouraging this.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Adam Rubenstein — The former New York Times opinion editor and writer resigned from the paper in December, six months after its staff went into an uproar over a piece he edited by Sen. Tom Cotton. The column by Arkansas Republican argued for the federal government to “send in the troops” to quell violence in cities throughout the country in response to civil unrest following the death of George Floyd. Former editor Mari Weiss wrote on Twitter about the resignation: “Adam was hung out to dry by his own colleagues. Then he and his work were lied about, including in this mendacious editor’s note.”

First, there wasn't a huge call by an angry mob to get him cancelled. It was his own staff that got him fired.

Secondly, some people actually do deserve to be deplatformed or at least fired. Rubenstein is one of them. Tom Cotton's take was insane, especially in a time where Trump was legit having peaceful protesters tear gassed. I wish in cases like this, leftists were more active in trying to get people deplatformed.

 

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Gina Carano — The “Mandalorian” actress was fired by Disney after posting on social media that being a Republican in 2021 was similar to being Jewish during Nazi Germany. Her Hollywood agent dropped her, and Hasbro scrapped her “Star Wars” action figures.

Good. Again, there wasn't a mob calling for her to be fired, but I'm glad she was deplatformed.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Matthew Yglesias — The liberal opinion writer resigned from Vox, a publication he co-founded, after many of his woke colleagues found his articles too right of center. Mr. Yglesias argued against defunding the police this summer and took aim at the liberal term “Latinx” as alienating many people from progressive politics and the Democratic Party. He has since joined Substack, so he can voice his opinions more freely.

So he resigned. Once again, there was no mob calling for him to be fired!

Are you noticing a pattern here?

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Zac Kreugman  — Data scientist for Reuters news fired for criticizing the Black Lives Matter movement in the company’s internal communications forum, debunking Reuters’s own biased reporting, and violating a corporate taboo. Driven by what he called a “moral obligation” to speak out, Kriegman refused to celebrate unquestioningly the BLM narrative and his company’s “diversity and inclusion” programming; to the contrary, he argued that Reuters was exhibiting significant left-wing bias in the newsroom and that the ongoing BLM protests, riots, and calls to “defund the police” would wreak havoc on minority communities. 

So not only were there no mass calls from the public for Zac Kriegman to be fired, but all of the claims on him being fired were according to him. We don't actually know why he was fired. Even if you want to take him at his word, this was yet another case of a business firing someone who hurt the brand, not someone who was "cancelled."

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Donald McNeil Jr. — Veteran New  York Times reporter forced out after 150 employees demanded his head. His crime? McNeil, 67, went as a representative of the Times on a 2019 trip with American high school students in Peru. There, according to his farewell note to colleagues—which, tellingly, was the first time the context of his career-ending comments had ever been reported during the 8-day life cycle of this journalism-world controversy—McNeil "was asked at dinner by a student whether I thought a classmate of hers should have been suspended for a video she had made as a 12-year-old in which she used a racial slur. To understand what was in the video, I asked if she had called someone else the slur or whether she was rapping or quoting a book title. In asking the question, I used the slur itself."

Like the last case, this is all according to McNeil himself, plus even if you take him at his word, there were no public calls for him to be fired.

If your definition of "cancel culture" is just people getting fired for stupid reasons, that's always been a thing and it's done all across the political spectrum. The reason I say only the Right engages in cancel culture is because the term generally refers to the public trying to ruin someone's career forever, usually a celebrity, over a minor infraction. 

Even worse, only the Right tries to legally ban speech that it doesn't like. That goes way further than just deplatforming.

[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Well, to begin with, I don't believe the US Republicans are conservatives. So your explanations falter there. There is nothing conservative about Trump or his supporters. And the Republican party is now mostly about catering to the moneymen who fund their campaigns. 

My dude. Trumpism is just conservatism on crack. 

Consider two things. First, a movement or ideology is defined by its population. If 95% of people that identify as conservative are reactionary authoritarians, than that's just what it means to be conservative. When Trump went full fascist and just tried to end our democracy, he lost very little support. The few "principles conservatives" do not define conservatism, rather the 95% do.

Secondly, throughout history, people identifying as "conservative" have always leaned towards authoritarianism based on how much they could get away with within a liberal democracy. Conservatives wanted to make it so only people who owned land could vote. When this view became too unpopular, they relented to only white men could vote. Even the electoral college, which is insanely anti-democratic, was always supported by the Right. Conservatives were against freeing the slaves, ending segregation, having a Catholic president, letting Catholics into the country in general, they were against women voting, gay marriage, and now they're against trans rights. This movement was founded on maintaining hierarchy in the face of democracy and it never stopped being like that.

Is Trump worse than any other conservative president we ever had? Yes, no question. But only because past presidents didn't know how far they could go without losing support. Trump, being a retard, doesn't know any better, so he just does what he wants. And he ended up proving that the vast majority of the Right like his fascism and insanity. 

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Both parties in the US are corrupt. Both sides call for book bans. And ANTIFA is well known for its violence.

Both parties are corrupt, but the GOP is infinitely more corrupt, and the Democrats are not fascist. Democrats aren't trying to ban books.

Antifa is only known for its violence because the media focuses on the 1% of violent incidents, just like with BLM.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Also, the US Republican Party is not the focus of conservatism. There are actual conservative parties elsewhere in the world.

And look what's happening. Now that Trump normalized fascism in America, the single most influential country, fascism is on the rise in Europe. Other right-wing leaders, like the Republicans, see that they can go far-right and not lose much support. Again, the Right is as fascist as they feel they can get away with. This is why the fascists in Austria and Italy haven't gone as far as the fascists in Hungary and Belarus.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

But they don't acknowledge policing as corrupt. They only say it is racist. A black man gets knelt on and dies and there's wall-to-wall coverage across America for months. A white man gets knelt on and dies and crickets chirp. The police who did it are not only not charged, they're not fired. And no one cares.

Now that I do agree with. The media wants people to think systemic racism is the issue so we don't realize the real problem is capitalism. This is why a lot of cases of white people getting killed by cops goes ignored.

However, I disagree with the media claiming all cops are bad. The narrative is always that policing is corrupt and the good cops are unwilling to speak against the bad cops, due to the culture of the thin blue line.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yeah, right-wing media doesn't ignore mass shooters, nor defend people who murder LGBT people (examples?)

When the Q Club was shot up, right-wing media was not only claiming that the LGBT community brought this on themselves, but pundits like Tim Pool were lying and saying that the club was having a "grooming event." This is like legit psychopath shit.

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Not about transgenderism, you're not. This is the only forum I know where if I say that there are only two genders and a man can't be a woman I won't get permanently banned. And needless to say, you'll face disciplinary measures if you say something like that at work or school. In fact, we recently saw a high school student suspended from his school for the entire term for saying that very thing.

There's a difference between asking questions in good faith and just trolling. When you say "there are only two genders and a man can't be a woman," you're not asking question to learn about what pro-trans people believe. You're just trying to start a flame war. And really, in a political climate we're in now, can you blame people for not wanting to deal with this shit? This is like trolling Muslims in China days before the genocide began. I really don't blame anyone for not wanting to engage in bad faith bullshit.

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[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Care to show where on the conservative documents that this is stated? Page 6? 

I may need to get Volume two, if not in the main one.

My dude, look at their media. They're completely disconnected from reality.

Remember DeSantis' human trafficking stunt? When the migrants got there, all of Martha's Vinyard came out to feed and cloth them. DeSantis was hoping that the people there were just as racist as his own supporters, but he was wrong. But conservatives are anti-reality, so they all just pretended that the liberals were outraged. The entire right-wing establishment lied, even as other media was showing videos of the migrants being welcomed.

I could list example after example, but come on, the face of the Right is Donald Trump. You know damn well these people don't care about truth.

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats a horrible example. You are comparing a person who is responsible for over 5, 000 US deaths by act of terrorism, to one who abolished slavery. 

Again, nobody had a problem with Lincoln. They didn't like the statue because of how the slave was depicted. They didn't want to erase history, they wanted to change one statue.

The example I used wasn't to say Lincoln was like Bin Laden. I'm saying that people don't want statues to celebrate bad things. 

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Who is saying they are being celebrated, and not just remembered?

Statues are built to celebrate things. That particular community didn't want to use a statue to depict a slave in that condition. I'm not even saying I agree with the decision. I just acknowledge that this isn't erasing history, it's just erasing one statue. Erasing history would be banning the teaching of slavery, which is what Republicans are trying to do.

Instead of being concerned about a statue being taken down, maybe be concerned about authoritarian laws that are banning the teaching of history in schools.

8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Explain Lia Thomas to me. She was obliterating records. Explain that one to me. Just luck?

Lia Thomas is competing in college competitions, not in professional sports that have strict rules on which trans people can compete. I don't know how long she's been on hormones for, if she's even on hormones, or if she started before or after puberty. In the Olympics and other professional settings, these things are all taken into account.

[Perspektiv]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

the face of the Right is Donald Trump

In the US.

I hope you do realize that conservative views differ vastly from one country, to the next.

You just maybe should specify what media you are eluding to. 

Otherwise you need to demonstrate how globally that all conservatives are represented by Donald Trump.

6 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Again, nobody had a problem with Lincoln.

Do you think before you post? 

11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Statues are built to celebrate things.

Sure. Don't you think the abolition of slavery should be celebrated?

13 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

That particular community didn't want to use a statue to depict a slave in that condition.

So, to twist the reality. Censor history. Slavery wasn't pretty. This was depicted with this statue. I don't understand the problem.

15 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

maybe be concerned about authoritarian laws that are banning the teaching of history in schools.

How is defacing history different?

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I don't know how long she's been on hormones for

She met requisites. Over a year and a half. 

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

if she's even on hormones

She was. See above.

17 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

or after puberty

After, hence the uproar by girls who worked their entire lives, no longer able to compete. Only several had the guts to publicly voice their displeasure, as the fear of killing their careers made the remainder remain quiet.

This is your view of equality. Women being silenced.

The sad part to me, is you so blind to your alliances not realizing how you sound no different than a Donald Trump supporter. Same level of bias. I hear more left and right hate from you, than sticking to the point of debate. 

Someone lucid, will debate my points. You're just as separated from reality and common sense. You just happen not to wear a MAGA hat.

[Michael Hardner]

The like is for the understanding that Trump doesn't represent true conservatives.

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

I'm familiar enough with right-wing dog whistles to know when someone is using nazi or fascist talking-points.

And not only do I not call moderate people nazis or fascists, but I even said that a few Republicans, like Mitt Romney, aren't fascist.

But I get it, you have to lie, since you can't defend your own fascism.

You’re the most extremist poster on here.  By seeing Nazis and fascists everywhere without being able to explain what’s Nazi of fascist about them, you reveal much more about your own misguided beliefs than anyone else’s.  Having said that, there are enough people with similar immature perspectives as yours to explain why guest speakers are shouted off campuses and it feels like the Cultural Revolution in most workplaces and government organizations today.  You have the judgemental self-assurance of the inquisitor who thinks she can assess a person singlehandedly without evidence and mete out punishment unaccountably.

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[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Give me some examples of mainstream leftists or liberals that want to erase Lincoln from history. Not simply remove one statue, but actually want to ban the teaching of Lincoln like the way Republicans want to ban the teaching of anything related to civil right movements.

Removing even one statue IS attempting to erase lincon. It's LITERALLY trying to erase him - as in  we'll just scrub him off the face of the earth here... 

Sorry - it's like saying "Just because hitler killed SOME jews doesn't mean he wanted to kill ALL jews".

And republicans are quite happy to have the civil rights move ment taught.  show me one single republican who says they want ALL civil rights movement history banned.

 

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

This is such a weak-ass argument. Literally everyone wants to change their own country and the world in some ways

There is a massive massive difference between  " I want to take what we have and make changes to improve it" and "I want to tear down everything we have and rebuild it from scratch into my vision of utopia"

Your response shows you KNOW you're wrong.

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Conservatives will say "You hate America, you want to change it!" but then go ahead and make changes the moment they have the power to do so. If you thought Canada was perfect, you wouldn't want to replace any of the laws or policy.

Republicans would never say that.  Republicans, as you note ,make positive changes all the time.  Republicans WOULD asy that YOUR desire to tear down america entirely and rebuild a socialist state is a result of your hatred of America. And they'd have a point - wanting to destroy something is pretty much a  solid indication you're not a fan.

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

If anything, I would say authoritarians like you hate western countries because you want to fundamentally change their foundations.

You're talking to the mirror again i see   The authortarian fascist left are the ones who want to fundimentally change america,

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

America and Canada were built on western values, which you oppose.

No.. still you.

And this is a constant tactic we see from the left - Accuse others of what you're doing to cover your tracks. If you're a facscist call yourself an Anti-fascist for example.

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Sure, I want to change America and Canada too, but I want to make them more democratic, which means I want to expand upon the values that built them.

You HATE democracy.  You wish you could end democracy and force others to do what you believe in. THat's why you cancel people.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

I know, right? Conservatives want to legalize drugs, prostitution, abortion, because they understand that adults can do what they want with their own bodies.

They pretty much do in canada. As much as the liberals anyway, who went to the courts to block gay marriage, refused outright to legalize hookers and who despite being in power for 10 years did nothing about abortion at all. 

Swing and a miss kiddo

Oh and both parties members supported making dope legal and both don't want to make more legal. the NDP doesn't support more legalization either other than 'safe supply' funding.

So you completely missed

But yea - they kind of support ideas like free speech. Which the left hates. Freedom of religion Which the left hates. Freedom to own property. Which the left REALLY hates. Freedom of movement which the left is not excited about.

And - seeing as we're talking about 'bodies' and 'choices' - the left ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTS FORCING medical treatments on people.  I happen to be pro vaccine and got all mine, but i would never force someone to do that. You would.

So tell me all about how you care about rights.

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Oh, no wait, those are the imaginary conservatives that don't actually exist. When the Right says "small government" or "freedom" what they really mean is less government regulation that helps the working-class.

We like that as well. 

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Are the people of East Palestine more free now that a train derailment destroyed their town all because Trump deregulated the train industry? '

Are the people of Lac-Megantic who died any more free now that a train that was HEAVILY gov't regulated destroyed their town?

What a dumb thing to say. Accidents happen, regulation or not. It's dumb to suggest that without regulation people WANT accidents to happen .

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Yeah, that's why leftists tried to steal the 2020 election and create a dictatorship. 😆

Just like trump stole the 2016 one with the help of the russians ?   LOLOL  - we heard THAT for 4 years didn't we

[Perspektiv]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trump doesn't represent true conservatives.

It bothers me to no avail, that some believe he does. What he represents, is the growing anger in the US with far left policies. He saw the anger, and fanned the flames for his benefit. Those feeling that anger that believe in him, don't realize that he doesn't care about you. He cares about himself and people like him.

He in no way shape or form, represents the governing principles that guide a true conservative.

Heck he doesn't even remotely embody the professionalism and principles for the position he swore to uphold.

[Zeitgeist]

One of my favourite commentators right now says it quite powerfully:

 

[Contrarian]

11 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

One of my favourite commentators right now says it quite powerfully:

 

I have been following your posts brother @Zeitgeist. Smart man you are, yet YOU CHOSE TO COMPROMISE with any low life because, why?! They talk strong. 

I also check the number of issues you started. How come, you as a complainer, does not take steps to combat all of this? ! Like reading a columb about a stuck religious man in 2023. I would read that, heck would even promote it. 

So time for you to decide, do you chose tribalism and swear at me same as the other lowlives or you plan to use the high IQ you have for the greater good?!!

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[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I have been following your posts brother @Zeitgeist. Smart man you are, yet YOU CHOSE TO COMPROMISE with any low life because, why?! They talk strong. 

I also check the number of threats you started. How come, you as a complainer, does not take steps to combat all of this? ! Like reading a columb about a stuck religious man in 2023. I would read that, heck would even promote it. 

So time for you to decide, do you chose tribalism and swear at me same as the other lowlives or you plan to use the high IQ you have for the greater good?!!

I try to avoid tribalism. I take each argument on its merit, no matter who says it or what political affiliation the poster has.  I think there are more excesses on the left because I see a mischaracterization of what conservatives are trying to do by sticking to biology on gender (in terms of significant differences and accommodations), keeping sexuality out of primary education, and preventing new forms of racism that categorize people primarily by superficial traits like skin colour rather than character, talent, etc.

 I was very critical of Trump, but I can still point to a few positive things that he tried to do in terms of reeling in China, keeping the US out of wars, and supporting free speech.

I worry about the go along to get along enablers of ridiculous policies.  I see this in folks like Hardner and others who call themselves conservatives but won’t take a stand on conservative values.  At least be what you claim to be.  I was never especially conservative but shifted that way because I’m watching the left destroy basic rights like free speech.  They used to claim to follow science, yet clearly that’s become secondary to what someone feels.  

[Contrarian]

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I try to avoid tribalism.

Is time reasonable forces in society, forget their base idealism and tribalism <-> and ANY fight against the irrationality from the left, and any side realy.. <---

Imagine that, you a religious man and me, an agnostic Stoic united in a vote to drive the Liberals out because of their approach. 

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[Zeitgeist]

50 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Is time reasonable forces in society, forget their base idealism and tribalism <-> and ANY fight against the irrationality from the left, and any side realy.. <---

Imagine that, you a religious man and me, an agnostic Stoic united in a vote to drive the Liberals out because of their approach. 

Religious people and scientists can come together on respecting nature.  I also think that heavy central planning has proven to be a failure.  Social justice warriors used to talk about subsidiarity and keeping decisions local, which I support.  It’s somewhat libertarian actually.  Instead we have big interventionist government, global central planning, and stakeholder capitalism, which is a quasi-fascist marriage between corporations and government.

Trudeau is basically a puppet of the UN and ESG strategists at the WEF.  When you don’t value the hard work of past generations and the traditional cultures of a people, you get the Liberal Party of Canada’s Post-National State and an ethos reminiscent of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.

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[Contrarian]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Religious people and scientists can come together on respecting nature. 

Yes, I agree 100 %. Is time people come together. You see, I do not like you because of your religious views, YET, I am ready any day to stand against manipulations towards CA and US.

I think that is a middle ground we can find.

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[I am Groot]

8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Are you noticing a pattern here?

Yes, you making excuses and redefining what cancelling means.

8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

If your definition of "cancel culture" is just people getting fired for stupid reasons, that's always been a thing and it's done all across the political spectrum. The reason I say only the Right engages in cancel culture is because the term generally refers to the public trying to ruin someone's career forever, usually a celebrity, over a minor infraction. 

Cancel culture is being fired or otherwise punished for social or political opinions and statements that no normal person would consider extreme or even wrong.

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[I am Groot]

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

My dude. Trumpism is just conservatism on crack. 

Trump has never been a political ideologue. I doubt he understands or could even spell the term. He has no politics but whatever benefits him personally.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 When Trump went full fascist and just tried to end our democracy, he lost very little support. T

Because of a dishonest right-wing media which felt it would make more money by adhering to his views. I've watched FOX now and then, for as long as I can stand, and anyone who uses that or the even worse versions out there for their news is absolutely not getting any real picture of reality.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Secondly, throughout history, people identifying as "conservative" have always leaned towards authoritarianism based on how much they could get away with within a liberal democracy.

Liberal democracy is far too new to have much of a history. Authoritarianism comes from both directions.Trudeau is certainly authoritarian-minded, and even more or less confessed as much in his admiration for China's 'basic dictatorship' and how efficient it was.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives wanted to make it so only people who owned land could vote.

Because only those who owned land paid the taxes which supported the government. And the reasons are best expressed in the following quote.

Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives were against freeing the slaves, ending segregation, having a Catholic president, letting Catholics into the country in general, they were against women voting, gay marriage, and now they're against trans rights. This movement was founded on maintaining hierarchy in the face of democracy and it never stopped being like that.

Conservatism is about conserving traditions, values and beliefs. And so it is often slow to change. The corollary is that left, esp today's left, are far too fast to want change without knowing where change is going. Conservatives understand it's far easier to break something than to make something. Much like your enthusiasm for replacing Capitalism with Socialism. Capitalism works and you really have no idea if Socialism will work given it never has anywhere else. But you don't care.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

And look what's happening. Now that Trump normalized fascism in America, the single most influential country, fascism is on the rise in Europe.

More like it's on the rise due to the inability of the EU to control its borders. David Frum said the following in 2019

 If liberals insist that only fascists will enforce borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals refuse to do.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Now that I do agree with. The media wants people to think systemic racism is the issue so we don't realize the real problem is capitalism. 

No, the problem is inadequate training, counselling and oversight.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

There's a difference between asking questions in good faith and just trolling. When you say "there are only two genders and a man can't be a woman," you're not asking question to learn about what pro-trans people believe.

Why should I care what trans people believe? Why should I not be able to make a statement about what I believe? Certainly, you do this all the time, with scant evidence to support your positions.

I believe gender dysmorphia is a real thing afflicting a tiny number of people. They have my sympathy and should get medical help. I also believe the great majority of trans activists and those claiming to be trans are not legitimately suffering from gender dysmorphia and probably know it. Thus their insistence that there be no questioning and no need for evidence. They are, for the most part, suffering from a variety of emotional and psychological problems, or are teenagers simply engaging with the current fad.

[Americana Antifa]

13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re the most extremist poster on here.  By seeing Nazis and fascists everywhere without being able to explain what’s Nazi of fascist about them,

Bullshit. I only call out fascism or nazism when I see it. If someone is arguing against democracy and using reactionary talking-points, then they're being fascist. I don't know if they honestly believe in fascism, I can't look inside their mind, but if they're arguing in favor of fascism, that's good enough to label them as such.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Bullshit. I only call out fascism or nazism when I see it.

You must own a lot of mirrors

Here's a hint - if you see facism and nazis EVERY SINGLE place you look - then it's not fascism or nazis.