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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You're obviously reading something into this that isn't there.

He said some words which were true, although they were contrary to the school's new policy of gaslighting students, then he was banned from school. 

The school took themselves and their high-handed ban so seriously that when he showed up for class he was charged criminally for trespassing. 

Again, did he do anything violent? Did he make any threats? Because if he did, I missed that part, and it was certainly a glaring omission from the Fox article.

Why don't you enlighten instead of just making more baseless accusations?

From what I recall reading the trannies were scared because he has the same opinion as he'd learn in science class, and science is antithetical to leftist dogma, so they claimed that they were afraid of him.

Now the trannies don't have to hear his words, so they aren't dropping dead from anxiety anymore, but the girls still have to share their change rooms with biological males.

Comprende?  

Do you have a cite which shows that he did something violent or made a threat? Or are his beliefs just different from those of the trans? 

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

 

Saying he’s being punished simply for expressing an opinion is LIE and you know it. 

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14 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes men are different with women. Women are more intelligent with bigger hearts with much lower crime rates. If women rule the world there will be no more wars.

I don't understand how there would be less wars. Women tend to be territorial, typically. 

Men on average, tend to score slightly higher on IQ tests than women.

Are vastly better represented as mathematicians, as economists, as Nobel prize winners. I could go for hours, like engineers and the like.

Some would say due to sexism, but why do men tend to score higher on testing? Sexism? Or that men typically tend to be predisposed to love to work on stuff, typically making them better at it.

When you look at geniuses, they tend to be much better represented in men. 

Maybe you're eluding to emotional intelligence? Women tend to score higher regarding empathy.

This shouldn't be a surprise, as instinctively  they tend to be more maternal, which is why they are best represented in roles where helping others is involved like nursing, administration, etc.

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4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

 

Saying he’s being punished simply for expressing an opinion is LIE and you know it. 

Where are you seeing that he blocked people from entering a bathroom and held protests inside the school?

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6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

 

Saying he’s being punished simply for expressing an opinion is LIE and you know it. 

Cite please 

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10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re still lying by omission and leaving out all his unauthorized disruptive protests inside the school including blocking students from entering the bathroom and the many warnings he received  

I never saw that anywhere, you could have just posted a link instead of being snotty.

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On 3/14/2023 at 11:51 PM, CdnFox said:

They can in canada, and this kid comes pretty damn close. 

Name some people who have been arrested in Canada for misgendering someone. Not for trespassing or whatever, but literally just because they misgendered someone.

On 3/14/2023 at 11:51 PM, CdnFox said:

Uhhh -this already was tested in an ontario human rights trial  and he was right. ALSO - even before that institutions were using it to threaten students, saying they would have them charged under that provision. Read up on the Lindsey Shepard case. She was threatened with charges under that provision just for showing a debate peterson had on tv with another professor organized by the universities to her class.

Again, the bill prevents discrimination based on gender identity. Shepard got in trouble for being transphobic in a setting where transphobia is banned the same way racism is banned. However, she didn't get arrested. You're allowed to be transphobic, you just can't express transphobia in certain areas, usually on public property like a school. She also would have gotten in trouble for playing a video with sexism or religion-based hatred.

And by the way, it's the same in America. We don't have hate speech laws, but we're not allowed to discriminate or be racist/transphobic/sexist/ableist/ect in a public setting. We're also not allowed to discriminate based on gender identity.

On 3/14/2023 at 11:51 PM, CdnFox said:

This is the old logical fallacy of "hitler had a cat. You have a cat. You must be like hitler".   Nope. People all over the world note the same issues with socialism and communism, and he notes issues with the current version that simply woudn't have existed back in the nazi days.

The Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory is not just that Marxism is bad. It's the theory that Marxists are secretly using the media and academia to promote homosexuality, feminism, atheism, and trans identity in order to destroy western society. This is based on an earlier conspiracy theory, that was popular among Nazis, called "Cultural Bolshevism" in which the Jews are behind the conspiracy, whereas with Cultural Marxism it's just heavily implied.

So yeah, Peterson may not be a Nazi himself, but he's promoting a Nazi conspiracy theory that has led his audience to Nazism.

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On 3/16/2023 at 4:20 PM, I am Groot said:

Our society discriminates against people based on these things all the time. In particular, our society and every level of government discriminate between males and females due to the obvious biological and anatomical differences between them. As it should.

Depends what kind of discrimination we're talking about. If you don't have sex with men because you're a straight man, that kind of discrimination is fine. But if you refuse to hire a woman for a job solely because she's a woman, that is pretty lame. And it is illegal in most countries with anti-discrimination laws.

On 3/16/2023 at 4:20 PM, I am Groot said:

Pretending some guy who says he's now a girl is a woman, based on a weird new interpretation of that word does not in any way, shape or form invalidate the simple biology that they are not female.

Can y'all please open a book sometime? Trans people are not new. Recognizing the difference between sex and gender is not new. Right-wing media told you that you hate trans people now, but that doesn't mean it was always like this. For most of history, people were identified based on how they presented. 

On 3/16/2023 at 4:20 PM, I am Groot said:

Bullshit. The Left need to stop flinging that word around for everything they don't like.

Cultural Marxism is literally based on Cultural Bolshevism, a popular Nazi theory about the Jews secretly trying to destroy western society by promoting degeneracy. It's pretty much the exact same theory, but the anti-semitism is less explicit.

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On 3/15/2023 at 4:34 AM, Contrarian said:

Now I know your goal is here to agitate. ?

It's ok, you won't succeed. Have more information for you. I found this within 1 minute: 

  • In 2020, a man named Michael Reinoehl shot and killed a far-right activist named Aaron Danielson during a protest in Portland. Reinoehl, who was killed by police a few days later, had identified as Antifa and had participated in previous protests in the city.
  • In 2019, an Antifa activist named Willem Van Spronsen was killed in a confrontation outside an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Washington. Van Spronsen had thrown Molotov cocktails at the building and was armed with a rifle.

 

Ya know what, I'll give you the Reinoehl case. Personally, based on what I've read about that, I think it was self-defense. But okay, that murder was linked to Antifa. However, the FBI admitted that this was the first case in 26 years where an anti-fascist was charged with murder. So even with this 2020 case, we're talking about the exception, not the rule.

Van Spronsen didn't kill anyone, in self-defense or otherwise.

On 3/15/2023 at 4:34 AM, Contrarian said:

I am sure I can find more and more. 

  • Also, I don't really care about the theory and how you think Karl Marx's writings sound. What matters is how his theories worked in practicality. It created the same damage as organized religion. All you need to do, to see that, is come out of your radical bubble and look at the numbers. 

But that's the point. His theories weren't actually tried in the Soviet Union, China, East Germany, or any of these other countries. It was just fascism dressed up with socialist imagery.

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14 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Name some people who have been arrested in Canada for misgendering someone. Not for trespassing or whatever, but literally just because they misgendered someone.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/man-arrested-for-discussing-childs-gender-in-court-order-violation/

There's that guy.

And of course plenty have been threatened - i told you about the Sheppard case.

But i'm sure you'll try to claim somehow those or any others i post don't count because 'reasons', it's getting pretty questionable if you really care about the truth. We'll see

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Again, the bill prevents discrimination based on gender identity. Shepard got in trouble for being transphobic in a setting where transphobia is banned

That is a blatant lie.  And the school got sued over it and lost. She didn't do anything wrong and the school authorities immediately acknowledged that when she went public  The president of the university herself appologized and said that should never have happened.

Remember what i've told you - if you have to lie to make a point you probably don't have a very good point.

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 However, she didn't get arrested.

They threatened her with it.  That was part of the whole deal and was a big component of her complaint.

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

The Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory is not just that Marxism is bad. It's the theory that Marxists are secretly using the media and academia to promote homosexuality, feminism, atheism, and trans identity in order to destroy western society. This is based on an earlier conspiracy theory, that was popular among Nazis, called "Cultural Bolshevism" in which the Jews are behind the conspiracy, whereas with Cultural Marxism it's just heavily implied.

Sounds like you're just making bullshit up to be honest. And if anything the 'boshavists' were more of the gay haters than the nazi's.

16 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

So yeah, Peterson may not be a Nazi himself, but he's promoting a Nazi conspiracy theory that has led his audience to Nazism.

Nope - still calling bullshit there. Show me the interview where he says that it's specifically marxist to use the media to spread blah blah blah.  I will bet you can't.

Your problem is that you have no credibility. For the things i know about in detail, i can see you're frequently blatantly falsifying the facts.

SO when you talk about something i don't know that well, it's impossible to take anything you say seriously . It seems just as likely you're lying there.

Like - claiming Lindsey was being transphobic? That is beyond dense. She played a segment of a university sponsored discussion between two university professors which was sanctioned by the university discussing the very subject she was going over with the class and EVERYONE agreed SHE presented it in a completely neutral fashion.

So i know you lied there. So when you say petersen claims that specifically marxists want to spread blah blah blah and that makes him a nazi supporter if not a nazi - it seems 99 percent likely you're full of it.

So lets see your proof. We'll go from there.  But i'm no longer interested in your opinion without proof, you lie far too much for it to be interesting.

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10 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

But that's the point. His theories weren't actually tried in the Soviet Union, China, East Germany, or any of these other countries. It was just fascism dressed up with socialist imagery.

this is the other lie that the left tries to perpetuate - "true communism has never been tried!"

It has. This is how it ends up, how it will ALWAYS end up, how it has to end up. It corrupts itself almost immediately.

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

this is the other lie that the left tries to perpetuate - "true communism has never been tried!"

It has. This is how it ends up, how it will ALWAYS end up, how it has to end up. It corrupts itself almost immediately.

Why do communists insist that real communism has never been tried? - Quora

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2 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Name some people who have been arrested in Canada for misgendering someone. Not for trespassing or whatever, but literally just because they misgendered someone.

Again, the bill prevents discrimination based on gender identity. Shepard got in trouble for being transphobic in a setting where transphobia is banned the same way racism is banned. However, she didn't get arrested. You're allowed to be transphobic, you just can't express transphobia in certain areas, usually on public property like a school. She also would have gotten in trouble for playing a video with sexism or religion-based hatred.

And by the way, it's the same in America. We don't have hate speech laws, but we're not allowed to discriminate or be racist/transphobic/sexist/ableist/ect in a public setting. We're also not allowed to discriminate based on gender identity.

The Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory is not just that Marxism is bad. It's the theory that Marxists are secretly using the media and academia to promote homosexuality, feminism, atheism, and trans identity in order to destroy western society. This is based on an earlier conspiracy theory, that was popular among Nazis, called "Cultural Bolshevism" in which the Jews are behind the conspiracy, whereas with Cultural Marxism it's just heavily implied.

So yeah, Peterson may not be a Nazi himself, but he's promoting a Nazi conspiracy theory that has led his audience to Nazism.

I wouldn't say "secretly". They are quite open about overthrowing the patriarchy and fascination with two dudes getting it on

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20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

this is the other lie that the left tries to perpetuate - "true communism has never been tried!"

It has. This is how it ends up, how it will ALWAYS end up, how it has to end up. It corrupts itself almost immediately.

Socialism is essentially two things.

  • Democratic control of the means of production.
  • Decommodification of essential services. 

Which country has attempted to have a society with those two things?

As for communism, that's an anarchic philosophy. Communism has been tried throughout history, but it's never been tried on a very large scale. The average commune has only had around a hundred or so people.

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20 hours ago, Contrarian said:

They were not following the REAL teachings of Marx.

Marx said the workers must control the means of production through democracy. Which country has tried this? East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and all the other countries people always mention did not have democracy.

If China is socialist just because it's in the name of the country, then China is also a republic.

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And look, he has followers even in 2023. Wake up to reality.

I'm not actually a Marxist, I just care about reality. I do think Marx and Engels were correct about material conditions, but I'm not a communist.

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18 hours ago, West said:

I wouldn't say "secretly". They are quite open about overthrowing the patriarchy and fascination with two dudes getting it on

Yes, but it's not all part of a plot by Jews or Marxists to destroy America. And if you think it is, then you are repeating a conspiracy theory based on a Nazi conspiracy theory.

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22 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes, but it's not all part of a plot by Jews or Marxists to destroy America. And if you think it is, then you are repeating a conspiracy theory based on a Nazi conspiracy theory.

Whatever it is it's vile and disgusting. 

And yes there are plenty of Marxists poisoning the minds of the gullible in universities

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21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The NY Post is fake news. Find a real source.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And of course plenty have been threatened - i told you about the Sheppard case.

Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm saying it's not illegal to misgender someone. It's also not illegal to refer to people with racial slurs. But if you do that, I can't promise you won't get yelled at.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is a blatant lie.  And the school got sued over it and lost. She didn't do anything wrong and the school authorities immediately acknowledged that when she went public  The president of the university herself appologized and said that should never have happened.

Remember what i've told you - if you have to lie to make a point you probably don't have a very good point.

What did I lie about? She got in trouble for playing a video that went against the school's TOS. She wasn't arrested, she isn't being oppressed by the state.

Y'all really don't know what freedom of speech is. Freedom of speech does not mean there are NO consequences for speech. It means that the government will not arrest you for saying things. When Putin has a journalist arrested for criticizing him, that's an actual violation of free speech. When you're kicked off a social media site for harassing trans people, that's NOT a violation of free speech.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sounds like you're just making bullshit up to be honest. And if anything the 'boshavists' were more of the gay haters than the nazi's.

Oh, the Nazis were completely wrong. Because yeah, the Bolshevists were homophobic. Joseph Stalin put gay people in the gulags. But according to the Cultural Bolshevism conspiracy theory that the Nazis spread, the Jews were spreading degeneracy throughout Europe because that leads to Bolshevism... somehow. Like most right-wing theories, it didn't make much sense.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nope - still calling bullshit there. Show me the interview where he says that it's specifically marxist to use the media to spread blah blah blah.  I will bet you can't.

Seriously? Peterson talks about "Cultural Marxism" all the time.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Your problem is that you have no credibility. For the things i know about in detail, i can see you're frequently blatantly falsifying the facts.

Lies. I'm right about everything.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So i know you lied there. So when you say petersen claims that specifically marxists want to spread blah blah blah and that makes him a nazi supporter if not a nazi - it seems 99 percent likely you're full of it.

If you have to strawman, then you're probably wrong.

Again, I don't think Peterson is a nazi. I think he's a retard who is unintentionally spreading nazism.

By the way, if you want a metric for how bad this has gotten, like five years ago nobody was talking about "Cultural Marxism." This was something only actual neo-nazis talked about online. But now, thanks to people like Peterson, mainstream Republicans like Ted Cruz are talking about it. The Republican party has fully embraced fascism.

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28 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Socialism is essentially two things.

Translation "whatever definition i feel like if it doesn't work"

Sorry kiddo, There's no point arguing that the sky is blue. Socialism has been tried and mostly failed and communism is an abject disaster. Socialism at least can survive for a little while, depending on HOW strict a  socialism it is

Communism has no redeeming qualities whatsoever But sociasm can work in limited fashion. The problem is it doesn't scale. A family is usually set up in a communist or socialist fashion - and families work. The Adults earn and control prodcution, the chidlren contribute as they can, everybody chips in and takes what they need .  From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs .

but - make that 5 families and things get problematic.  make it a country and things get far worse till it all falls apart.

Sorry - they've both been tried AND AT A LARGE SCALE as well as small and they both fail except in the smallest examples.

They're  not 'archaic - they're dysfunctional. The principles they were built on are utterly flawed and unusable.

which isn't to say you can't have a LITTLE of the underlying philosophy integreated into your more practical model.  But not much.

 

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29 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes, but it's not all part of a plot by Jews or Marxists to destroy America. And if you think it is, then you are repeating a conspiracy theory based on a Nazi conspiracy theory.

Nobody thinks it's the jews. Sorry that's a total red herring. IF anyone hates the jews it's  the marxists and the left these days.

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6 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

The NY Post is fake news. Find a real source.

ROFLMAO - well there's no point reading beyond this :)

The guy got arrested - you can claim he didn't if you can find a source that says that but he did. Sorry. If you disagree with the source then it is up to YOU to prove the source is wrong

So - once again you admit you're dishonest. You know it's true but try to dodge it by claiming the source is the problem ,NOT that the source printed something that wasn't true.

So you've exposed yourself to everyone as a liar.  All you're trying to do is browbeat and muzzle people who's opinions you don't like through lies.

Like a typical Facist.

 

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On 3/12/2023 at 5:58 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I can't see the post, but I am familiar with the case.  This is what I was telling Groot about, intellectual dishonesty.

The student was arrested for trespassing, not stating an opinion.

Technically true.  But couldn't go to class because they were suspended for their opinions on bathroom policy and gender they were apparently debating in class, comments the school apparently considered "bully", or harassment essentially.

An overreact by the school.  I don't agree with the student's views, but I don't think a student should be suspended for have politically incorrect social or political opinions.  This is akin to brainwashing.  Schools should NOT be enforcing such opinions of students.

The students who were offended had a right to be offended, but did not have a right to have their school admin protect them from being offended during a class debate.

Now of course the details are important, like the exact words being said and how they were said.  But the opinions themselves should not be grounds for "bullying",  which is so far what it sounds like happened.  He also is expressing traditionally Christian views in a Christian school board.

The student has been barred from attending school for the rest of the year.

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49 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Marx said the workers must control the means of production through democracy. Which country has tried this? East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and all the other countries people always mention did not have democracy.

If China is socialist just because it's in the name of the country, then China is also a republic.

I'm not actually a Marxist, I just care about reality. I do think Marx and Engels were correct about material conditions, but I'm not a communist.

"Through democracy"?  Can you quote Marx on this?  I do remember he wanted a "dictatorship of the proletariat", which is I suppose is subject to interpretation, unless we take that literally.

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