Canadian Catholic student arrested for saying men are different from women.

[Perspektiv]

43 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

You hate woke, but can't define what makes something woke.

Woke used to be an awareness of social issues. Growing up for me, it meant more specially, an in depth awareness regarding racial injustices. 

Tupac Shakur comes to mind. He had a very in depth awareness of the issues within the black community. 

What truly made him woke in my opinion, was his awareness of all the lies he had been told, as well. 

IE he had realized he had been raised to hate the police, but recognized he had only been shot, robbed and assaulted from the hands of his own community.

So he wasn't reciting talking points. 

Many of today's woke, enforce social justice behind computer screens. Are angry on the behalf of others. 

I saw BLM marches, where there were white people in cities like Baltimore, destroying businesses that in some cases, belonged to black people. This is what many view as the type of woke person who has to educate others all the time, but really don't know much about anything. 

This is the derogatory SJW version of the woke movement. Extremely loud, angry, but really doing or accomplishing nothing. 

I don't hate woke people. 

Its just hard for many to take woke people serious, when they sound like the above.

I had a friend that if you would talk hockey and mentioned Patrick Roy's 500 some wins, they would have to correct you with an exact number, including the playoffs. 

I don't mind correction, but at this level, it's more of a "okay, work on your social skills first and activism second...."..

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

So again, case by case basis.

There still is an unfair advantage, unless you strictly stipulate one can't compete unless they have not undergone puberty. This would be deemed as discriminatory, as you're essentially stating that some trans women as an example, are more women than others. 

I get your point, but to me, you either allow all trans people who have undergone hormone blockers for a set time frame, or none. None is more sensible, when factoring unintended consequences. 

[I am Groot]

On 3/27/2023 at 1:05 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I don't continue reading if I find something that's total nonsense.

What did you find nonsensical about my post?

On 3/27/2023 at 1:05 PM, Michael Hardner said:

If I started my post with "Since you are a far-right extemist... " or "Since Poilievre is a Nazi..." I really wouldn't expect you to read the rest.  It's just a waste of time if that's the foundation of the following points.  

Perhaps true but I didn't insult you at all so I'm not certain why you bring such examples up.

[I am Groot]

On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

So the Republicans are authoritarian, we apparently can agree on that. Would you also agree that hysterical hatred against LGBT people is reactionary?

And silly. Though I would also say that things like drag queens reading to children is largely being done to be deliberately provocative against the right wing. And much of the transgender debate seems similar and hysterical on both sides. The fanaticism of the pro-transgender side is beyond the pale, especially with the constant threats of violence and rape against women who object.

On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

The NY Post is far-right and prints fake news.

No, it's not. It's certainly conservative, but it's not 'far right', though of course, that's a subjective description. You can't simply label everything that's on the right side of the political spectrum 'far right' and have any reasonable discussion. Further, there are such mountainous positions staked out by the major media these days that you simply will not read about something that goes too strongly against the agenda they're pushing, or toubles their narrative too much. Stories like this rarely or never appear in centrist or left wing media, any more than you'll read or see news features on large groups of black flash mobs pillaging stores, malls, fairgrounds and the like. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Give me some examples of left-wing media doing a story about a culture war non-issue the way right-wing media does literally every day.

That's not how it works. What the right-wing media does is expose and condemn the excesses of the Left. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses. Likewise, you'll find the mainstream media largely ignoring police shootings of White people (especially if the police are Black) but wallowing in stories of police shooting Black people.

Which is why, in this case, ESPN, owned by Disney, will include a male-bodied individual crushing smaller, weaker female opponents in a celebration of womens history month.

Edited March 29 by I am Groot

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

1. What did you find nonsensical about my post?

2. Perhaps true but I didn't insult you at all so I'm not certain why you bring such examples up.

1. "Academia is almost entirely governed, guided and controlled by the far Left.  "    The "far left" to me is anyone who is devoted to anything left of Democratic Socialism.  Traditionally, Marxists, Leninists, Maoists and so on.  And as Slavoj Zizek asked Jordan Peterson - "Who are these Marxists you are talking about ?".  Peterson couldn't even answer, of course, because he talks out his ass.  But I wouldn't attribute all academia to being like him based on his behaviour/comments.

  You're talking about social progressivism but it's such am amorphous phenomenon that it defies assessment.  Is someone who believes in same-sex marriage far left ?  I can't begin to figure it out.l
 
2. Not the insult part, just the nonsense part.  Obviously you're dealing with a cracked actor so why continue and invest time ?

I value your posts, and don't have you on ignore but it's hard to tie an argument to trendy culture war talking points, sorry.  So I just blip by them.  I afforded you to respect to tell you so rather than just ignore it.

[Michael Hardner]

40 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

1. Though I would also say that things like drag queens reading to children is largely being done to be deliberately provocative against the right wing.
2. And much of the transgender debate seems similar and hysterical on both sides.  
3. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses. 

1. I don't think that was the case initially but it certainly seems so now.  We came upon a drag show reading at a park, and my kid seemed interested so we stopped awhile then moved on.  I don't think it was announced.  I wouldn't want to bring my kid to an announced event in this climate.
2. It depends on the arena.  There are lots of places where reasonable discussion happens.  But there's no incentive, lately, for people to be reasonable.
3. Liberal media or left-wing ?  Left-wing media that focuses on progressive issues only ?  I can only think of Xtra or The Adovcate which are LGBTQ magazines...

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

wow - you sound EXACTLY like those who support vaginal circumcision.  They claim that's for the health of the girl as well, and it's nuts that people WOULDN'T"T allow this. 

Most responsible people agree that permanently altering a child for sexual purposes is a very very questionable act.  A normal person realizes that it could be abuse.

You're pro mutilation i assume? you use the same arguments.

 

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Woke used to be an awareness of social issues. Growing up for me, it meant more specially, an in depth awareness regarding racial injustices. 

Many of today's woke, enforce social justice behind computer screens. Are angry on the behalf of others. 

So this is a common righty talking-point. It basically goes that the civil rights movements of the past were good, but the ones of today are bad. And then they'll say "woke" a lot.

The truth is that literally everything conservatives are saying today were said back then too. All of the lies about BLM being violent, even though the vast majority of their marches are peaceful, that was said back then too. Most "woke" people just being virtue-signaling white people, that was also used back then.

No, they're not "angry on behalf of other people." They see injustice and want to fix it. I want to end transphobia. The fact that some trans people, like Blaire White, like transphobia because she profits off of it means nothing. She's wrong.

And really, you can tell this talking-point is bullshit because of how inconsistent it is. If I'm against transphobia, I'm "angry on behalf" of trans people. If I want to end classism but I'm not rich myself, then it's that I'm just angry at rich people. It's a bad faith point that conservatives use to deflect.

This is also why Republicans never define "woke." They can't openly admit that they're against justice. So they just say they hate woke. That's why nobody can define woke anymore, it's lost all meaning.

 

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

This is the derogatory SJW version of the woke movement. Extremely loud, angry, but really doing or accomplishing nothing. 

And then when people in office try to pass bills that would help with injustice, the Republicans vote against it because it's "woke." 

It's not that you think "woke" people are lazy. You vote against them doing things.

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I get your point, but to me, you either allow all trans people who have undergone hormone blockers for a set time frame, or none. None is more sensible, when factoring unintended consequences. 

Sports leagues already test people on a case by case basis to see if they qualify. Why make the rules different for trans people? 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

[Americana Antifa]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And silly.

Alright, so the Republicans are authoritarian, reactionary, and silly. I completely agree.

Now, considering that fascism is essentially reactionary authoritarianism, am I wrong in saying that the modern GOP is fascist?

I understand that words like "fascist" and "nazi" are thrown around a lot, but don't let that make you dismissive when someone actually is acting like a fascist or a nazi.

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No, it's not. It's certainly conservative, but it's not 'far right', though of course, that's a subjective description.

The NY Post literally just did this:

 

This is verfickt insane. Again, don't be dismissive when someone actually is acting like a nazi. This is exactly what the original nazis did to demonize Jews. If one Jew murdered someone, they would run front page stories on it for weeks with headlines like "JEWISH MURDERER STRIKES!" When it comes to mass shootings in America, cis men are way overrepresented. But you'll never see a headline like "YET ANOTHER CIS MAN KILLS SEVERAL CHILDREN!"

I do kind of agree with one thing, though. Since the Right in America has become so extreme, there really is no more moderate-right and far-right. In America, the far-right is the Right.

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That's not how it works. What the right-wing media does is expose and condemn the excesses of the Left. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses.

What I'm saying is that the "excesses" are culture war nonsense, like the green M&M not being sexy, Lego including handicapped characters, Mr Potato Head getting "cancelled," and so on.

Left-wing media and even liberal media does not do this. And the reason is because Republicans have no economic policies that are popular. They do the culture war idiocy to distract from real politics and the fact that they're trying to eliminate democracy.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

All of the lies about BLM being violent, even though the vast majority of their marches are peaceful,

ROFLMAO - this has got to be the biggest lie the left tells.  "OUR PROTESTS ARE MOSTLY PEACEFUL!"

This concept is that if someone is peaceful 23 hours in a day but then murders 12 people in the last hour then the person isn't violent because he's "mostly peaceful".  True - most of the time he was peaceful - but he's still  a violent person

BLM is a violent organization.  Much violence has been done by their followers and supporters. Billions of dollars in damage has been done. They are NOT peaceful

But they will insist that blm is MOSTLY peaceful.  At the same time - trump supporers are evil violent people because of one even, while most of the demonstrations that day were peaceful.

Hypocrisy - thy name is "lefties". 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning/

[Americana Antifa]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Of course it's a group. You're suggesting that it's not a formalized group. But your use of the word "we" shows there's more than one person and therefore it's a group. A group does not have to be formalized to be a group.

You're hiding behind semantics. You believe that Antifa is a group with formalized membership funded by Jews.

I'm saying it's not and you can't prove your conspiracies about it.

I must say, the original nazis would be disappointed in you. They lied to the public too, but at least they were honest in private. You're too much of a puss to even be honest here.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Alright, so the Republicans are authoritarian, reactionary, and silly. I completely agree.

Now, considering that fascism is essentially reactionary authoritarianism, am I wrong in saying that the modern GOP is fascist?

I understand that words like "fascist" and "nazi" are thrown around a lot, but don't let that make you dismissive when someone actually is acting like a fascist or a nazi.

The NY Post literally just did this:

 

This is verfickt insane. Again, don't be dismissive when someone actually is acting like a nazi. This is exactly what the original nazis did to demonize Jews. If one Jew murdered someone, they would run front page stories on it for weeks with headlines like "JEWISH MURDERER STRIKES!" When it comes to mass shootings in America, cis men are way overrepresented. But you'll never see a headline like "YET ANOTHER CIS MAN KILLS SEVERAL CHILDREN!"

I do kind of agree with one thing, though. Since the Right in America has become so extreme, there really is no more moderate-right and far-right. In America, the far-right is the Right.

What I'm saying is that the "excesses" are culture war nonsense, like the green M&M not being sexy, Lego including handicapped characters, Mr Potato Head getting "cancelled," and so on.

Left-wing media and even liberal media does not do this. And the reason is because Republicans have no economic policies that are popular. They do the culture war idiocy to distract from real politics and the fact that they're trying to eliminate democracy.

The republicans are not facists.   OR nazis

And printing a news story with the absolute truth is not what hitler did. Sorry.

If a white nationalist targeted a black church you'd be fine with the headline "White Nationalist targets black community".

A transgender killer targeted a christian school. That's the truth.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

You're hiding behind semantics. You believe that Antifa is a group with formalized membership funded by Jews.

ROFLMAO!!!!!  When did I EVER say that

If anyone here is playing a semantics game it's you.  "Oh - antifa isn't a TECHNICAL group, we're just a non-group group that's a group but not a group! Also - jews for some reason".

So apperently we can add anti-semite to your list of personality faults.  Pretty common for the left these days.

 

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

I'm saying it's not and you can't prove your conspiracies about it.

You already admitted it was a group. "WE" blah blah.

Wikipedia thinks you're involved in a group. It says that antifa is made up of decentralized groups. So - you're literally in a group of groups. You're not just in a group, you're like group Squared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

Sorry - i know you thought you were being all clever and were going to have some sort of gotcha  - but you blew it.

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

I must say, the original nazis would be disappointed in you.

 

Sure - i like jews, hate authoritarianism and fascism, believe in truth, and have no problem calling out scumbags who support violent fascists groups while pretending to be anti fascist. Of course they'd hate me.

The Nazis would have loved you tho.

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

They see injustice and want to fix it.

Kind of like those trying to cancel the past? Trying to cancel freedom of speech? Liberalism encapsulates the rule of law. You mean those who try to destroy it? Feeling society has to be destroyed in order to rebuild it, without a care of who gets destroyed along with it (such as the communities you're so called fighting for)?

Logic, is understanding the past, learning from it, and growing from it. Trying to erase it because its offensive, doesn't fix anything. This is the SJW I'm eluding to.

If this is not you, all the power to you. Keep using your voice. If you are the above, then you are part of a privileged group of youth with zero life experience, and a megaphone yet zero understanding of how a wise man knows when to pick their battles.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Blaire White, like transphobia

How does she like transphobia? What is the level of transphobia that she has demonstrably liked? Please elaborate.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

You vote against them doing things.

Care to present an example?

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Why make the rules different for trans people? 

Because they're different? In sports where speed, reflexes or physicality give you an edge, a biological male has zero business competing with biological women in competitive sports beyond a certain age. Period. If this is the "transphobia" you're trying to end, you need to start by stopping the use of calling any facts refuting your opinions as transphobic. Words like woke and transphobic have lost their meaning, as they're used to silence opposition.

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Alright, so the Republicans are authoritarian, reactionary, and silly. I completely agree.

Now, considering that fascism is essentially reactionary authoritarianism, am I wrong in saying that the modern GOP is fascist?

I understand that words like "fascist" and "nazi" are thrown around a lot, but don't let that make you dismissive when someone actually is acting like a fascist or a nazi.

The NY Post literally just did this:

 

This is verfickt insane. Again, don't be dismissive when someone actually is acting like a nazi. This is exactly what the original nazis did to demonize Jews. If one Jew murdered someone, they would run front page stories on it for weeks with headlines like "JEWISH MURDERER STRIKES!" When it comes to mass shootings in America, cis men are way overrepresented. But you'll never see a headline like "YET ANOTHER CIS MAN KILLS SEVERAL CHILDREN!"

I do kind of agree with one thing, though. Since the Right in America has become so extreme, there really is no more moderate-right and far-right. In America, the far-right is the Right.

What I'm saying is that the "excesses" are culture war nonsense, like the green M&M not being sexy, Lego including handicapped characters, Mr Potato Head getting "cancelled," and so on.

Left-wing media and even liberal media does not do this. And the reason is because Republicans have no economic policies that are popular. They do the culture war idiocy to distract from real politics and the fact that they're trying to eliminate democracy.

The Republicans are now also mostly left of centre, like our Conservatives.  You’re just a radical Marxist-Nihilist. Transhumanism is an assault on humanity because it puts ego and tech above nature and all else.

Mutilating children, violating women’s private spaces, and taking away women’s athletic opportunities is not progressive.

Each individual is a human worthy of basic human decency.  No one should harass a trans person, and I think that there are reasonable ways to accommodate for washrooms and provide athletic opportunities.  Stop pretending to see fascists and Nazis where reasonableness exists.  Your positions are the most authoritarian I’ve seen in a while.

Hardner has blown it on this thread, backing a radical and helping further destabilize society.  I don’t know how you dare call yourself conservative.  You’re far left.  

Edited March 30 by Zeitgeist

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sure you don't understand most things.

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO - this has got to be the biggest lie the left tells.  "OUR PROTESTS ARE MOSTLY PEACEFUL!"

This concept is that if someone is peaceful 23 hours in a day but then murders 12 people in the last hour then the person isn't violent because he's "mostly peaceful".  True - most of the time he was peaceful - but he's still  a violent person

So I know it's hard for nazis to understand individuality, especially when race is involved, but BLM is a movement made up of individual people. So it's more like, if literally millions of people marched in the name of a cause, and a hundred of them riot, that doesn't represent the vast majority of the people associated with that cause.

This is how stupid the Right is. You would see Fox play videos of riots on loop 24/7 and assume that's what every march turned into.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

BLM is a violent organization.  Much violence has been done by their followers and supporters. Billions of dollars in damage has been done. They are NOT peaceful

I know you think BLM is an organization with membership cards funded by Jews. You think the same thing about Antifa, since that's what your nazi memes say. But like with Antifa, there were marches all across the country that people just called BLM. BLM is a movement, not an organization.

[Americana Antifa]

14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Republicans are now also mostly left of centre, like our Conservatives. 

Oh, verpiss dich. 🤣

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The republicans are not facists.   OR nazis

If you want to get technical, they're probably not truly ideological fascists or nazis. However, they're willing to use fascism in order to get power, since they can't win elections democratically. They even do a lot of dog whistling to nazis.

Today's GOP is all about reactionary authoritarianism, which is fascism. Whether or not they honestly want fascism is beside the point. If all of their politics are fascist, then I'm comfortable calling them fascists. Hermann Göring didn't really believe in nazism, but he went along with it for his career and became one of the most powerful nazis. So I feel that calling him a nazi is accurate.

 

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And printing a news story with the absolute truth is not what hitler did. Sorry.

The nazis lied, but if a Jew committed a crime, they would use it to portray all the Jews as being just like this one Jew. That's what the NY Post did by saying "transgender killer," even though the killer being trans had nothing to do with the story. Most mass shooters are cis men, but notice they never say "cis killer."

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If a white nationalist targeted a black church you'd be fine with the headline "White Nationalist targets black community".

Oh, FFS. Yes, because in that instance, the white nationalism is relevant. But when that actually did happen, right-wing media lied and pretended the killer was targeting Christians. And the reason they did that is because they know that a lot of their viewers are white nationalists.

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO!!!!!  When did I EVER say that

If anyone here is playing a semantics game it's you.  "Oh - antifa isn't a TECHNICAL group, we're just a non-group group that's a group but not a group! Also - jews for some reason".

Who do you believe funds Antifa?

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

You already admitted it was a group. "WE" blah blah.

Wikipedia thinks you're involved in a group. It says that antifa is made up of decentralized groups. So - you're literally in a group of groups. You're not just in a group, you're like group Squared.

Again, semantics. You know that I was saying you're wrong for thinking Antifa is a centralized organization, as opposed to what it really is, a movement that's been around since the thirties.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The Nazis would have loved you tho.

 

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I'm sure you don't understand most things.

True - i only understand logic, reason and facts.  The world you live in is largely foreign to me.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So I know it's hard for nazis to understand individuality,

ROFLMAO -  SAYS THE GIRL WHO LITERALLY THINKS "ALL" CONSERVATIVES ARE LESSER PEOPLE!!!  And who CONTINUALLY makes broad statements about them!!  LOL !

Tell me you're a complete hypocrite without telling me

 

24 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

especially when race is involved, but BLM is a movement made up of individual people. So it's more like, if literally millions of people marched in the name of a cause, and a hundred of them riot, that doesn't represent the vast majority of the people associated with that cause.

The indivduals are still partaking in that activity knowing there will be violence and they tolerate it and accept it. That's still guilty ESPECIALLY in the US where accessories to crimes are just a guilty as those who commit them.

I get that you lefties really like to try to excuse your violence - but there's no excuse. Sorry.

24 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

This is how stupid the Right is. You would see Fox play videos of riots on loop 24/7 and assume that's what every march turned into.

This is how stupid the left is. You would watch cities burning and pretend nothing happened and even if it did it's just the right exaggerating.

Sorry - you're part of a violent and destructive group.

24 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I know you think BLM is an organization with membership cards funded by Jews.

 

What is it with you and Jews? What do you have against the jews that you keep bringing them up and trying to make them responsible for this.

Seriously - why does the left hate the jews so much? Is it an authortarian thing? What did they ever do to you?  Your hate speech really isn't appropriate here.

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Kind of like those trying to cancel the past? Trying to cancel freedom of speech? Liberalism encapsulates the rule of law. You mean those who try to destroy it? Feeling society has to be destroyed in order to rebuild it, without a care of who gets destroyed along with it (such as the communities you're so called fighting for)?

I'm going to assume you're being good faith here, but I'm very much on the fence. Still, I'll answer as if you're being serious.

So if you look hard enough, you'll find fringe people in any ideological population. The way you tell what an ideological movement actually believes is by looking at their representatives, which are usually elected officials and popular activists. Some fringe gang of randos that knocks over a statue shouldn't be used as an example, because we don't know if other people who agree with them on economics would agree with their vandalism. It would be like learning one of them is a Hindu and then saying all Hindus believe in knocking over statues.

Understand, yes? 

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Logic, is understanding the past, learning from it, and growing from it. Trying to erase it because its offensive, doesn't fix anything. This is the SJW I'm eluding to.

But only the Right is trying to erase the past. There are no Democrats trying to ban the teaching of history they don't like. Republicans are the only ones doing that. Republicans are also the ones banning books.

Do you understand why it's so hard to take the anti-woke thing seriously? The Republicans are literally banning the teaching of slavery, banning any book that has anything to do with queer people, and the "anti-woke" crowd is saying the Left is fascist because some random-ass SJW wants to censor a comedian.

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

How does she like transphobia? What is the level of transphobia that she has demonstrably liked? Please elaborate.

Blaire White regularly does fake news videos that make trans people look bad. She basically markets herself as the one good trans person, much like Candace Owens wants to be the one good black person. I used to think Blaire White was just stupid, but she's done this a bunch of times now, so it's probably on purpose.

https://www.advocate.com/transgender/transgender-2659396280

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Because they're different? In sports where speed, reflexes or physicality give you an edge, a biological male has zero business competing with biological women in competitive sports beyond a certain age. Period. If this is the "transphobia" you're trying to end, you need to start by stopping the use of calling any facts refuting your opinions as transphobic. Words like woke and transphobic have lost their meaning, as they're used to silence opposition.

But if we're already judging who gets to participate on a case by case basis, and you accept that some trans people will not have an advantage, why not just continue to have it be a case by case basis?

Edited March 30 by Americana Antifa

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

However, they're willing to use fascism in order to get power,

No, that would be the left.  The left is about repressing those that disagree. The left is all about hate speech as you yourself have proven again and again, the latest example being against the jewish community TWICE now. The left is about passing laws attacking others and demanding that those who disagree are lesser humans, as you have done.

Sorry - the left is more fascist than the right these days.

Not that the right in the us are angels - but they're definitely less fascist.

19 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

The nazis lied, but if a Jew committed a crime, they would use it to portray all the Jews as being just like this one Jew.

So - just like saying that all conservatives are lesser people. 

Wow. They really WOULD have liked you.

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Again, semantics.

No, again truth. I never said antifa was a centralized org. I never even suggested it. That was your little brain assuming you know what every "conservative" thinks and the fact is you don't.  Antifa is a group, no matter how you slice it.

Your brain just strips it's gears when you're confronted with proof that the world isn't the same as your echo-chamber told you.

[Perspektiv]

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Some fringe gang of randos that knocks over a statue shouldn't be used as an example, because we don't know if other people who agree with them on economics would agree with their vandalism.

Not the only example, but it was widely agreed upon, even with the softened language describing the vandalism that occurred multiple times in various cities.

Like I said, its widely accepted to remove or cancel something because you're offended by it. It doesn't matter that what you removed, is a beacon of hope stemming from someone who ended slavery. Activists wanted a slave to be portrayed with dignity, ignoring the times where they were seen as subhuman. This was a statue created in the late 1800's. Just the sheer lack of logic to keep the times in mind, or just maybe, the artist wanted to depict reality with their art, considering the gravity of the moment.

Wanting to see history in a way that doesn't offend you, is delusional at best. History is offensive.

Sorry, but vandalizing statues that offend you, is precisely the level of "activism" that rightfully so, gets ridiculed by using "woke" in a derogatory manner.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

But only the Right is trying to erase the past.

I've presented you evidence of otherwise. I can present more, if you would like.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Blaire White regularly does fake news videos that make trans people look bad.

Sorry, but Eli Erlick has done a wonderful job at making themselves look bad.

I wouldn't be worried about the suicide being fabricated--the elephant in the room, was if their victim was abused or not. If they had been, the lack of suicide is irrelevant, in my opinion.

2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

and you accept that some trans people will not have an advantage

Only trans people without an advantage across the board, are male trans individuals. You don't see such people scrambling for athletics positions. I wonder why.

Biological men, have zero business competing against biological women in sanctioned or competitive sports. No exceptions.

Its already hard enough for women to make a living playing sports--last thing they need, is to have whatever scraps they have, removed by people who aren't even biological women.

That's not equality. Its erasing women, or what women used to be for 99.9% of human history.