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3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

I know, right? Conservatives want to legalize drugs, prostitution, abortion, because they understand that adults can do what they want with their own bodies.

They pretty much do in canada. As much as the liberals anyway, who went to the courts to block gay marriage, refused outright to legalize hookers and who despite being in power for 10 years did nothing about abortion at all. 

Swing and a miss kiddo :)

Oh and both parties members supported making dope legal and both don't want to make more legal. the NDP doesn't support more legalization either other than 'safe supply' funding.

So you completely missed :)

But yea - they kind of support ideas like free speech. Which the left hates. Freedom of religion Which the left hates. Freedom to own property. Which the left REALLY hates. Freedom of movement which the left is not excited about.

And - seeing as we're talking about 'bodies' and 'choices' - the left ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTS FORCING medical treatments on people.  I happen to be pro vaccine and got all mine, but i would never force someone to do that. You would.

So tell me all about how you care about rights.

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Oh, no wait, those are the imaginary conservatives that don't actually exist. When the Right says "small government" or "freedom" what they really mean is less government regulation that helps the working-class.

We like that as well. 

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Are the people of East Palestine more free now that a train derailment destroyed their town all because Trump deregulated the train industry? '

Are the people of Lac-Megantic who died any more free now that a train that was HEAVILY gov't regulated destroyed their town?

What a dumb thing to say. Accidents happen, regulation or not. It's dumb to suggest that without regulation people WANT accidents to happen .

3 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Yeah, that's why leftists tried to steal the 2020 election and create a dictatorship. ?

Just like trump stole the 2016 one with the help of the russians ? :)  LOLOL  - we heard THAT for 4 years didn't we :)

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21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trump doesn't represent true conservatives.

It bothers me to no avail, that some believe he does. What he represents, is the growing anger in the US with far left policies. He saw the anger, and fanned the flames for his benefit. Those feeling that anger that believe in him, don't realize that he doesn't care about you. He cares about himself and people like him.

He in no way shape or form, represents the governing principles that guide a true conservative.

Heck he doesn't even remotely embody the professionalism and principles for the position he swore to uphold.

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6 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I have been following your posts brother @Zeitgeist. Smart man you are, yet YOU CHOSE TO COMPROMISE with any low life because, why?! They talk strong. 

I also check the number of threats you started. How come, you as a complainer, does not take steps to combat all of this? ! Like reading a columb about a stuck religious man in 2023. I would read that, heck would even promote it. 

So time for you to decide, do you chose tribalism and swear at me same as the other lowlives or you plan to use the high IQ you have for the greater good?!!

I try to avoid tribalism. I take each argument on its merit, no matter who says it or what political affiliation the poster has.  I think there are more excesses on the left because I see a mischaracterization of what conservatives are trying to do by sticking to biology on gender (in terms of significant differences and accommodations), keeping sexuality out of primary education, and preventing new forms of racism that categorize people primarily by superficial traits like skin colour rather than character, talent, etc.

 I was very critical of Trump, but I can still point to a few positive things that he tried to do in terms of reeling in China, keeping the US out of wars, and supporting free speech.

I worry about the go along to get along enablers of ridiculous policies.  I see this in folks like Hardner and others who call themselves conservatives but won’t take a stand on conservative values.  At least be what you claim to be.  I was never especially conservative but shifted that way because I’m watching the left destroy basic rights like free speech.  They used to claim to follow science, yet clearly that’s become secondary to what someone feels.  

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50 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Is time reasonable forces in society, forget their base idealism and tribalism <-> and ANY fight against the irrationality from the left, and any side realy.. <---

Imagine that, you a religious man and me, an agnostic Stoic united in a vote to drive the Liberals out because of their approach. 

Religious people and scientists can come together on respecting nature.  I also think that heavy central planning has proven to be a failure.  Social justice warriors used to talk about subsidiarity and keeping decisions local, which I support.  It’s somewhat libertarian actually.  Instead we have big interventionist government, global central planning, and stakeholder capitalism, which is a quasi-fascist marriage between corporations and government.

Trudeau is basically a puppet of the UN and ESG strategists at the WEF.  When you don’t value the hard work of past generations and the traditional cultures of a people, you get the Liberal Party of Canada’s Post-National State and an ethos reminiscent of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.

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8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Are you noticing a pattern here?

Yes, you making excuses and redefining what cancelling means.

8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

If your definition of "cancel culture" is just people getting fired for stupid reasons, that's always been a thing and it's done all across the political spectrum. The reason I say only the Right engages in cancel culture is because the term generally refers to the public trying to ruin someone's career forever, usually a celebrity, over a minor infraction. 

Cancel culture is being fired or otherwise punished for social or political opinions and statements that no normal person would consider extreme or even wrong.

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7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

My dude. Trumpism is just conservatism on crack. 

Trump has never been a political ideologue. I doubt he understands or could even spell the term. He has no politics but whatever benefits him personally.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 When Trump went full fascist and just tried to end our democracy, he lost very little support. T

Because of a dishonest right-wing media which felt it would make more money by adhering to his views. I've watched FOX now and then, for as long as I can stand, and anyone who uses that or the even worse versions out there for their news is absolutely not getting any real picture of reality.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Secondly, throughout history, people identifying as "conservative" have always leaned towards authoritarianism based on how much they could get away with within a liberal democracy.

Liberal democracy is far too new to have much of a history. Authoritarianism comes from both directions.Trudeau is certainly authoritarian-minded, and even more or less confessed as much in his admiration for China's 'basic dictatorship' and how efficient it was.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives wanted to make it so only people who owned land could vote.

Because only those who owned land paid the taxes which supported the government. And the reasons are best expressed in the following quote.

Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservatives were against freeing the slaves, ending segregation, having a Catholic president, letting Catholics into the country in general, they were against women voting, gay marriage, and now they're against trans rights. This movement was founded on maintaining hierarchy in the face of democracy and it never stopped being like that.

Conservatism is about conserving traditions, values and beliefs. And so it is often slow to change. The corollary is that left, esp today's left, are far too fast to want change without knowing where change is going. Conservatives understand it's far easier to break something than to make something. Much like your enthusiasm for replacing Capitalism with Socialism. Capitalism works and you really have no idea if Socialism will work given it never has anywhere else. But you don't care.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

And look what's happening. Now that Trump normalized fascism in America, the single most influential country, fascism is on the rise in Europe.

More like it's on the rise due to the inability of the EU to control its borders. David Frum said the following in 2019

 If liberals insist that only fascists will enforce borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals refuse to do.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Now that I do agree with. The media wants people to think systemic racism is the issue so we don't realize the real problem is capitalism. 

No, the problem is inadequate training, counselling and oversight.

7 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

There's a difference between asking questions in good faith and just trolling. When you say "there are only two genders and a man can't be a woman," you're not asking question to learn about what pro-trans people believe.

Why should I care what trans people believe? Why should I not be able to make a statement about what I believe? Certainly, you do this all the time, with scant evidence to support your positions.

I believe gender dysmorphia is a real thing afflicting a tiny number of people. They have my sympathy and should get medical help. I also believe the great majority of trans activists and those claiming to be trans are not legitimately suffering from gender dysmorphia and probably know it. Thus their insistence that there be no questioning and no need for evidence. They are, for the most part, suffering from a variety of emotional and psychological problems, or are teenagers simply engaging with the current fad.

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13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re the most extremist poster on here.  By seeing Nazis and fascists everywhere without being able to explain what’s Nazi of fascist about them,

Bullshit. I only call out fascism or nazism when I see it. If someone is arguing against democracy and using reactionary talking-points, then they're being fascist. I don't know if they honestly believe in fascism, I can't look inside their mind, but if they're arguing in favor of fascism, that's good enough to label them as such.

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8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yes, you making excuses and redefining what cancelling means.

Cancel culture is being fired or otherwise punished for social or political opinions and statements that no normal person would consider extreme or even wrong.

That's not how Cancel Culture was defined a few years ago, but I guess conservative had to redefine it since they didn't have any left-wing examples.

But alright, if we're going by your definition, everyone does cancel culture regardless of politics. However, only the right-wing establishment tries to get people fired on a regular basis. And, more importantly, only right-wing politicians want to ban certain books and speech. "Freedom of speech" does not mean the right to a platform, it means the government can't arrest you for speech. So only Republicans are trying to end freedom of speech.

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15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

In the US.

I hope you do realize that conservative views differ vastly from one country, to the next.

Yes, I was referring to conservatism in America. If you want to look at other examples, every fascist party in Europe has at least most conservative support in its respective country. Angela Merkel, a right-leaning moderate, was constantly demonized as a "Marxist" by conservatives in Germany. In East Germany, which is much more right-wing, the AfD does much better than in West Germany. Conservatives will generally accept a right-leaning moderate if the alternative is to the Left of that, but they prefer authoritarianism.

 

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Do you think before you post

Can you try being good faith? You know that when I say "nobody had a problem with Lincoln" I'm talking about the vast majority of left-leaning people. I don't mean literally nobody, since there will always be fringe cases.

Notice how when I say that conservatives want to erase history, I don't point to some rando who posted something on Twitter. I point to Ron DeSantis, an actual elected official who represents the Right, at least in Florida.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Sure. Don't you think the abolition of slavery should be celebrated?

Yes, but I don't blame people for not liking that particular statue.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

So, to twist the reality. Censor history. Slavery wasn't pretty. This was depicted with this statue. I don't understand the problem.

Do you really not understand or do you just not want to? The community wasn't trying to censor history, they weren't saying we should ban the teaching of slavery like Republicans want to. They just didn't like how this one statue was depicting slavery.

I can't believe you're in good faith having a problem with this one case, but don't seem to have a problem with the government actually preventing teachers from educating people about slavery.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

This is your view of equality. Women being silenced.

Did I say they should be silenced? I think it's fine to have the conversation of trans women in sports. I don't care to have it with conservatives because they're lying when they pretend to care about women. But people on this forum have asked me what I think about the topic, I didn't refuse to answer them. It's a fine discussion to have as long as it's being done honestly and I don't think anyone should be silenced over it.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

The sad part to me, is you so blind to your alliances not realizing how you sound no different than a Donald Trump supporter. Same level of bias. I hear more left and right hate from you, than sticking to the point of debate. 

My dude. Did I deflect from anything you said? I am sticking to the topic of the debate.

Also, the trumpian scumbags are lying about hospitals all across the country performing bottom surgery on children. They're not interested in reality, they just want trans people dead.

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11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Bullshit. I only call out fascism or nazism when I see it. If someone is arguing against democracy and using reactionary talking-points, then they're being fascist. I don't know if they honestly believe in fascism, I can't look inside their mind, but if they're arguing in favor of fascism, that's good enough to label them as such.

You don’t even know American history.  You do understand that the Republican Party was the Northern party that freed the slaves?  You do understand that the Democrats were the Southern pro-KKK party that treated Black people as “the poor” who the Democrats would take care of and that this grew up under FDR?  The Democrats now pretend to be the party of equality, but actually they’re the party of equity, which requires having designated weak/victim groups that need help.  It’s paternalistic.  Only the Republicans are closer to the idea that all are created equal, everyone should be treated equally under the law, and justice should be blind.  The Democrats did some good work during the Civil Rights movement.  JFK was good.  I liked Bill Clinton well enough.

Fine if you want to be a Democrat, but don’t call Republicans fascists or Nazis, or if you do, say as much of Democrats.

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13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Removing even one statue IS attempting to erase lincon. It's LITERALLY trying to erase him - as in  we'll just scrub him off the face of the earth here... 

That's absolutely insane. According to this logic, if schools in every state are teaching about Lincoln, but one statue is taken down, we should be worried that Lincoln is being erased from history.

If there actually are people trying to erase Lincoln, and there are always fringe people for everything, their numbers are so small that I'm in no way concerned.

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry - it's like saying "Just because hitler killed SOME jews doesn't mean he wanted to kill ALL jews".

No, it's more like saying the nazis weren't racist because they had black people in their military. You're taking one thing and ignoring everything else. You're ignoring all of the schools teaching about Lincoln in order to say, but what about these randos who don't like a statue?!!

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And republicans are quite happy to have the civil rights move ment taught.  show me one single republican who says they want ALL civil rights movement history banned.

Oh, they would never say that, because they know it's unpopular. That's why Republicans use dog whistles like "woke." But when Ron DeSantis was forced to define "woke" as part of his fascist "Stop Woke Act," he defined it as "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” So basically, when he says "woke," that's what he means. And as a result, Florida schools and libraries have been removing books about Rosa Parks and other civil rights figures.

It's the same thing with the "Don't Say Gay" rule. The bill doesn't actually say "don't say gay," since that would be too unpopular. Since Americans are generally left-leaning, the fascists have to find ways to sneak in their fascism.

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Republicans would never say that.  Republicans, as you note ,make positive changes all the time. 

Liar. I didn't say they make positive changes. I'm against fascism and poverty.

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And this is a constant tactic we see from the left - Accuse others of what you're doing to cover your tracks. If you're a facscist call yourself an Anti-fascist for example.

I know, right? Like, my dude, remember when Hillary Clinton lost an election so the Left tried to end democracy? Crazy times.

It's bad enough you project, but you even project your projection.

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You HATE democracy.  You wish you could end democracy and force others to do what you believe in. THat's why you cancel people.

Who did I cancel?

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1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

That's not how Cancel Culture was defined a few years ago, but I guess conservative had to redefine it since they didn't have any left-wing examples.

But alright, if we're going by your definition, everyone does cancel culture regardless of politics. However, only the right-wing establishment tries to get people fired on a regular basis. And, more importantly, only right-wing politicians want to ban certain books and speech. "Freedom of speech" does not mean the right to a platform, it means the government can't arrest you for speech. So only Republicans are trying to end freedom of speech.

What are you talking about?  We’ve seen Dr. Seuss, Roald Dahl, Harper Lee, J.K. Rowling and other great authors canceled over ridiculous language policing and trigger words taken out of context.  The conservatives are just keeping sexually out of primary education and keeping Marxist and racist identity politics out of public schools. Good. Keep the radicals out of public schools. 

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9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Trump has never been a political ideologue. I doubt he understands or could even spell the term. He has no politics but whatever benefits him personally.

I agree, but that's not that different than past right-wing presidents. If you ignore Trump's personality and just look at his policy, he's a very standard Republican. More subsidies and tax cuts for the rich, more money spent on wars, less welfare for the working-class. Keep the hierarchy as strict as possible while pretending to be about "small government."

Trump has been more hardcore in his push against democracy, but that's only because he's too stupid to understand optics. The history of America has been conservatives trying to balance fascism and optics. Now of course this makes Trump more dangerous, since he's showing Republicans what they need to do to be popular with the base, as well as inviting other loons into the GOP like Marjorie Greene and George Santos. But he's just doing what smarter conservatives have done when they felt they could get away with it. 

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Because of a dishonest right-wing media which felt it would make more money by adhering to his views. I've watched FOX now and then, for as long as I can stand, and anyone who uses that or the even worse versions out there for their news is absolutely not getting any real picture of reality.

Have you been following the Dominion lawsuit? Apparently Fox wanted desperately to move away from Trump, but whenever they would fact-check Trump or admit that he lost the election, they'd lose views. There audience just moved to Newsmax and OAN. This is actually a case of "the tail wagging the dog." Fox was lying about Trump winning because their viewers wanted to hear that. Sure, Fox radicalized their audience, but their audience also radicalized Fox. This is just what conservatism is, anti-reality and fascist.

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Liberal democracy is far too new to have much of a history. Authoritarianism comes from both directions.Trudeau is certainly authoritarian-minded, and even more or less confessed as much in his admiration for China's 'basic dictatorship' and how efficient it was.

Liberal democracy is new, but it has enough of a history that we can see how conservatives, liberals, and leftists all function within liberalism.

What exactly is authoritarian about Trudeau? Is it just that he ordered lockdowns during a global pandemic? If that's it, I think that's pretty understandable, as long as they ended by now. Keep in mind, I'm a socialist, so Trudeau is way to the Right of me. But I don't think he's authoritarian, at least not any more than the average captalist.

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Because only those who owned land paid the taxes which supported the government. 

Even if they had a good reason for it, it's still a huge restriction of democracy. It's closer to being an oligarchy than it is a real democracy when only a tiny part of the population is able to vote. It's definitely an anti-democracy stance.

Besides, authoritarians always have a reason for their authoritarianism. Why should only men be allowed to vote? Well, women are emotional, I don't want them influencing the government!

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy

That is horrible logic and history has shown how wrong it is. Every country that lost its democracy lost it for completely different reasons. Never had anything to do with the public treasury going broke. And really, people are smarter than that. Capitalists say the same thing about co-ops. "The workers will just vote for everyone to make the same amount!" But that never happens.

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Capitalism works and you really have no idea if Socialism will work given it never has anywhere else. But you don't care.

Socialism has never been tried on a national level, but the countries that have come the closest have the highest living standards in the world. And like I mentioned earlier, co-op companies are more successful than capitalist companies.

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More like it's on the rise due to the inability of the EU to control its borders. David Frum said the following in 2019

 If liberals insist that only fascists will enforce borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals refuse to do.

 

Except that's not true. Europe doesn't have nearly as much immigration as (let's be real here) the nazis are saying. Also, most immigration is between European populations.

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Why should I care what trans people believe? Why should I not be able to make a statement about what I believe? Certainly, you do this all the time, with scant evidence to support your positions.

You can. But you were complaining that you can't even ask questions about trans people, then the examples you gave were just troll questions.

Like I said, the Left is generally ok with people asking questions and looking to learn. But if you're just going to join a forum to troll, can you really be triggered when they ban you?

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I believe gender dysmorphia is a real thing afflicting a tiny number of people. They have my sympathy and should get medical help. I also believe the great majority of trans activists and those claiming to be trans are not legitimately suffering from gender dysmorphia and probably know it. Thus their insistence that there be no questioning and no need for evidence. They are, for the most part, suffering from a variety of emotional and psychological problems, or are teenagers simply engaging with the current fad.

Not every trans person has gender dysphoria. And cis people can have gender dysphoria too.

Again, questioning is ok. If you're gonna be a troll, watch out for Thor.

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54 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

That's absolutely insane. According to this logic, if schools in every state are teaching about Lincoln, but one statue is taken down, we should be worried that Lincoln is being erased from history.

It isn't insane in the slightest - it just doesn't fit your echo chamber dogma.

If one school in the state stops teaching anything about lincon - that is an attempt to erase lincon even if the other schools haven't done that yet.

Pretty simple.  The fact that it is not within the hater's ability to actually ACHIEVE their goal doesn't mean thats not what they're doing.

56 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

No, it's more like saying the nazis weren't racist because they had black people in their military

Sorry no. I was right. What you're claiming is just trying to tone the truth down to a level you think you can live with. But it doesn't work that way.

 

57 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Oh, they would never say that, because they know it's unpopular.

Of course they say it - they say it all the time. And it's not unpopular at all. That's just another thing the voices in your head tell you. Republicans actually consider the advances made to be a sign that america is a great nation and will be greater still.

You want to see someone freak out about "Civil rights" - point out that it was the dems who promoted slavery and the Klan was their militant wing ;)  LOL - you'll see some REAL denial at work

59 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Liar. I didn't say they make positive changes.

Well you said they make changes and their changes are positive so ...

59 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

I'm against fascism and poverty.

But you're so GOOD at promoting it!!!

 

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Like, my dude, remember when Hillary Clinton lost an election so the Left tried to end democracy?

I do actually. Remember when the dems created a 'fake dossier' and talked fbi agents into going after trump for three years trying to get him thrown out of office?  Remember when dems refused to acknowledge him as president initially because "I think the russians helped that guy win"? 

Remember when it all was proven false?

Remember like a week ago when hilllary was still publicaly saying the election was stolen from her?

Yep - i remember clearly.  Looks like your memory is selective.

LOL - swing and a miss kiddo.

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1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

don't care to have it with conservatives

You are blinded by your alliances. I couldn't care less of your political alliances.

I gauge you based on your logic. You truly don't realize how divisive and toxic that your rhetoric is. Its no different than Donald Trumps. You can't stop focusing on the right or left. Obsessed with it. Type who would disown a relative for being conservative. Thats small minded.

You're the only poster here, who talks in talking points. 

And for that reason,

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23 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You must own a lot of mirrors :)

Here's a hint - if you see facism and nazis EVERY SINGLE place you look - then it's not fascism or nazis.

I don't. The Democrats suck, but I never calls them fascists or nazis.

Actually, there was only one fascist Democrat in the entire party, Tulsi Gabbard, but then she became a Republican. Funny how she felt like the GOP was a better place for her politics.

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22 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

What are you talking about?  We’ve seen Dr. Seuss, Roald Dahl, Harper Lee, J.K. Rowling and other great authors canceled over ridiculous language policing and trigger words taken out of context.  

See, this is what I mean. Dr Seuss wasn't cancelled. What actually happened is the Seuss corporation decided to stop publishing five books out of their discography of hundreds. These books are super old, most people didn't even know they existed. There was no "woke mob" calling for the books to be banned, it was simply a corporation deciding the books weren't worth publishing anymore. You can actually still buy those books online, it's not like they've been banned.

Now, compare that to Republicans using government force to ban books from public libraries. Which of these two things is authoritarian? A private company making a personal decision about their own content? Or the government banning people from renting out books in libraries and schools?

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The conservatives are just keeping sexually out of primary education and keeping Marxist and racist identity politics out of public schools. Good. Keep the radicals out of public schools. 

Even freedom of speech has its limitations. I agree that porn shouldn't be available in schools or libraries. But saying you can't learn about Marxism in public schools is extremely authoritarian. You're basically saying, I don't agree with this thing, so it should be banned. That's what China does.

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22 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You don’t even know American history.  You do understand that the Republican Party was the Northern party that freed the slaves?  

Yes, that's why I said that conservatives were against freeing the slaves, not Republicans.

 

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The Democrats now pretend to be the party of equality, but actually they’re the party of equity, which requires having designated weak/victim groups that need help.  It’s paternalistic.  Only the Republicans are closer to the idea that all are created equal, everyone should be treated equally under the law, and justice should be blind.  

I don't agree with affirmative action. The Democrats only do shit like that to distract from the fact that we need real systemic change based around class and economics. But to say Republicans care about equality under the law is beyond parody. This is the party that spent years enabling Donald Trump. Yes, both parties are corrupt, but the Republicans are infinitely more corrupt. Plus, when it comes to policy, Democrats walk a line between helping the workers and helping the rich, whereas the Republicans only care about helping the rich.

 

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Fine if you want to be a Democrat, but don’t call Republicans fascists or Nazis, or if you do, say as much of Democrats.

As much as I don't like the Democrats, they're not reactionary or authoritarian, but the Republicans are. And while neither party is run by nazis, the Republicans know that many of their supporters are nazis, so they will dog whistle nazism constantly. They may not be pushing for nazism like they're pushing for fascism, but they are normalizing both.

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