WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 9 hours ago, Rebound said: And I also agree that Trump is a losing candidate for the Republicans and a very, very toxic influence in politics. You come by that opinion fairly enough: you're told that exact thing every day. Did you ever try to rationalize any of it though? Did you ever ask yourself if Biden, Fetterman, Kamala Harris et al are really awesome leaders? Trudeau? Was there a war in Europe when Trump was POTUS, or did that only happen when Obama and Biden were president? Would the US have committed a terrorist attack if Trump was still president, or would he have just kept his foot down and said "Still no pipeline"? Was the US talking about the possibility of chemical warfare with Russia when Trump was POTUS? Was the US talking about the possibility of nuclear warfare with Russia when Trump was POTUS? Was Trump busy ignoring record-level inflation when he was president? Was the border Swiss cheese when Trump was POTUS? Were there 2M illegal immigrants a year? Or forget all that and just ask yourself this one question: "Was 2019 the pinnacle of western civilization to this point in time?" Methinks you have a dishonest reply coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, West said: Again not an opinion. It's fact It's NOT "fact" until you PROVE IT. You have NO credibility to justify believing your OPINION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 (edited) ⬆️ Trending via The IndependentAnger as Trump posts picture of himself wielding baseball bat next to Alvin Bragg’s (New York District Attorney) head. Is this who you want as your President? Edited March 24 by Contrarian edit design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 (edited) 8 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You come by that opinion fairly enough: you're told that exact thing every day. Did you ever try to rationalize any of it though? Did you ever ask yourself if Biden, Fetterman, Kamala Harris et al are really awesome leaders? Trudeau? Was there a war in Europe when Trump was POTUS, or did that only happen when Obama and Biden were president? Would the US have committed a terrorist attack if Trump was still president, or would he have just kept his foot down and said "Still no pipeline"? Was the US talking about the possibility of chemical warfare with Russia when Trump was POTUS? Was the US talking about the possibility of nuclear warfare with Russia when Trump was POTUS? Was Trump busy ignoring record-level inflation when he was president? Was the border Swiss cheese when Trump was POTUS? Were there 2M illegal immigrants a year? Or forget all that and just ask yourself this one question: "Was 2019 the pinnacle of western civilization to this point in time?" Methinks you have a dishonest reply coming... We had very different problems when Trump was President. However, it remains that Trump is a losing candidate for the Republicans. Edited March 24 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 5 hours ago, Contrarian said: ⬆️ Trending via The IndependentAnger as Trump posts picture of himself wielding baseball bat next to Alvin Bragg’s (New York District Attorney) head. Is this who you want as your President? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsapper Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 7 hours ago, Contrarian said: ⬆️ Trending via The IndependentAnger as Trump posts picture of himself wielding baseball bat next to Alvin Bragg’s (New York District Attorney) head. Is this who you want as your President? I think the answer will be yes from a lot of posters on here. I wouldn't mind so much, but if Bragg turned around Trump would drop the bat and wet himself. Telling. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 6 hours ago, Rebound said: We had very different problems when Trump was President. 1) the plandemic 2) riots that the Dems supported That's it. Aside from that there was a whole litany pf problems solved. Quote However, it remains that Trump is a losing candidate for the Republicans. Only because of the overwhelming level of lies from the Dems, MSM and FBI, and FBI crimes as well. Trump isn't actually toxic, he just exposes the toxicity of the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 1) the plandemic 2) riots that the Dems supported That's it. Aside from that there was a whole litany pf problems solved. Only because of the overwhelming level of lies from the Dems, MSM and FBI, and FBI crimes as well. Trump isn't actually toxic, he just exposes the toxicity of the left. I disagree. The deficit exploded: 25% of the entire National Debt was created during Trump’s presidency. But of course, it’s always perfectly fine for Republicans to spend like drunks. It’s what they do, then they claim the debt is the biggest crisis ever and that Democrats are to blame. “The Pandemic”: One million Americans dead. America was close to first place in death rate from Covid. Pathetic bungling because of his insane vanity Trump developed very hostile relationships with China, our NATO allies, Mexico and Canada. He had to bail out all our farmers with massive subsidies because his stupid tariffs (aka, “tax increases”) put an end to farm exports to China. And now China is Putin’s buddy. He got nowhere with North Korea. Oh, and he triggered a riot that resulted in several deaths and the evacuation of the US Capitol, leading to over 950 people charged with Federal crimes. Edited March 24 by Rebound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, Rebound said: I disagree. The deficit exploded: 25% of the entire National Debt was created during Trump’s presidency. But of course, it’s always perfectly fine for Republicans to spend like drunks. It’s what they do, then they claim the debt is the biggest crisis ever and that Democrats are to blame. Happened with Obama, it happened with Trudeau, and God help America by the time Biden's done. Quote “The Pandemic”: One million Americans dead. America was close to first place in death rate from Covid. Pathetic bungling because of his insane vanity FYI only about 4% of "covid deaths" are people who "died of covid". If you look at the avg life span of Americans/Canadians, and the avg age of covid deaths combined with the avg number of co-morbidities of the covid 'victims', you can plainly see that those people died pretty much when they were supposed to. 2/3 of them were over 80 and 96% of them had co-morbidities.... How much longer would those people have lived, statistically speaking, if they didn't have "COOOOOVIIIIIDDDDDD! AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"? Quote Trump developed very hostile relationships with China, our NATO allies, Mexico and Canada. OMG, stop with the propaganda alright? I'm not some credulous leftard that just commits BS from CNN's teleprompter to memory. Trump asked NATO members to pay their share of the freight. If people got pissy, that's their own fault. The angst that was widely reported by leftist MSM was just narrative, nothing more. Turkey might actually leave NATO now, all thanks to Biden. Quote And now China is Putin’s buddy. FYI China and Russia didn't have a military agreement until Biden caused the Ukraine/Russia war. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 13 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Happened with Obama, it happened with Trudeau, and God help America by the time Biden's done. FYI only about 4% of "covid deaths" are people who "died of covid". If you look at the avg life span of Americans/Canadians, and the avg age of covid deaths combined with the avg number of co-morbidities of the covid 'victims', you can plainly see that those people died pretty much when they were supposed to. 2/3 of them were over 80 and 96% of them had co-morbidities.... How much longer would those people have lived, statistically speaking, if they didn't have "COOOOOVIIIIIDDDDDD! AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"? OMG, stop with the propaganda alright? I'm not some credulous leftard that just commits BS from CNN's teleprompter to memory. Trump asked NATO members to pay their share of the freight. If people got pissy, that's their own fault. The angst that was widely reported by leftist MSM was just narrative, nothing more. Turkey might actually leave NATO now, all thanks to Biden. FYI China and Russia didn't have a military agreement until Biden caused the Ukraine/Russia war. No, let me stop you right there on your first lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/23/2023 at 12:26 PM, Contrarian said: Not if your side of the aisle starts with California MSNBC tactics, if they go that route and prosecutors like this showing hesitation, Trump can be turned into a winning candidate by the fear of him. This payment to an actress is a joke. If that DA thinks this is the way to stop Trump, is a mistake, this can turn into a backfire and a "deplorable" moment is my pessimistic view. Trending via NewsWeek Republican warnings that an indictment will help Trump's 2024 odds appear to be coming true, as polls have shown his support increasing compared to his closest Republican rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Recent study shows that election denial helps Republicans in their primary but hurts them MORE in the general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 5 hours ago, Rebound said: No, let me stop you right there on your first lie. Let me stop you right there to illustrate to you that the columns in 2009 and 2010 are Obama's, and look how big they are compared to the ones to the left of them.... Joe Biden's debt is catastrophic. Bidenflation is a nightmare for Americans. The soaring interest rates are a deadly threat to Americans. 2023 is a hellish year compared to 2019. Hellish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: Recent study shows that election denial helps Republicans in their primary but hurts them MORE in the general election. Recent study says if MSNBC does not stop with their attack on DeSantis, MAGA will go in the final and anything can happen. So better with the reasonable republicans, than MAGA, no? Of course not, your e-mail was already sent with the talking points, GIVE SAFE PASSAGE TO MAGA against JOE, attack DeSantis. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Let me stop you right there to illustrate to you that the columns in 2009 and 2010 are Obama's, and look how big they are compared to the ones to the left of them.... Joe Biden's debt is catastrophic. Bidenflation is a nightmare for Americans. The soaring interest rates are a deadly threat to Americans. 2023 is a hellish year compared to 2019. Hellish. Yes, in 2008, under Bush’s watch, the entire American banking system collapsed and TARP was passed to bail them out WHILE BUSH WAS STILL IN OFFICE. Since you suck at numbers: Bush signed the budget in 2008, his last year, which went into effect for 2009. Der…. What’s more, when Bush’s irresponsible, unfunded tax cuts expired during the Obama years, the Republicans shut down the entire federal government in order to keep those tax cuts in place for the wealthiest 1% of Americans. So… who’s tax cut? Bush’s. Whose 2009 deficit? Bush’s. Who started the two wars? Bush. Who kept the tax cuts in place? Republicans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 13 minutes ago, Rebound said: Yes, in 2008, under Bush’s watch, the entire American banking system collapsed and TARP was passed to bail them out WHILE BUSH WAS STILL IN OFFICE. Since you suck at numbers: Bush signed the budget in 2008, his last year, which went into effect for 2009. Der…. What’s more, when Bush’s irresponsible, unfunded tax cuts expired during the Obama years, the Republicans shut down the entire federal government in order to keep those tax cuts in place for the wealthiest 1% of Americans. So… who’s tax cut? Bush’s. Whose 2009 deficit? Bush’s. Who started the two wars? Bush. Who kept the tax cuts in place? Republicans. The debt just keeps going up no matter who is in office. That's how politics works. No one gets elected by saying "I'm not gonna spend a trillion dollars on you." http://organictalks.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/016_us_national_debt_960.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) @Rebound Bush was an idjit, and I don't know many conservatives who don't admit to that. Why can't leftists admit that Biden is just as bad or possibly worse? We've only been subjected to 2 years and 2 months of Biden and I don't know how much more we can take. The fact remains that life in 2019 was pretty juicy. Arguably the best ever year for Americans. Unemployment was low, take-home earnings were up for everyone, terrorism was taking it to the chin, islamic state was obliterated, America was standing up to Russia, there were no wars in Europe... 2023 is a shitshow. Immigration. Inflation. Interest rates. Crime. Homelessness. A major war in Europe. NATO members openly talking about leaving. The POTUS openly talking about the possibility of chemical/nuclear warfare. An American terrorist attack on European infrastructure. And despite all that, the government's focus is on paving the way for drag queens to talk in schools and for men to use the girls' bathroom. Are you kidding right now Rebound? Do you really think that 'Merica is on track right now? Edited March 25 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsapper Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 The human skid mark rants again: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110076529058362533 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 22 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The debt just keeps going up no matter who is in office. That's how politics works. No one gets elected by saying "I'm not gonna spend a trillion dollars on you." http://organictalks.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/016_us_national_debt_960.jpg You are truly the dumbest guy here. Look again at where the curve went flat when Clinton was President. Oooooh did you guys hate Clinton. You hated him like mad. Yet, he balanced the budget. You aren’t accounting for the rate of increase. Rates are highest under GOP presidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, Rebound said: truly the dumbest guy here. Yes, you are. Quote Look again at where the curve went flat when Clinton was President. Oooooh did you guys hate Clinton. I never hated Bill at all. I actually thought he was a good president and I wasn't at all in favour of him being impeached over an affair. It's incredibly stupid that people would consider rocking the foundations of the most powerful nation on earth just because an old man banged a young girl. Kings, emperors, tsars, sultans, pharaohs, etc have done that since the beginning of recorded history. It's normal. I wasn't aware of Biden's rape accusation until Hillary was running though. And Hillary, I detest. Her accusations against Bill's accusers were vile and her Benghazi lies were blatant and callous. She's a snake who eats other snakes in the DNC. Quote Rates are highest under GOP presidents. No one has ever wasted money like Biduh. At least not in the US: Trudeau is just as bad, but on a smaller 'budget'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Most rational folks (internet forum poster not being one of them) stop buying into a claim when it does not happen over and over again. May 1 - Trump will face charges May 5 - Trump will face charges June 1 - Has not happened yet but it will June 20 - You just wait.. it will happen. and so on.... If he ever is charged.. fine. If not, oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 28 Author Report Share Posted March 28 (edited) ⬆️ Trending via Politico Judge says Pence must testify to Jan. 6 grand jury A federal judge presiding over the special counsel investigation into Donald Trump’s attempt to subvert the 2020 election has largely rejected an effort by the ex-president to assert executive privilege over the testimony of his former vice president, Mike Pence, according to a person familiar with the ruling. Edited March 28 by Contrarian edit design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Looks like the lunatic partisan DA has postponed the grand jury a month. Sad individual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, West said: DA has I don't think he will be charged anymore, probably someone told the prosecutor if he proceeds with this, it might end up helping your MAGA group. Edited March 29 by Contrarian edit design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, Contrarian said: I don't think he will be charged anymore, probably someone told the prosecutor if he proceeds with this, it might end up helping your MAGA group. Or he's a lefty lunatic who was trying to abuse the justice system to settle political vandetta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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