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1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Which group am I supporting that called for violence?

Why it's Antifa

I'm surprised you'd have to ask, Americana .. er... Antifa

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

You're better off just running away now, since this is just another take you won't be able to defend.

Oh look yet another leftie begging me to stop and run away because they've realized their about to look dense. I'm so shocked.
Sorry sweetie - can't cancel me.

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Why are you fascists so anti-reality?

 

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40 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yeah, but if they started taking hormones when they were younger, their bones never get as strong as a male.

That's why I say let it be on a case by case basis.

Yeah they do. A bio male will still be stronger on average even with hormone blockers.

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why it's Antifa

Antifa isn't a group. I know you nazis think we're an organization with membership cards funded by the Jews, but we're not.

See? You were better off quitting earlier.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:


Sorry sweetie - can't cancel me.

Your TV isn't doing "cancel culture" anymore. Now the mantra that you drones are supposed to chant is "woke."

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6 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

That makes sense depending on the situation. But if it's a trans woman who has been on hormones long enough that she no longer has an advantage, I don't see the issue.

If she has gone through puberty, it really won't matter how much hormones she takes. Her reflexes naturally will likely be quicker, bone density, muscle mass etc.

In sports where fractions of a second make a difference, you're not playing on a level playing field. 

This becomes women competing against biological men, regardless how activists want to paint it.

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On 3/27/2023 at 3:58 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Nah, you just find me scary because I remind you that your beliefs are all wrong. I make it harder for you to lie to yourself.

Most people find Antifa scary, because of the lack of logic pushing forward their beliefs. Mostly misplaced hate, and identical talking points. 

Left to their own devices, you get occupations. Riots. 

Most aren't consistent of what they are fighting. "Fascism!"

But ask any to elaborate and be specific, and you would likely get violence.

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8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

But ask any to elaborate and be specific, and you would likely get violence.

This is a common tactic that fascists use. Y'all pretend that other people don't understand what they believe. "They're against fascism, but don't even know what fascism is! They want trans rights, but don't even know what a woman is!"

This is really just projection. You hate woke, but can't define what makes something woke. And on the rare cases that you do, it's super inconsistent. Like they say on Fox, woke is a feeling. ?

Fascists do the same with socialism and communism. You can't define either, you just know that they're both very scary.

 

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8 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

If she has gone through puberty, it really won't matter how much hormones she takes. Her reflexes naturally will likely be quicker, bone density, muscle mass etc.

In sports where fractions of a second make a difference, you're not playing on a level playing field. 

This becomes women competing against biological men, regardless how activists want to paint it.

Lots of trans people go on puberty blocks as kids, then if they still want to transition when they're adults, they go on hormones and sometimes bottom surgery.

So again, case by case basis.

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11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Antifa isn't a group. I know you nazis think we're an organization with membership cards funded by the Jews, but we're not.

Of course it's a group. You're suggesting that it's not a formalized group. But your use of the word "we" shows there's more than one person and therefore it's a group. A group does not have to be formalized to be a group.

Unless by "we" you mean the voices in your head.

So swing and a miss there.

11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

See? You were better off quitting earlier.

Why? It doesn't bother me that you're wrong again. I'm used to it.

11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Your TV isn't doing "cancel culture" anymore. Now the mantra that you drones are supposed to chant is "woke."

Sounds like quite the little fantasy life you've got going in your head.  Unfortunately for you the real world is a little different :)

Three strikes kiddo :)  Yer out it would seem :)

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24 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

If you're retarded, sure.

wow - you sound EXACTLY like those who support vaginal circumcision.  They claim that's for the health of the girl as well, and it's nuts that people WOULDN'T"T allow this. 

Most responsible people agree that permanently altering a child for sexual purposes is a very very questionable act.  A normal person realizes that it could be abuse.

You're pro mutilation i assume? you use the same arguments.

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43 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

You hate woke, but can't define what makes something woke.

Woke used to be an awareness of social issues. Growing up for me, it meant more specially, an in depth awareness regarding racial injustices. 

Tupac Shakur comes to mind. He had a very in depth awareness of the issues within the black community. 

What truly made him woke in my opinion, was his awareness of all the lies he had been told, as well. 

IE he had realized he had been raised to hate the police, but recognized he had only been shot, robbed and assaulted from the hands of his own community.

So he wasn't reciting talking points. 

Many of today's woke, enforce social justice behind computer screens. Are angry on the behalf of others. 

I saw BLM marches, where there were white people in cities like Baltimore, destroying businesses that in some cases, belonged to black people. This is what many view as the type of woke person who has to educate others all the time, but really don't know much about anything. 

This is the derogatory SJW version of the woke movement. Extremely loud, angry, but really doing or accomplishing nothing. 

I don't hate woke people. 

Its just hard for many to take woke people serious, when they sound like the above.

I had a friend that if you would talk hockey and mentioned Patrick Roy's 500 some wins, they would have to correct you with an exact number, including the playoffs. 

I don't mind correction, but at this level, it's more of a "okay, work on your social skills first and activism second...."..

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

So again, case by case basis.

There still is an unfair advantage, unless you strictly stipulate one can't compete unless they have not undergone puberty. This would be deemed as discriminatory, as you're essentially stating that some trans women as an example, are more women than others. 

I get your point, but to me, you either allow all trans people who have undergone hormone blockers for a set time frame, or none. None is more sensible, when factoring unintended consequences. 

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On 3/27/2023 at 1:05 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I don't continue reading if I find something that's total nonsense.

What did you find nonsensical about my post?

On 3/27/2023 at 1:05 PM, Michael Hardner said:

If I started my post with "Since you are a far-right extemist... " or "Since Poilievre is a Nazi..." I really wouldn't expect you to read the rest.  It's just a waste of time if that's the foundation of the following points.  

Perhaps true but I didn't insult you at all so I'm not certain why you bring such examples up.

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On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

So the Republicans are authoritarian, we apparently can agree on that. Would you also agree that hysterical hatred against LGBT people is reactionary?

And silly. Though I would also say that things like drag queens reading to children is largely being done to be deliberately provocative against the right wing. And much of the transgender debate seems similar and hysterical on both sides. The fanaticism of the pro-transgender side is beyond the pale, especially with the constant threats of violence and rape against women who object.

On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

The NY Post is far-right and prints fake news.

No, it's not. It's certainly conservative, but it's not 'far right', though of course, that's a subjective description. You can't simply label everything that's on the right side of the political spectrum 'far right' and have any reasonable discussion. Further, there are such mountainous positions staked out by the major media these days that you simply will not read about something that goes too strongly against the agenda they're pushing, or toubles their narrative too much. Stories like this rarely or never appear in centrist or left wing media, any more than you'll read or see news features on large groups of black flash mobs pillaging stores, malls, fairgrounds and the like. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

On 3/27/2023 at 1:19 PM, Americana Antifa said:

Give me some examples of left-wing media doing a story about a culture war non-issue the way right-wing media does literally every day.

That's not how it works. What the right-wing media does is expose and condemn the excesses of the Left. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses. Likewise, you'll find the mainstream media largely ignoring police shootings of White people (especially if the police are Black) but wallowing in stories of police shooting Black people.

Which is why, in this case, ESPN, owned by Disney, will include a male-bodied individual crushing smaller, weaker female opponents in a celebration of womens history month.

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29 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

1. What did you find nonsensical about my post?

2. Perhaps true but I didn't insult you at all so I'm not certain why you bring such examples up.

1. "Academia is almost entirely governed, guided and controlled by the far Left.  "    The "far left" to me is anyone who is devoted to anything left of Democratic Socialism.  Traditionally, Marxists, Leninists, Maoists and so on.  And as Slavoj Zizek asked Jordan Peterson - "Who are these Marxists you are talking about ?".  Peterson couldn't even answer, of course, because he talks out his ass.  But I wouldn't attribute all academia to being like him based on his behaviour/comments.

  You're talking about social progressivism but it's such am amorphous phenomenon that it defies assessment.  Is someone who believes in same-sex marriage far left ?  I can't begin to figure it out.l
 
2. Not the insult part, just the nonsense part.  Obviously you're dealing with a cracked actor so why continue and invest time ?

I value your posts, and don't have you on ignore but it's hard to tie an argument to trendy culture war talking points, sorry.  So I just blip by them.  I afforded you to respect to tell you so rather than just ignore it.

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40 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

1. Though I would also say that things like drag queens reading to children is largely being done to be deliberately provocative against the right wing.
2. And much of the transgender debate seems similar and hysterical on both sides.  
3. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses. 

1. I don't think that was the case initially but it certainly seems so now.  We came upon a drag show reading at a park, and my kid seemed interested so we stopped awhile then moved on.  I don't think it was announced.  I wouldn't want to bring my kid to an announced event in this climate.
2. It depends on the arena.  There are lots of places where reasonable discussion happens.  But there's no incentive, lately, for people to be reasonable.
3. Liberal media or left-wing ?  Left-wing media that focuses on progressive issues only ?  I can only think of Xtra or The Adovcate which are LGBTQ magazines...

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4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

wow - you sound EXACTLY like those who support vaginal circumcision.  They claim that's for the health of the girl as well, and it's nuts that people WOULDN'T"T allow this. 

Most responsible people agree that permanently altering a child for sexual purposes is a very very questionable act.  A normal person realizes that it could be abuse.

You're pro mutilation i assume? you use the same arguments.

 

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3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Woke used to be an awareness of social issues. Growing up for me, it meant more specially, an in depth awareness regarding racial injustices. 

Many of today's woke, enforce social justice behind computer screens. Are angry on the behalf of others. 

So this is a common righty talking-point. It basically goes that the civil rights movements of the past were good, but the ones of today are bad. And then they'll say "woke" a lot.

The truth is that literally everything conservatives are saying today were said back then too. All of the lies about BLM being violent, even though the vast majority of their marches are peaceful, that was said back then too. Most "woke" people just being virtue-signaling white people, that was also used back then.

No, they're not "angry on behalf of other people." They see injustice and want to fix it. I want to end transphobia. The fact that some trans people, like Blaire White, like transphobia because she profits off of it means nothing. She's wrong.

And really, you can tell this talking-point is bullshit because of how inconsistent it is. If I'm against transphobia, I'm "angry on behalf" of trans people. If I want to end classism but I'm not rich myself, then it's that I'm just angry at rich people. It's a bad faith point that conservatives use to deflect.

This is also why Republicans never define "woke." They can't openly admit that they're against justice. So they just say they hate woke. That's why nobody can define woke anymore, it's lost all meaning.

 

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

This is the derogatory SJW version of the woke movement. Extremely loud, angry, but really doing or accomplishing nothing. 

And then when people in office try to pass bills that would help with injustice, the Republicans vote against it because it's "woke." 

It's not that you think "woke" people are lazy. You vote against them doing things.

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I get your point, but to me, you either allow all trans people who have undergone hormone blockers for a set time frame, or none. None is more sensible, when factoring unintended consequences. 

Sports leagues already test people on a case by case basis to see if they qualify. Why make the rules different for trans people? 

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2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And silly.

Alright, so the Republicans are authoritarian, reactionary, and silly. I completely agree.

Now, considering that fascism is essentially reactionary authoritarianism, am I wrong in saying that the modern GOP is fascist?

I understand that words like "fascist" and "nazi" are thrown around a lot, but don't let that make you dismissive when someone actually is acting like a fascist or a nazi.

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No, it's not. It's certainly conservative, but it's not 'far right', though of course, that's a subjective description.

The NY Post literally just did this:

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This is verfickt insane. Again, don't be dismissive when someone actually is acting like a nazi. This is exactly what the original nazis did to demonize Jews. If one Jew murdered someone, they would run front page stories on it for weeks with headlines like "JEWISH MURDERER STRIKES!" When it comes to mass shootings in America, cis men are way overrepresented. But you'll never see a headline like "YET ANOTHER CIS MAN KILLS SEVERAL CHILDREN!"

I do kind of agree with one thing, though. Since the Right in America has become so extreme, there really is no more moderate-right and far-right. In America, the far-right is the Right.

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That's not how it works. What the right-wing media does is expose and condemn the excesses of the Left. What the Left-wing media does is trumpets and celebrates those excesses.

What I'm saying is that the "excesses" are culture war nonsense, like the green M&M not being sexy, Lego including handicapped characters, Mr Potato Head getting "cancelled," and so on.

Left-wing media and even liberal media does not do this. And the reason is because Republicans have no economic policies that are popular. They do the culture war idiocy to distract from real politics and the fact that they're trying to eliminate democracy.

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15 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

All of the lies about BLM being violent, even though the vast majority of their marches are peaceful,

ROFLMAO - this has got to be the biggest lie the left tells.  "OUR PROTESTS ARE MOSTLY PEACEFUL!" :)

This concept is that if someone is peaceful 23 hours in a day but then murders 12 people in the last hour then the person isn't violent because he's "mostly peaceful".  True - most of the time he was peaceful - but he's still  a violent person

BLM is a violent organization.  Much violence has been done by their followers and supporters. Billions of dollars in damage has been done. They are NOT peaceful

But they will insist that blm is MOSTLY peaceful.  At the same time - trump supporers are evil violent people because of one even, while most of the demonstrations that day were peaceful.

Hypocrisy - thy name is "lefties".  :)

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning/

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5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Of course it's a group. You're suggesting that it's not a formalized group. But your use of the word "we" shows there's more than one person and therefore it's a group. A group does not have to be formalized to be a group.

You're hiding behind semantics. You believe that Antifa is a group with formalized membership funded by Jews.

I'm saying it's not and you can't prove your conspiracies about it.

I must say, the original nazis would be disappointed in you. They lied to the public too, but at least they were honest in private. You're too much of a puss to even be honest here.

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2 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Alright, so the Republicans are authoritarian, reactionary, and silly. I completely agree.

Now, considering that fascism is essentially reactionary authoritarianism, am I wrong in saying that the modern GOP is fascist?

I understand that words like "fascist" and "nazi" are thrown around a lot, but don't let that make you dismissive when someone actually is acting like a fascist or a nazi.

The NY Post literally just did this:

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This is verfickt insane. Again, don't be dismissive when someone actually is acting like a nazi. This is exactly what the original nazis did to demonize Jews. If one Jew murdered someone, they would run front page stories on it for weeks with headlines like "JEWISH MURDERER STRIKES!" When it comes to mass shootings in America, cis men are way overrepresented. But you'll never see a headline like "YET ANOTHER CIS MAN KILLS SEVERAL CHILDREN!"

I do kind of agree with one thing, though. Since the Right in America has become so extreme, there really is no more moderate-right and far-right. In America, the far-right is the Right.

What I'm saying is that the "excesses" are culture war nonsense, like the green M&M not being sexy, Lego including handicapped characters, Mr Potato Head getting "cancelled," and so on.

Left-wing media and even liberal media does not do this. And the reason is because Republicans have no economic policies that are popular. They do the culture war idiocy to distract from real politics and the fact that they're trying to eliminate democracy.

The republicans are not facists.   OR nazis

And printing a news story with the absolute truth is not what hitler did. Sorry.

If a white nationalist targeted a black church you'd be fine with the headline "White Nationalist targets black community".

A transgender killer targeted a christian school. That's the truth.

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1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

You're hiding behind semantics. You believe that Antifa is a group with formalized membership funded by Jews.

ROFLMAO!!!!!  When did I EVER say that :)

If anyone here is playing a semantics game it's you.  "Oh - antifa isn't a TECHNICAL group, we're just a non-group group that's a group but not a group! Also - jews for some reason".

So apperently we can add anti-semite to your list of personality faults.  Pretty common for the left these days.

 

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

I'm saying it's not and you can't prove your conspiracies about it.

You already admitted it was a group. "WE" blah blah.

Wikipedia thinks you're involved in a group. It says that antifa is made up of decentralized groups. So - you're literally in a group of groups. You're not just in a group, you're like group Squared.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

Sorry - i know you thought you were being all clever and were going to have some sort of gotcha  - but you blew it.

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

I must say, the original nazis would be disappointed in you.

 

Sure - i like jews, hate authoritarianism and fascism, believe in truth, and have no problem calling out scumbags who support violent fascists groups while pretending to be anti fascist. Of course they'd hate me.

The Nazis would have loved you tho.

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